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tryingtofindpeace's picture

Is it appropriate for a 12 year old girl to "snuggle" in bed with her father still?
My gut screams no.
I hate it.
First off, I hate when the skids are in my bed. I don't go and hang out in their beds so get out of mine,
Secondly, my sd12 has weird associations with her father that sometimes make me want to vomit. She still tries to sit on his lap and starts hanging all over him when I am around.
So DH knows how I feel about the kids being in our bed and our bedroom as a playroom...
I work evenings sometimes and sd12 mentioned yesterday that the cat was being really nice to her (all of my pets hate her) the other day when she was snuggling with her dad (my dh) in my bed the other evening.
WTF!
this totally makes me want to hurl. He should have f-ing married her as he clearly doesn't need a wife with the princess around.

Oh and to top it off, some of my family came into town last night and BOTH skids and DH were all acting like perfect little angels. My husband went out of his way to make this wonderful dinner for my family (which was really sweet of him to do)... and the skids were both talking to me like they liked me and wanted to be around me... And although it sounds like that should make me happy, it really just pissed me off because I had no idea who those people were and it all felt so fake. SD can't stand not being in the center of everything so if my family comes to see me, she has to usurp my attention so she knows she is again the center and is important.
ugh, i cannot stand her.

so irritated...

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dianna76's picture

I totally understand you..... My husband and I live for a year now in different states just because his daughter refuses to live with her bm.She will be 18 this month and after the school is over and she goes to college we are suppose to start living together.
I have a very bad feeling about our future.....she destroyed his 2 previous marriages, including the one with her bm.She wants her daddy all to herself ! You are upset that your 12 year old sd is snuggling with her dad in your bed imagine how I felt when my sd was doing it in front of me at 16 and 17.It makes me sick to my stomach.To upset me, she would even come to sleep between us after having a bad dream (bs !!!).
When I talk about it to my husband he gets angry and tells me that I am jealous of his poor, loving daughter.Money wise, she gets everything she asks for, he even gave her his new SUV and got himself a piece of sh* car, because the princess needs to be safe.
She is the biggest manipulator I have ever seen in my life, she can go on and on about how stupid and bad to the daddy her bm was just to get gifts from him.Oh, and get this, she is the only one living with her dad, her brother and sister are normal kids and of course they live with their bm.
I am a professional and an attractive woman....I don't need this crap in my life.I made a huge mistake getting married to him.I am from Holland and I never heard about problems with step children and I could never imagine finding myself in the current situation.
I am going to get a divorce, but on my terms....I am not going to give her the satisfaction of detroying one more relatioship... she would love that.
I feel exactly like you decribed that "he should f-ing married her" and hire a maid instead of getting a wife.
It feels good to get it out of my system because making him understand my point of view is a lost cause.
Good luck with everything and remeber you always come first !
Dianna

Valleymom's picture

That is gross!!! She should not be doing that!!!

Tara12's picture

At 12 it is NOT normal to sit on his lap at all. That should have stopped a long time ago - like 5 or 6! She is probably just starting to be hormonal as well so watch out. I can see them giving each other hugs and things like that but sitting there snuggling like they are a couple should not be happening. She does not need to be in your bedroom either.

tryingtofindpeace's picture

thank you thank you thank you.
I am glad I am not crazy.

Tara12's picture

I met SD16 when she was 12 and if anything if my FH tried to hug her or anything she would be like eww get off me. I have 4 sisters and I don't recall any of us ever hanging all over daddy. I also have 7 nieces that are now in their late 20's and I never saw them hang all over my BILs and if anything my sisters would always joke that my BILs would be upset because their little girls where all grown up and didn't want to sit on daddy's lap anymore or hang out with him, etc. Of course not! At twelve they are discovering their own identity, friends, interests, etc. Your SD has issues. Are you affectionate with your DH in front of her? It sounds like she is trying to act like you maybe and make you jealous. It's a power play perhaps.

