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zerostepdrama's picture

DH recently purchased a motorcycle. It's a "Beginner" meaning it's not the most visually appealing motorcycle but it works. He didn't want to put a lot of money into a bike until he gets used to riding and feels comfortable, etc.

He is in the process of getting his full license.

He has taken me for a couple of rides. I felt comfortable riding with him in that I know he knows what he is doing. I worry more so about other people. I read online top motorcycle accidents are from alcohol and other cars.

I am just curious as to other people's experiences on motorcycles as a passenger and as a driver (though I won't be driving one ever).

I know a lot of the obvious stuff- wear a helmet, don't drink and drive, etc but what is some other good to know stuff.

I like riding. But I'm a pretty cautious person and being on a motorcycle is pretty adventurous for me because I know the risk of what can happen in an accident.

So if there is extra stuff to know, I would love to know.

Thanks!

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fakemommy's picture

You really shouldn't be on with him until he has his full license and has more experience. Other drivers are the main cause of accidents, but experience helps you know how to react. It is harder to react with a passenger, especially if the passenger isn't an experienced passenger.

Helmet and jacket are a must. Long pants and closed-toe shoes. The type of bike, cruiser, crotch rocket, etc makes a huge difference in how to be a passenger. Mainly you need to be able to predict how the driver is going to react to situations, you need to pay just as much attention as the driver so you can brace yourself for the reaction. You have to stay behind the driver and develop hand signals for certain reactions. I know if my DH taps my leg, I need to hold on tight. There are also blue tooth headsets you can install on your helmet to be able to communicate while riding. Also NEVER ride together during an argument. Seriously, being in sync is very important.

zerostepdrama's picture

Definitely agree with the first sentence.

He is getting his endorsement this weekend and will have his full license. He does have experience riding bikes but not a lot.

He has a Honda Shadow right now.

Any recommendations on a good helmet? He has one and I have been borrowing a friends but need my own.

The two times I have rode with him, once was in the neighborhood and once we went out pretty early on a weekend morning and there weren't a lot of cars and I felt a lot safer. We went to breakfast and then rode on some country roads. By the time we got back to the city, it was busier and I was a little nervous because of the other cars.

fakemommy's picture

A Honda Shadow is going to require you pay more attention then a cruiser where you have a full seat and back rest, but less than a crotch rocket.

I recommend riding in packs for a little while. It is safer, especially for an inexperienced rider. Other drivers will notice 4-6 bikes a lot more than they will notice 1.

Don't ride again until you have your own helmet. It is so important that it fits you correctly. Even if your friend's helmet is your size, the pads could be worn to fit their face and not actually fit you properly. I would never ride in anything other than a full faced helmet. Don't not wear a brain bucket, for real. My husband has a Shoei, I have a Scorpion. Both have served us well, are comfortable and ventilated fine. Any DOT approved helmet is fine, but the fit and ventilation changes with brands, so try on several brands. You want a snug snug fit to where your forehead moves when you rock the helmet up and down. If you drop the helmet on cement and there is external damage, there could be internal damage and you need a new helmet. If you have a minor accident and your helmet hits the ground, you need a new helmet. Don't buy one used.

Also, remind DH that gravel is often found on back roads and gravel is a motorcyclist's worst enemy.

Remember it isn't IF you have an accident, it is WHEN.

zerostepdrama's picture

Your last sentence freaked me out...

The passenger seat does have a bike. I wouldn't want to ride if one didn't. It makes me feel more comfortable. I couldn't imagine being on a crotch rocket.

Thanks for all the information about the helmet. It will be money well invested for sure.

fakemommy's picture

That is the motto for seasoned riders. Luckily, our accident was being backed into in a parking lot. DH has been in worse, but not overly terrible accidents. Our friend lost control on gravel at a stop sign and lost an arm.

We ride crotch rockets, though not so much anymore because who has the time. I enjoyed it, but I'm kind of moving past it.

