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Ladystark's picture

This is two school vents in one- sorry- but thanks if you read it.

Im feeling irritated with my ex- he is not giving me school information, he is not informing me on conferences.

I know what i have to do document, document, then court. God its so slow though.

I just hate this 2 house hold crap. School is lazy because they deal with usually one family member, not 2.

In this day and age with split families i feel the schools should be more proactive.

My sons school sends everything home thursdays!!! I put in our agreement id get him fridays from school because everywhere sends things home FRIDAYS, except this effing county....ughhh...so i get nothing that way. Ive writen the teachers every year, but if i slack I GET NOTHING. He is in 3rd grade- why is there nothing the school can do to inform the new teacher- hey mom wants information send things home friday!!!

Im just so frustrated.

So now new teacher, new school year of me: one- writing and documenting to ex i want info, and writing to new teacher. I dont want to be a B****, but i guess i have to. Ive tried nice, but this might be the year i have to take him to court.

I gave him physical custody- not FULL! Im here, and i want to know what my kids doing.

I vented a little to my mother, about not getting info on fieldtrips, not being able to do things in his classroom, and she was like well you have another one you get to do all that with! Thanks mom does not help, because id like to go on a fieldtrip with HIM.

My mom had three daughters within a year of each other, so if she missed one activity no biggie, she would be at the school for another kid.

His school is almost 2hrs from me, so i have to know about things in advance. When i worked it out to go early on a friday for his lunch time, he was so excited. Id like to see that face during a classroom party..ya know...

I can see my sons grades- this is after weeks of the school making sure i could have access- and me doing reminder calls. I also got informed of a reminder app. Great, so i dont get flyer, but the day before a fieldtrip ill get- reminder pack a lunch...awesome!! I still cant go but atleast i know something is happening!!

My stepsons adhd is driving me crazy!! Im trying to be positive to him. Im reading all these adhd sites, he is driving me bananas... im not sure i can stay positive to him much longer.

He just is all over the place, and since im trying hard to be nice and positive, its like i feel he takes advantage...he talks and talks. Ive been giving him till about 4-430pm to defunk from school, be positive, before i get direct to him.

His phone stays downstairs till 530, but i feel he tries to find ways, to not go in his room and start his hw!!!

He talk and talks, asks me a milllion questions, if that fails, he starts using his little sister!

Like its great he is showing her attention just wrong time!!

God and this science fair bullcrap..omg...the next worksheet he has to fill out i know im going to end up yelling at him!!

Last week ALL HE HAD TO DO was write down a few questions, then find sources to answer these questions...omg...our computer is down in basement, he would go down do one question, come up to me ask is this ok, talk and talk, then Play with little sister- then i nicely directed him back down, not even 5 mintues i hear him coming back up!!! Once it hit 6pm, i told him do not come back up till your done. With a tone...

God...im not going to make it all year being nice!!

Ive been looking up adhdsupport groups, cause maybe if dh goes with me, he can hear other parents talk about meds!!
Hear its not all bad putting kids on meds. There is no groups near us, so thats a bummer.

Anyway thats where im at, having split family struggles.

Im dealing with ss, because dh has been coming home about 630-7, its a physical job, so he eats takes a shower passes out. This job will be over in 2 weeks thank god. Then he will have a small break and will be working closer to home.

Then he can deal with ss.

Glad i can vent, im glad you ladies are here, because i just do not have much support. Noone else gets it.

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Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

If the school won’t change then you need to be proactive. There is no reason you can’t request the information when you pick them up. Sure it means taking a few extra steps to go speak to the teacher but they should be able to provide you with that information easy. SO does this with the preschooler. As for the 2nd grader, the school posts a calendar of events online. I understand small schools might not do this. Growing up mine had a board with this sort of information near the front.

You get my point. You have to take it on yourself to get the information since it won’t be handed to you. I know it sucks but you can cry about it or figure it out.

As for step son. Make it through these two weeks then put it on DH. He should be supporting you with the children. During the summer we get the kids for 6 weeks. My partner works nights. I tried my best to help him out but there were times I told him “tough sh*t, it’s your turn.” He’s the one who chose the night job. It’s not my job to pick up all the slack. Make sure DH doesn’t expect you to. It’s not just that it’s his kid it’s that you are a team. Even if the child was both of yours you should still work together.

