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Shell97's picture

I apologize now, b/c this maybe long & is totally OT. But I need to get it out and right now DH is sleeping & I have no one to talk to about this.

Well before I go any further, let me give everyone some background about this. My parents have been married for 37 years this July. My mom is a total controlling bitch. Yes, she is my mother, but her & I do not have a good relationship at all. Anything I do or say is wrong, according to her. And she treats my father the same way. My dad can not even go have a meal with any of his friends, but she can go & do whatever she pleases with no questions asked. My mom also accuses my dad & I of being alcoholics, b/c when I was up for a visit last summer him & I bought a case of beer and had a few together. (He still has some of it left & it's been 8 months since that visit) That is just one of the many things she has said or done to him & I. I have known for a very long time that things between my mom & dad were not good. But my dad stayed with her & I think he did b/c of me. Well in Nov. 08 DH, BS11, & I moved 1100 miles away from them, b/c of her. I hated to leave my dad behind, but I had to get BS11 away from her.

So, I talked to my mother this morning and she dropped a bombshell on me. "My dad told her that he wants a divorce." I asked her why. My mom then proceeded to say that doesn't know why. She just knows that nothing she does is right. I wanted to say that I know why, but didn't want to fight with her. B/C everytime I try to tell her she is doing something wrong, she starts the guilt trips and it really isn't my place to say "Look, you're treating my dad like shit." So I just listened to her go on & on about how she never does anything right and doesn't know why he wants a divorce. Then she started saying that she thinks it's all his medications he is on & the fact that me moving is finally hitting him.

So then my dad calls tonight, b/c BS11 tried calling earlier and no one was home. BS11 talked to him for a few minutes and then I told BS11 that I wanted to talk to him (mu dad). So I got on the phone and went outside, b/c I didn't want BS11 to hear what we were talking about. I asked my dad what was going on with him & mom. He asked why and I told him what she had said to me. My dad said he never used the word divorce, but that is what it boils down to. B/C he is not happy and hasn't been for a very long time. And for the first time in my life, my dad opened up to me & told me different things that has been going on. And I told him the real reason why we moved. B/C when we decided to move we had told them it was for a job offer that DH had. Which was partly true, but the main reason was my mother. Tonight was the first time that my dad & I have ever told each other how we truly feel about my mom. It was a very deep and intense conversation. My dad also told me that it this isn't happening b/c we moved away. I told him that he needs to tell her that, so that she quits blaming me.

I talked to DH about it a little bit, but I still keep thinking about it. And I am starting wonder if I am wrong for being on my dad's side b/c of everything my has done and said to me my entire life, well for at least as far back as I can remember. DH says I shouldn't feel guilty or bad for being on my dad's side, but that I still need to remember that she is my mom. Yes, I know she is...but she was never really a "real mom" to me. I don't have the classic "mother daughter" relationship that most women do with their mom. My mom has never supported anything I ever wanted to do, even while I was in school. But my father has, even though I didn't get to do the things I wanted to b/c of her. My mom never had the "sex talk" with me or took the time to explain shaving properly, pms, or my period at all. I got the "sex talk" from my dad which consisted of "don't have sex until you're 18 and don't get pregnant until after you graduate high school". I could go on & on about the different things she has done or said to me, but I think you all get the point.

I guess what I'm looking for is for someone other than DH to tell me that it is ok to be on my dad's side. B/C I have no clue how I am to feel, if I should be on one side or the other, or what I should say to them b/c they both have their own version of what is going on. I just need something right now & I'm not sure what.

