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ADD/ADHD or Just Plain Old Rotten Spoiled

jojo68's picture

I just responded to a blog entry about ADD...got me curious what you all think--ADD/ADHD or just spoiled?

Here is what I wrote in the blog response:

"I would bet a million bucks if I had it that my SD14 has ADHD. She can not sit quietly for more than 10 minutes. Can not be entertained for more than 30 minutes and expects to be entertained constantly. Constantly bored and wants to go somewhere no matter if it interests her or not. She is extremely immature and because of her incessant need to be noticed she is absolutely the most annoying person you could ever imagine. Constantly making noises...she sucks her drink from her glass and likes to suck on things in general and it is loud and so annoying. She constantly plays with the dog and is either yelling at it or talking baby talk to it and again that is beyond annoying. Certain things she is OCD about...she is obsessed with the expiration dates on food items and with whether a food is still good to eat...even if it looks perfectly fine...everything she eats she acts "is this still good dadddddddyyyyyyyyy?" She will hyperfocus on things that are usually of interest to a child half her age. She follows her dad around everywhere he goes...still sleeps with her grandmother (who lives next door to us). I can't carry on a conversation with her because she doesn't make any sense when she talks for the most part. I could go on...Oh and to top it all off she is a mini-wife big time---yeah for me.

The only thing that is a little different with her than most people who have ADHD is that she doesn't act out and gets decent grades.

You are so right...It is really hard to tell someone that you think their kid has a learning or mood disorder especially if they think that their kid is perfect. I just let it go...she has no interest in having a relationship with me and sees me as competition for her dad...maybe one day someone will realize that something is not quite right with this kid."

SMLIFESUCKS's picture

My son has adhd, the doctors who diagnosed it, yes I said doctors (2 to be exact) said his brain was like a tv that someone keeps hitting the remote. Or like a hound dog who is focused on something, sees a squirrel and is off on that.

My son does have some OCD tendencies but adhd is in that family, along with aspergers with my son has some of those as well. My BS13 is annoying but I do correct his behavior. DH thinks I'm too hard on him but BS13 seriously doesn't even know that he is doing some of those things until I say something.

BS13 is also just teen boy annoying or skid annoying to my DH, I'm sure. It's hard to diagnos ADHD. My son was diagnosed in 2nd grade and it took months. The doctors still see him more often, he is taking a low dose of meds just so he can focus because his reading was horrible. As he's getting older, he is trying to correct some of this behavior on his own.

Be aware the docs told me that many of the aspergers, OCD and ADHD can present like each other. It's not easy to diagnos or deal with TRUST ME.

Sports Fan's picture

My son went through almost a year of testing. ADHD/ADD, Aspergers Spectrum, and Autism can all have similar traits. It takes a real commitment to deal with a child with one of these diagnosis. My son had 6 years of therapy and was in special education in school until he was in 5th grade. I spent three years in therapy to learn how to help my son. His BD refused to believe there was anything wrong and stopped going after a couple visits. It was part of what led to our divorce.

Fortunately my son's case was not as severe as others and he responded very well to his therapy and help he received in school. My son learned to deal with his condition and he has adapted and adjusted well. He is in regular education classes now and is even doing a teaching internship.

It is important to get a really good evaluation and be sure of what you are dealing with. If it is one of the conditions, there is help and hope for improvement. If it's merely a result of bad parenting, there are also ways to deal with that situation.

If DH is not willing to consider an issue, it won't matter which it is. It all starts with him.

hereiam's picture

I do think it is over diagnosed and sometimes used as a cop out for parents (and kids) BUT I do believe it exists.

I don't know enough about it to opine whether somebody might have it.

GhostWhoCooksDinner's picture

I agree. I can't tell you how many kids have been brought to my clinic by their parents, with the parents begging me to please diagnose them with ADD or ADHD or a learning disability. A small percentage of these kids actually had a disorder. The majority were parented poorly, plain and simple.

jojo68's picture

Yeah I too see a lot of "off" things with SD14 too but that could just be her personality. One troubling thing that I see with her is a lack of empathy---very little reaction to a pet's death ( I have no proof but I think she has actually hurt them as well) or that she steals and doesn't have a conscience about it.

jojo68's picture

BM (almost non-existant in child's life) is bipolar and others in the family struggle with learning disabilities as well as mood disorders. She actual does ok in school but is not focused...she doesn't reason well at all.

blayze's picture

I just read through the symptoms you listed and it doesn't sound that much like ADD. You're right...she sounds spoiled rotten.

I have ADD and didn't find out about it until recently. I really wish I would have known earlier, and I don't fit the stereotype that gets (mis-)diagnosed today. I got straight A's in school, got lost in my room for hours and hours, was mature, responsible, empathetic, etc.

However, I couldn't commit to anything. Was always late. Was involved in every activity possible. Loved high-risk activities (adrenaline-junkie). Had many different circles of friends. Was/am highly creative. Procrastinated, but could focus for a looooong time if something interested me. Was very moody - up/down/up/down all day long. Worked best under pressure - most of my A-worthy projects were done the night before.

But reading about your SD, all I see is an annoying brat.

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She can not sit quietly for more than 10 minutes.
--- Poor parenting...tell her to shut up.:)

Can not be entertained for more than 30 minutes and expects to be entertained constantly.
--- Not ADD...again poor parenting. People should be able to entertain themselves for very long stretches.

Constantly bored and wants to go somewhere no matter if it interests her or not.
--- Not ADD...lack of creativity.

She is extremely immature and because of her incessant need to be noticed she is absolutely the most annoying person you could ever imagine.
--- Not ADD...no empathy! Annoying people can't put themselves in someone else's shoes.

Constantly making noises...she sucks her drink from her glass and likes to suck on things in general and it is loud and so annoying.
--- Not ADD...poor parenting. She should have been told to STFU a long time ago. Seriously? She's 14!

She constantly plays with the dog and is either yelling at it or talking baby talk to it and again that is beyond annoying.
--- Not sure what this means.

Certain things she is OCD about...she is obsessed with the expiration dates on food items and with whether a food is still good to eat...even if it looks perfectly fine...everything she eats she acts "is this still good dadddddddyyyyyyyyy?"
--- OCD does sometimes show up with ADD.

She will hyperfocus on things that are usually of interest to a child half her age.
--- Not ADD...restrictive thought processes.

She follows her dad around everywhere he goes...still sleeps with her grandmother (who lives next door to us). I can't carry on a conversation with her because she doesn't make any sense when she talks for the most part.
--- All of these should have been nipped in the bud a long time ago.

I now diagnose your SD with ANNOYING CHILD behavior, brought on by craptastic parenting! Not your fault of course. Biggrin