The Principlist's picture

Ema - That is what I was thinking. I have been around since my SD was 3. She used to be all clingy and up under DH. But at 12, actually probably a little over 10ish when her body started changing she was so not into hugs anymore. Sitting on his lap...are you crazy? She was very uncomfortable with the changes that were now taking place that she was no longer as touchy feely with DH. Which we understood. Hell she even began giving those sideways hugs with one arm. There is no cuddling in our bed. If I am home or not. We have all as a family gotten in our bed to watch a movie, but that is it. And as crazy as this seems the only person that will sleep in our bed is BD when she is visiting from college and that is on a rare occasion. DH works nights and sometimes BD has wanted to stay up late and chat and she will lay in our bed and fall asleep BUT when DH came in at 7:30 she had to get gone. This only happened a few times as BD LOVES her sleep and is not an early riser. So, she would make it her business to get to her bed at 3-4 in the morning so she doesn't have to get up when DH comes in.

SNUGGLING!?!?! Only one person SNUGGLES with DH and that is ME. LOL. Don't I sound territorial?

Anyone can take the easy way out and blame others. BUT it takes a a person of character to take a look at one's self and actions and own responsibility for their part. ~ ME ~ }:-P

trophySmom's picture

When my husband and I first moved in together my now SD's were 6 and 8. They slept with us in our bed every night they were there. I never felt it was inappropriate but I did not like it at all. I knew that my now husband, who at the time was my boyfriend, felt guilty about not living in the same house with the girls anymore and he worked alot so letting them sleep with us made him feel closer to them and vice versa, so I understood it and didn't say anything about it for awhile.....

This went on for almost 4 years! and by the end it was a big issue, I felt the kids were too old and too big to be sleeping with us. For one, no one got a good nights sleep because we were scrunched together in what was a king size bed but it was still too small to fit four people. We also have the kids 50% of the time so I felt like I was missing alot of valuable alone time with my husband, he of course didn't want to change the situation for obvious reasons.

I have always had a great relationship with my SD's from day one(I was very lucky that way!) but I did resent the sleeping situation and that made me unhappy when it was our days to have them because I knew I wasn't going to have a good nights sleep.

Finally we decided to move to a smaller house for financial reasons and my husband and I made the decision that the kids would not sleep with us anymore. My OSD was fine with it, she was 11 at this time and I think she felt the same way we did, that she was too old to be sleeping with her parents, she was just waiting for us to say it. My YSD, however, was extremely upset, she was 9 at the time but she had always been the more clingy of the two girls. She was dead set against sleeping in her own bed. It took one night of my DH telling her you are sleeping in this room in this bed and her crying herself to sleep for her to get over it.

......so it wasn't as hard as we thought it would be to remedy the situation and I feel much closer to my husband and my SD's because I can enjoy my time with the girls and still know that my DH and I will get the alone time we both need with each other every night....

....and sometimes I do miss the girls sleeping with us because it was a good bonding experience to talk to each other right before we fell asleep but I miss it the same way I miss playing barbies with them....it's something that had to happen because they are growing up and turning into young women.

They are now 11 and 13 and both sleep in their own rooms and are fine with that. A couple times in the passed year or so my YSD would get upset about something and want to sleep in our room but we had her sleep on blankets on the floor because at this point I do feel it's inappropriate for a girl that age to sleep in our bed.

....I don't think cuddling in bed with your dad is inappropriate as long as it's just long enough to watch a tv show or something along those lines and then the girl goes to bed in her own room. You want them to be affectionate with each other, all though, some of the affection you've mentioned does just sound like the girl wanting to make you jealous....don't let her do that because then she wins. Whenever either of my SD's do something just to get on my nerves, which doesn't happen alot but they are teens so occasionally, I just ignore them or smile and pretend like it doesn't bother me in the slightest and they understand pretty quick that there is no point because they aren't getting the desired result...so try not to let her irritate you, in fact, act like your totally okay with the strange affection, chances are she'll probably get bored with it and move on to something else!

Good Luck!!!

Gia's picture

4 years!!!!

I wouldn't have tolerated such situation for FOUR DAYS !!!!! :jawdrop:

I'm still amazed!

secondwife20's picture

is way too old to be sitting on her dad's lap.

Blabb is turning 9, and I think SHE is too old to sit on da da's lap, which she LOVES to do.