Ladystark's picture

Ive been signing up for everything i can, but school parties, fieldtrips, they usually send flyers home.

Im trying to be proactive.

And thanks for the "you can cry about it" dig.

Im frustrated.

This is out of my comfort zone im not a forceful person...

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

It was not meant to be a dig. Simply a statement of fact.

The flyers shouldn't be the only means of being informed. Like I said many schools still have some sort of physical calendar in the building and stopping by the classroom for a quick "hey how are things going, is there anything I should know" shouldn't be an issue.

I understand not being forceful but your going to need to be if this is important to you. You have every right to this information.

On top of this you can talk to your child. As you said he's in 3rd grade. He should be more than capable of informing you of what's going on. Sure he may not know the exact details but it gives you enough to know you should make a phone call on Monday to ask.

All of these event's are normally planned out weeks / months in advance. The flyers are just reminders. You can do this.

Ladystark's picture

Sorry his pbone stays down stairs till 530, so 430-530, is hw, organizing, whatever- its an hour, but he talks or effs around, then his pbone has to stay downstairs till 630 sometimes 7, because he wont finish his hw.

Yesterday i thought he was in his room working on hw, i went to check on him, ugh no he was in the bathroom from 350 till 440ish!!! Then he strolls out of there at 5pm, comes down for a drink, farts around, then finally starts hw!!

I did not "remind" him about phone, like i normally do so he had his phone while going potty- ooops he says...yeah right...

I do not understand how these adhd articles talk about praise, be positive, praise some more!!

I cant!! Im trying, but this is not going to last long... when i was "mean" chores got done, hw got done...this being nice crap, i feel he is even spacer, i had to ask him 5 times to do the trash last week!! 5 times!! But he was in a great mood doing trash so is that the plus???

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

Praise and positive is fine that doesn't mean you can't be firm. Nor does firm = mean.

Phone shouldn't be accessible to him till homework is done. Since it's been shown that he can't handle that on his own he should have to show you the work is done and then you give him the phone. I'd go as far as him not getting it for the night if he doesn't get homework done by X time or with less than X amounts of off task behavior such as playing with little sibling.

ADHD needs more structure not just happy.

twoviewpoints's picture

What the child needs is something his SM should not be having to do.

If the father is not going to be home when this kid gets home from school and be Daddy On The Spot, he needs to figure out what he can do to help his son. Coming home at seven, showering and passing out isn't it. Nor is it working. You can sit here all evening and tell Lady what you think SHE needs to do, but truth is none of it is her job, her responsibility nor is it a simple matter of 'helping Dad out'.

Dad doesn't want to take the ADHD seriously, but he doesn't want to be home and deal with it himself, and when he is home, he wants it just to be all done for him.

What Lady needs to do is tell her DH she is no longer going to do anything , including physically taking care of his son, until the father takes the kid in, has him eval'd and follows through with a game plan.

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

If you'll read my post above I did state that it should be placed on DH. Since DH is not doing his part to assist then it goes on him to do it all. Either he works as a team which means supporting her AND doing his share or she should stop taking care of it and yes it all goes on him.

OP has enabled her DH to do this to this point. It's time to make demands. If OP want's to put it all on him then she is well within her rights and I wouldn't blame her at all.

My point here was to counter the idea that the kid needed "praise, be positive, praise some more!!" To help with his ADHD as it seems to have led to the child having no expectations / consequences. It's to give OP advice if she intends to keep helping with SS or ever works with any other child with ADHD.

strugglingSM's picture

In our case, some teachers have been really helpful about informing both parents and others just haven't.