SMto2's picture

You obviously have a lot of great recommendations. I also feel like it's not "if" but "when" you have an accident when it comes to motorcycles, but my DH was extremely lucky in that he was never involved in an accident in the 10 years he rode. However, he had so very little time to ride (due to SSs' visitation EOW, busy law practice and our home life) and hardly put any miles at all on his bikes, that probably reduced the odds. He did enjoy it what little time he rode, and I know he misses it, but I'm so thankful he doesn't ride anymore.

zerostepdrama's picture

I feel like it's the thrill of a roller coaster. Like I don't love roller coasters, but I'll do them and when I am on them they are fun and then when I am off I am grateful I survived. This is how I feel about riding with DH. Excited but happy when its over.

Exjuliemccoy's picture

Also, cheaper helmets are often heavier. Invest the extra money in a high-quality, lighter one. After a few hours of riding, a heavy helmet can be uncomfortable.

I know you're a practical, sensible person, so please don't be offended if I suggest that you also review you and your DH's life, auto, and health insurance policies. The simple fact is you can do everything right and still end up injured or dead.

zerostepdrama's picture

Not offended at all.

I don't go into anything without over thinking every possible scenario of what can happen.

It would be a good time to review everything anyways.

Just J's picture

DH and I used to have a Honda Shadow, right when we first got married. Man I loved that bike! He used it to commute to work but we'd go riding on weekends. Then I got pregnant and he got a job closer to home so it hardly got used at all and we eventually sold it. That was a sad day.

You have to learn to be a passenger as much as your DH needs to learn to drive. You need to lean with him, which you'll get the hang of. I've been riding on the back of motorcycles since high school so it's easy for me now. I used to ride on crotch rockets but now they scare me, I'd much rather ride on a touring bike like the Shadow. When SS first got a bike, a Kawasaki Ninja, we went for a ride, and I was definitely not comfortable like I was in my younger years.

DH and I want to get a Harley in a few years and I can't wait!

Tuff Noogies's picture

my grandmother died on her harley. hit head on by a drunk driver when dad was 16. it took him over 25 years to get back on a bike. he started out with a kawasaki vulcan when i was a mid-teen - i was his riding buddy, as mom physically couldnt handle much riding. then he upgraded to a road king which was a LOT of fun! but i trusted him fully, knowing that he would do everything in his power to keep safe.

once i almost got thrown off the back, going 70 on an interstate next to a semi. scariest moment of my life - the back tire hit a pebble, and i was 100 pounds soaking wet. i ended up landing on top of the seat-back.

FIL sold his intruder to dh a few years back - we had a lot of fun on that a few times, but due to getting the kids more and more (then permanently) we rarely went for a ride. then strangely enough, we both started to get an ominous feeling about riding, and he's not ridden it since. then after his wreck two years ago, and his shoulder last year, i'm sure it's no surprise that it's stored until we get ready to sell it. sadly i doubt he'll ever be able to ride again.

but i love love love being on the back of a bike. the wind, the rumble of the engine, the different smells and temperatures, the relaxing sway around curves... *sigh*

zerostepdrama's picture

Sorry to hear about your grandma. I have an aunt who passed away. She just learned to drive and took the curve wrong and died Sad

When we've been riding it has been fun. Freeing. Definitely different experience.

Tuff Noogies's picture

STAY OFF THE INTERSTATES. and leather up.

i miss my days of being the 'passenger'!!!

zerostepdrama's picture

I am very sorry about your brother.

One of my aunts wrecked her bike and died. So I am very cautious and want to make sure that I know as much as possible. I know that anything can happen, no matter how long you have been riding.

And I love bikers! We have a lot of friends that are bikers.

fakemommy's picture

So you have people saying lean, and some saying don't lean. What it really is, is pick a spot to line up with on DH. Like, your shoulder will stay in line with 4 inches from the edge of his shoulder, or something like that and keep that position. That way you aren't leaning on your own, but with DH and the bike. You very much treat it like a dance and follow his lead.

zerostepdrama's picture

I just lean back into the seat and just go with it. I have always been confused about the lean or don't lean. So I just lay into the back of the seat and just follow the flow of the bike. Not sure if that is right or not?

fakemommy's picture

Sounds right to me! Basically, you don't want DH to have to fight with the bike against you to get it where he wants it to go. You don't really lean or not lean, you just follow by staying loose and not over thinking it. Some girls (sorry it is usually girls) do try to lean over with the bike and cause major issues if not accidents.