Most Evil's picture

I don't think anyone needs to sit on parent's lap after after 6, or sleep with them either. To me it borders on being sexual when they are 12 doing it! Not a good idea, they need to learn boundaries in their own family so they will not get in bad situations outside the family.

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth." - Vladimir Lenin

Sassy's picture

My skids are all boys 17, 16 and 11 and my son is 12. My 12 y/o still sits on my lap on occassin and my SS11 sits on my lap too. They are both very loving and sweet young boys. they also both sit on DH's lap. Even my SS16 will sit on DH, bt i think he is just joking and letting DH know he loves him. I sat on my dad's lap forvevr-we were very close. I still go plop down on him once in a while and I'm wayyyy too old for that, but like I said, we are very close. All of the members of my family are very touchy feely-everyone hugs all the time and people are always sitting on someone. None of it evr seems inappropriate. I am just exstatic these days because my OSS17 has decided to go to the college I go to, and my SS11 has started saying "I love you" to me without any prompting. He has said it twice so far Smile Smile

"A parents job is to eat as much sh*t as we have to so that the children do not."

doglover1's picture

on the lap thing.......but the bedroom, OFF LIMITS. Its HUSBAND and WIFE only. It was ALWAYS that way when i was a kid....even when i was small. NO WAY. My parents had 3 kids and they needed there (little as it was) time alone , away from us blood sucking brats. Tell your husband that is the way it is. In my house we have 2 kids...they are his and we have them 24/7 so we need our time (which isnt much) snugglin in the bedroom is out. NOt to friggin mention how damn much attention do these kids need. Give me a break. We are creating a world of whippy children........sorry im in no mo0od right now.

Sassy's picture

it all depends on the situation too. i don't have any of my kids sleep in my bed, that would be gross, but if DH is in the living room watching TV and I am in the bedroom, the two little ones (SS11,and son 12) and the SS16 will lay down with me and watch TV. I think it's nice they are comfortable enough with me and my house to do that and we generally have a great time.

"A parents job is to eat as much sh*t as we have to so that the children do not."

bewitched's picture

"To Thine Own Self Be True" William Shakesphere

12 is getting too old for the lap, but there's a little room there. What sickens me is seeing SD17 sitting on H's lap. Makes me want to smack both of them, hard. It's sickening. totally.

But 12 shouldn't be in your bed! That's overstepping boundaries big time. SD17 laid down on my side of the bed next to her father one time-the look she got from me got her up fast. But I did come in to find SD14 sleeping in our bed once. I told H after that-no more. If it was the only bed in the house, that's different. But it's not.

Time for your H to grow up. If he has to snuggle in bed with a 12 y.o., he's got a prob.

Cheyenne Arizona's picture

EEEWWW! That is totally inappropriate. At 12 she should be starting to hate him......isn't that what hormones are for?

JMC's picture

JamaicanMeCrazy
DISNEY LIED...THERE IS NO 'HAPPILY EVER AFTER'

There is NOTHING normal with a 12 yr old kid "snuggling" with daddy dear anywhere, let alone in your bed! A hug or a kiss on the cheek, but snuggling?? No way! SD17 still slept in the same bed with DH back when she was in junior high - I didn't know them then and I didn't learn about this until MIL mentioned it a while back - of course DH & SD17 denied it, but since they lived with MIL, I suppose she would know. ICK ICK ICK!! WTH is wrong with these parents? Sorry, but in this day and age, this is definately inappropriate.

TinaKay's picture

I would keep any snuggling away from the bed and bedrooms. Other than that snuggling is fine, more so when other people are around and its done in the open.

GOING CRAZY's picture

OMG my 12 year old stepdaughter still tries to sit on her dads lap. And I told him she is to old to be doing this. I have to say it is very hard to be a stepparent. We have her 50/50. Sad thing is when ever we have her its drama. When ever we go shopping she will make sure that she is in front of me so I don't walk with her dad. Omg one time dd ask her to move to the another side and she just slowed down so i could not walk beside him. Can you believe this has been going on for 4 years. We are hanging in and getting married this July. Oh yes she hangs all over him. What can you do.