Last year, one teacher made sure that DH knew about all school related meetings, including an IEP meeting that BM scheduled and then forgot to go to, so DH was the only parent there. The other teacher wouldn't even reply to DH's emails, even though she always responded to BM - because when BM wanted to look like MOTY, she would copy DH on her emails, so he saw the replies. In most of his emails, he was asking simple questions, but the teacher would not reply. Then DH asked to have a separate conference and that teacher then scheduled BM's conference at the same time. At the end of the year, that SS somehow got an award (not sure how because he's the laziest student ever). BM was notified weeks in advance by SS's teacher (who had met DH several times and knew that BM and DH were divorced). DH got an email from the principal reminding him of the award ceremony, sent at 11pm on the night before the ceremony, so he read it while he was at work, 90 minutes away from the school. He was so angry about that last one, especially when BM sent a group text to her family and DH's family about how proud she was of SS for getting the award. She included DH on that group text, but god forbid she should tell him about the ceremony in advance.

Regarding the ADHD, that's a tough one. Has your SS seen a counselor / behavioral coach? I'm not sure how old he is, but he seems like maybe he could benefit from some behavioral therapy or behavioral incentives to start to manage his own behavior.

Ladystark's picture

Some teachers are ok, others make you work, last years teacher i had to cc principal on everything!!

Kirby's picture

I'm sorry, that sucks :(. He should be making sure you get copies of everything. Our school had a parent website it doesn't have all the info but some info... maybe yours does? I make sure BM had access to copies of everything even if I think it's unimportant. She's been told now multiple times to check his backpack and take any and all forms, we keep our copies and only send her hers. She never does. I only try to send them twice then when it's returned crumpled and untouched I toss it.
I've tried different folders. I've tried DH handing them to her physically (which isn't as consistent cuz they don't always see each other) she even put forms he handed to her physically in his backpack and sent them back to us. She asked me if he had school on Columbus day when I got him from her last weekend. She asked me. I made sure she got a school schedule, it's also online. How can she gripe about me being involved in his life and how she's such a great mom and then ask me what days he has off. It's unbelievable. I said no, she said really? Its a holiday. I said i know, he doesnt have it off, and if you paid any attention to his life or the things we both try to get you to participate in you would know!!!! I didn't say that....

I hope this teacher and school find a way to work with you and all future teachers too. When people are really trying to do the right thing it's nice when it works out.

Ladystark's picture

I wish you were my ex!

It be nice to not have to go through the court system.

I just feel like i get this brickwall when custody shows its face. Its annoying...im not a crap mom, i do not do drugs.

I just got pregnant at the wrong time! I was all set to fight my ex in court, but i had complications, had to go on bedrest...then they(my ex and his mother) hit me with emergency custody- claiming i physically abused my son!! Still do not forgive that dirty-ness... judge threw it out as there are no other claims or evidence...and i stressed out blood pressure through the roof..i knew, anything i did if i won they would be calling cps on me!(emergency custody was filed by them, they blindsided their own lawyer!)

So i gave up physical custody... and had a healthy 1pound 8oz preemie, that may not have made it if i went through a court battle.

Either way i lose...

Im sure the teachers wonder how messed up i am to not fight for my son..it sucks..

This was last year:

My son has some social problems, he does not have alot of friends, the counsler i talked to said there was a group that might be good for him.

I said send me the forms, it sounds good, i told her to send them friday. Teacher got involved or something, i got no forms, councelor gives me run around, when i call back the nextweek.

Im in the carline- teacher comes to my car- says "since dad has more custody, we are going with dad, if he signs he will be in group nextweek. Have nice weekend"

Im stunned.

To say that infront of my kid!!

Who decided dad has MORE custody? There could have been a meeting.

Ugh so angry.

This year im not being a doormat.

Acratopotes's picture

What about you call DS Thursday evenings and ask him what's going on? Or maybe your Ex.... sometimes men do not worry about these things like woman do lol.

But I will march right into his school and kick up some dust, they will send me all the information via email lol...

MoominMama's picture

This is interesting. We kind of had the other side of the story because BM hardly ever made any effort with regard to the school or to school conferences etc BUT she would claim that we didn't keep her informed. School would send her copy of correspondance home to us and she expected DH to drive over and deliver this to her if it happened in the week or on a friday when she didnt have the skids. She would then complain that he hadn't done it that evening that he had received it - for example if he left it a couple of days until the friday evening that they went to hers. Always conflict. So, he told the school that they needed to interact with her directly and send the letters to her - gave her address. He told BM that she was now responsible for her own contact with the school. She was perfectly able to use a telephone, send an email etc. Why should DH have to be her secretary? and so that is how it went, BM was just as sour ofc but who cares? She attended 2 out of 40 school conferences over the years. Always some excuse. It was just all a way of getting at us and her feeling in control.