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Shell97's picture

I do feel that my dad stayed with her b/c of me for all these years and when I moved away, it finally in some way gave him the courage to stand up to her(so to speak). My dad is hoping that they can be civil about this, but him & I know my mom and know it isn't gonna be civil. Plus it doesn't help that all of their neighbors are my mothers family (her parents & 3 brothers). I thought that at first too, why give up so easily after so many years. But then my dad started talking to me & opening up and I realized that my mom not only made my life a living hell, she made his that way too. So he shouldn't be with her any longer. He is only 54 and deserves to be happy. As far as the counseling thing...that is totally out of the question. My mom doesn't believe in it. B/C 11 years ago when me & my EH got divorced, I was going to counseling and after working through my issues with my divorce, my therapist started working with me on other issues. Well turns out that my biggest problem was and still is the way my mother treats me. My therapist recommended that she sit in on one of my sessions. My mother refused saying that she doesn't need some quack telling her anything. Well, I guess "who's side" was a little unclear...I think what I really ment was if it ok for me to be supportive of my dad and not my mom. I plan on letting them deal with it, but I am sure that she will try to drag me into it. B/C she basically already is by telling me that it is my fault for moving that is causing my dad to feel this way. When in all actuality it isn't. But in all honesty, I have seen this happening since I was 12. And she hasn't only been doing it to my dad, but to me as well. And her neutral person will be her own mother & best friend...who will tell her what she wants to hear, not what is fact. B/C her mother, my grandmother, treats my grandfather the same way. And now I'm worried that I am beginning to be just like them and I don't know how to change that. And as far as hearing all the sad & private details....I don't really have to b/c I already know from living & seeing it. My dad just confirmed it to me tonight that what I have been seeing, hearing, & living was true and I'm not alone in how I feel about her.

Thanks Furie!

usade's picture

Hi Shell,

You shouldn't feel bad about your feelings! My parents had a long, rough marriage with a lot of crap from both sides. At one point, my siblings and I had a family meeting without them and came to the conclusion that it would be in the best interests of the entire family if they just got divorced. I announced our "decision" to them. We didn't care with which parent we would live because we loved them both dearly and no one would be able to stop us from visiting the live-away parent. They did stay together, but only thanks to lots of compromise. Parents are, first and foremost, individuals. We all have to see that despite our best intentions, a lot of things we do aren't necessarily good for us or for those around us. I'm glad you and your dad could talk things out...even if you do "take his side", she's still your mom and both of you can more or less accept her for who she is, and that will be some kind of support during the tough times, for all of you. God bless you!

Angel72's picture

Ah shell, dont feel guilty you are on dad's side. Its not dad vs mom here. You know the reasons for this breakup. It was a long time in the running and its better for your dad if he does break up and be happy for once in his life. You now also can have a care free visit without your mom bitchin him out. Its not fun goign through life with a character like this and unless she owns up to this pattern of behaviour , your dad will need to leave for his own sake. He's young and can finally enjoy life. Its sad that your mother doesn't see what is going on, doesn't take ownership of her actions. If she doesn't go to a therapist to have her eyes open and if this divorce doesn't get her eyes open , nothign will.
I'm sure your mom will give issues when separating things but in the end its for the best. And you'll have separate relationships with both your parents. WHo knows, it maybe better with your mom here on out.
I wasn't close with my dad at all. He wast' a dad, didnt' take me to movies or the park, didn't have a mom, she died when i was very little. So from my perspective, we dont choose our parents, but we can choose the amount of time we spend with them. They are humans with flaws and if someone doesn't like their parents or one of their parent because of character flaws, its your right. Dotn feel guilty about it.
I personally dont care what title a person holds in life, if your direspectful to me, i'll kick ya out onto the curb. I've done that many times with my dad! lol...dotn feel guilty!
And if your mom 'blames' you , put her in her place. Scrap it out like anyone, dont hold back and rip her a new one like i've done with my dad.

Kb3Hooah's picture

Shell, you don't have to feel guilty b/c you agree with points that your Dad has made. You can disagree with her, and agree with your Dad, but still not take "sides". Look at it this way, there are no "sides" here, you've seen/heard each POV, and you've come to your own conclusion....it's your conclusion to come to, not your Mom's and not your Dad's....so the only side you have is your side Smile

As far as your Mom not having the talks with you that most Mom's do with their daughters....neither did mine. I think it was b/c she was uncomfortable talking to me about it, and maybe she felt that if she didn't talk about it at all, the less I would know about it, and in her mind it wouldn't happen. I don't think it was b/c she didn't want to be a Mom to me, or didn't care about me.

((((Shell))))

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blindsided's picture

Shell, If I was you I would not pick a side. Even though you are a grown adult, in the setting of this problem you are still the child. Not by maturity or anything like that but literally the child. Their child. And while they will probably come to you to discuss how they feel, they should never make you pick a side or feel like you have to. I would let them know right from the begining that you are more than happy to be a sounding board for them but, that you will not be taking sides because for better or worse they are both your parents and in their own way (screwed up or not) they do love you. And then when it gets to tough to hear and you need to vent... we will be here for you Smile Keep your head up darlin'. Stay Strong.