Tuff Noogies's picture

my experience is BOTH! kinda like you have a big ol' hinge in your midsection - lean with your lower body, and try to keep upper body fairly upright. the driver will have to lean due to having hands firmly on the handlebars, but i was always able to maintain proper center of gravity keeping my shoulders level but not pulling against the bike w/ my hips/legs. but again, that's just my own personal experience.

bearcub25's picture

I think it is easier to let your hips go with the bike but keep your upper body more stiff so you don't lean too much.

I don't like interstate travel on our smaller Harley, but if you will be on interstates more, get a helmet with a full face for protection from gravel or debris.

BSgoinon's picture

DH only rides familiar roads when I am riding. It just makes me feel more at ease when I know what is coming in my surroundings. I always leather up, even when it is hot, and DH is a very defensive driver. I trust that.

Still anything can happen, no matter the precautions you take. But that is true in a car as well.

Keep your wheel on the ground, Ride Safe.

SMto2's picture

My DH had motorcyles for about 10 years. He got his motorcycle license at about age 40 after zero experience riding. That was 12 years ago, when we were in the midst of EOW visitation with the 2 SSs and trying to keep up with work and home, plus our own DS, so I thought it was NUTS that would want to take up such an expensive hobby that only 2 people could do at a time, especially given what little free time he had. He did take a motorcycle safety course, which he felt was EXTREMELY helpful in learning to anticipate situations and perform defensive driving maneuvers, since most motorcycle accidents that are not alcohol related are due to actions of other drivers. So, I'd definitely recommend that. Also, he ALWAYS wore a helmet, jackets with Kevlar and closed toe shoes.

I rode with him a few times, but not much and not for very long because: 1) we had no babysitter for our DS, so I couldn't go; and 2) although I'm fairly small in stature, his bikes were always on the small to medium side with seats that made my buns go numb after about 15 minutes! We did go on one weekend motorcycle trip about 3 hours away. I also hated "helmet head," not being able to take much by way of personal items for overnight and not being able to buy anything we saw at a quaint shop because there was no way to transport it. (Perhaps we needed a trailer! lol.)

My DH gets easily distracted while driving a vehicle (he says that only happens when I'm with him! lol.) and I became increasingly concerned that something was going to happen to him on his motorcycle, since it just takes a moment of distraction to result in disaster. Then my extremely healthy, vibrant best friend died suddenly (of a heart attack) at age 44, and I really freaked out worrying every time he rode. I did NOT want to be left a single parent to our then 2 DSs. So, I convinced him to trade his motorcycle on a gorgeous Jaguar convertible so we could take it on trips with room for purchases, put up the top in the rain, have more steel around us generally, etc, etc. My DH ended up hating it, and he traded it and now doesn't have a "toy" vehicle. While I think he'd like another motorcycle, I'm sure he won't get one, and I know he's much safer not being on one. I cringe every time I hear of someone else being killed senselessly on them. I truly think anytime someone rides and survives, they have beaten the odds. I'm sorry I don't have a more "positive" motorcycle story to tell, but they simply scare me to death, and I know I'll never get on one again. Hopefully, by taking a safety course, practicing defensive driving and wearing the right apparel, your guy can minimize the risk.

zerostepdrama's picture

He's taking the riding course this weekend. It makes me feel soooooo much better.

The couple of times I have rode on it, I'm like oh that was fun and then I'm like thank you for letting us make it home safe. Same when he goes riding. I'm anxious until he gets home.

He drives a lot for work, is a good defensive driver. I think he is extra cautious now. I just hope in time he doesn't get lax on the safety. No reason to think that but just a concern.