Now i'm not suggesting you are doing that OP but I am saying that you are entitled and capable of having whatever contact you want with the school, but it seems you are having trouble getting them to comply. Is there a system where you can complain about this? Can you persuade your ex to ask that they inform you too?

Ladystark's picture

I dont know, i asked a teacher friend thats in my county, and she said document, save letters, then cc principal. Which im about to do soon, if i have a few more weeks of receiving nothing on fridays.

She said she thinks the teachers have become friendly with grandma so they probably lean on her, but your mom so if you want to know something they legally have to tell me. But they sure act like they dont have to do anything.

Dh said we should find a lawyer in my sons county and figure out what we can do, because i might seriously need a lawyer if this school keeps effing around.

Its just so irritating

As far as i know my ex does nothing, its his mother who takes care of school. She is the one that gets everything, but on paper its my ex i have to pull into court...but really grandma is who i should be fighting...if she was not around my ex would not even be in my sons life, except maybe occasional pop ups...but he is 42 living in mommys basement... ugh ...and gets to be big brother to his kid.

But ya know court. If it aint broke no need to fix it!

I just keep documenting... and hopfully we find a good family lawyer this year.

Im just glad i can finally see grades, they will not show me his report card for anything. So now atleast i can atleast keep up with that.

Its just i dont know what i can and cant do. Can i receive a report card too? If i ask a teacher something is it ok if she shares it with grandma?

Last year there was an incident with my son, out of anger he told the kid stop or ill kill you, i found out from my son days later. I asked to be informed too, if anything else happens- but i wont hold my breath for anyone to call me!

twoviewpoints's picture

My school district has not issued 'paper' report cards in a number of years now. It's all online. Daily grades, quarterly grades, semester grades. If a parent were to ask for a report card, all they would receive is a small print out of the online report card.

Most class involvement opportunities are done through sign-up sheets at both walk-in registration day and the open house evening (if not enough volunteers already signed up). This covers everything from class parties for usual holidays, school parties/events sponsored by the PTA and on open house evening the sign sheets in individual classrooms are for volunteer activities such as coming to class to read to students or a craft project on art days.

It is the occasional field trip announcements that do come throughout the year. Many of those are limited volunteer chaperons due to busing and budget limitations. It's usually k-1st grade, here, that allow one 'family member' per student. After that it's usually one adult per x amount of students (depends on field trip and the need).

Someone above mentioned your son being allowed to call you when he has something in his book bag. That makes sense to me, unless your ex MIL is restricting the child's phone communications. Here, we have the ability to email message with the different teachers and various staff through our online teacher's ease program...and it does document the communication. Most whole school announcements go out via the main office as a one click out to all parents signed up for the teacher's ease system. This would also include notice of parent/teacher conferences. Here they are held twice a year and the notice informs when the period is set and asks that parent call and schedule a time from a pre-set schedule of openings. Call quickly as the preferred times go fast.

When an individual student is having behavioral issues , meetings are usually scheduled for parent to come into office and meet with both teacher and principal. If your ex has whole residential custody for school time, it is your ex who would be requested to attend the meeting as in the school's eye and legal obligation it would be your ex they must communicate with as to any disciplinary and action plan. Your 'rights' are to the records, not necessarily the build up to the making of the record.

Ladystark's picture

We still get paper report cards for elementary school...middle school no...im sure they will be phasing out the paper report card soon.

I have not seen or heard of another way to get field trip info.

Ss is in middle school and he still gets paper permission slips...nothing through email, and only the band- strings fieldtrips are on the county calendar. So thats nice if you have a heads up on trips.

Ill ask the teacher if there is another way to be informed on trips.

I sign up for everything i can, i check the school website often, but it only tells you so much. I mean the schools twitter account last tweet is about back to school night from sept! Halloween is coming and his school does a trunk or treat, where is that tweet?? Shouldnt they be blasting upcoming oct events by now?

Yes some of its me being on top of stuff, but i can only do so much...if i was closer, god id be there a bunch..lol