AJanie's picture

DH rides. When we were younger I'd hop on the back of his crotch rocket in short shorts and flip flops and head to the beach. Young and reckless. Now I ride once in awhile.

Always wear long pants and good shoes. Probably avoid interstates until he is a more seasoned rider. I find when I am relaxed and just let my body lean with his when we turn I have a better experience.

Riding is a lot of fun. Enjoy.

Cover1W's picture

I rode a motorcycle for 10 years or so. Actually I owned two.
I really loved it when I did it, used to go on long, long touring rides.

1) Glad he's taking the course. This is number one priority.

2) Practice, practice, practice. Ride during low traffic times, avoid mornings/evenings/nights when visibility is low for other vehicle drivers. Ride for a short time. Riding is extremely physically and mentally demanding so build up to it.

3) No way should your ride "up" until he has at least, at least, a year's experience, takes the advanced safety riding course and he knows how to handle a bike confidently. Is he a good, rational, calm driver? Then he may be a good rider.

4) Helmet (full face - does he want to land on his chin and rip it off? I'm serious.), gloves, moto jacket, moto boots, thick jeans for local rides (35 mph and less), and moto jeans or other protection for longer rides and faster speeds.
I've been down. At less than 35 mph. It HURT. And if I hadn't had my helmet I would have likely been killed. It happens fast. I had my gloves, boots, jacket and thick jeans on. My knee was rashed (but my jeans survived!) I sprained some fingers, and if I hadn't had my jacket on I likely would have had a dislocated shoulder but the jacket kept things in place and also protected my collarbone.
One of my friends is a nurse and she told me horror stories about people riding with very little body protection and low speed crashes.

5) Everyone else on the road is stupid and the rider is invisible. He needs to learn this. Never assume someone sees you. Expect them to do the stupidest thing ever that will hurt or kill you. Period.

If you have specific q's I'd be happy to answer more!

BTW: I sold my vintage bike when divorcing and then sold my other bike just two years ago. I just didn't go on the long rides any longer and riding in traffic is NOT fun. Now I just bicycle everywhere.

Cover1W's picture

What I mean is adding a passenger.
It completely changes the weight/balance ratio of the bike.
Until he's completely and totally understanding how to handle the bike, including practicing all.the.time. quick stops, evasive actions, etc. I would not ride "up."
It's difficult enough learning alone, let alone with another person to take care of. If you do ride up eventually, you will need ALL the same gear - you will be on the same bike experiencing the same forces/speed. I cringe when I see the girls up behind the fully kitted out man, in their shorts and flip flops because when that bike goes down, their goes their foot and a good deal of their skin/flesh.

zerostepdrama's picture

I made it clear before he even got a bike that no other female will be riding in my seat. LOL

Exjuliemccoy's picture

I learned to ride on a small Kawasaki when I was 20. I wanted to overcome the fear I had of bikes instilled in me as a kid. I never felt truly comfortable riding on the street though, too many factors outside the driver's control. Then I bought a dirt bike, and it was goodbye, street riding!

You might want to have your DH teach you how to get a bike back up if it's on its side. It's a useful skill to have, especially in an emergency.

notsobad's picture

ExH had a Harley, we took our honeymoon on it.

Always leather, full shoes and helmet, even in the hot hot summer.
I was young and just hugged him with my thighs and followed the bike. I never felt unsafe and other riders have said I'm easy to ride with, that it's like not having a passenger at all.
I think being relaxed is the key.

If you eventually do a long trip make sure you have comfortable or no underwear on.
We'd been on the road for about 3 hours and I was wiggling. ExH pulled over and said go pee in the bushes. I didn't have to pee, my ass checks were killing me because the elastic was digging into me!
To get them off I would have had to take off my boots, my pants, and my leather pants on the side of the highway.
So exH took his knife fished the sides of my panties out and cut them. Then I held my breath, sucked in my stomach and he pulled them out!
He tossed them into a tree and we were off. I never wore undies on the bike again.
I can only imagine what someone would have thought if they'd found the cut up panties hanging from a tree! :jawdrop: