You are here

The biggest explosion ever...could this be the end? I sooo need to vent (sorry it's long)

lil_teapot's picture

Saturday was ss's birthday. I wasn't told about it until just a couple of days before and I had already arranged to go see my parents upstate. But I said I'd go see them, and bring back a cake with his favorite hockey guy on it. I was really happy to do it. I wasn't sure ss would care, since they get so much stuff all the time, but he really was delighted to get the cake and all his friends were jealous. It was a wonderful night with everyone over...it was probably the best night we'd ever had. And then the next morning came...
ExWife calls saying she's coming to pickup the kids, but she was going to be there an hour so she could take the dog for a walk. DH said, "Ok sure." I went completely ballistic. We've fought many, many times about her coming into our house for one, and for another her obsession with the dog. They bought the dog together when they were married and he's kept her for the kids...but EW keeps coming around to take care of her for him before he met me.
So, long story short, I blew up at him and took off. I came back with my packing box and started gathering my things. He got mad at that point and took his ring off and threw it on the table and said that if I was packing he wasn't wearing that and we were over. I wanted to take my stuff back to my place and try to go back a couple of steps where we were dating each other from our own places, but he wasn't listening. I was upset and crying and hysterical but he had to go and my car was blocking his. So I went to my place and he stopped there a few minutes later. He said he spoke to EW and that she understood she was causing us problems and she wasn't going to come around to do anything more with the dog and the dog will be re-homed in a few days (she thinks she owns the dog and will decide where she's going to go even though the dog lives with dh and me). I was still crying and hysterical when dh came to tell me that. I kind of felt a little better but the problem was WHY did he ok her coming over to start with? He didn't have an answer. So he had to go somewhere with the kids and I stayed there crying and throwing up. He stopped back later (after I'd talked to every human I know about what to do with him). He said the thing with EW coming over will stop now and the discussion is over. I said, no it's not over because I need to know why he did it in order to forgive and he didn't know and said the discussion was over. He said I was supposed to come over to "our" house for dinner or else..meaning if I didn't we were over. (He's done alot of those ultimatums lately but doesn't ever follow through). I knew he was just angry so I let it go. He wanted...I don't know what...to make me say I was sorry or something which I wasn't...he was completely wrong and wouldn't own it...like it was my fault for not being ok with the is crazy woman coming over to walk our dog on Sunday when we were home!!! So I was pretty cold to him and he left saying he hoped he'd see me at home that night.
I decided that since he did fix the problem...EW wasn't going to be coming around after the dog and the dog was going to a new home, we were pretty much in the clear and the problem would be solved...so I wanted to reward good behavior like that with positive reinforcement so I decide to go over and stay last night. I talked to him a little bit and we went to bed very tired. He still had a pretty sharp edge to him like he was mad about the day's events and I wasn't backing down. I said I love him, I want us to get married and all that but I will not tolerate any more nonsense from his EW, none! He can't get that I can be mad at him and then let it go...he tends to hold on to it but then say he doesn't...classic passive-aggressive thing. He blames me and says I'm high strung or whatever, that I overreact...but I think he's wrong. I only jump on him over the EW issues...I never demand more of his time or tell him how to discipline the kids. I think I'm entitled to be p*ssed off when his EW comes right into our home and acts like she still lives there.
So anyway, I stayed over last night and it was nice to snuggle up to him. I stayed on my side of the bed talking calmly to him in the dark for a while but then when we went to sleep he moved over and snuggled me..that meant alot that he would put his anger aside to come to me, because usually it's us going to them.
I gotta tell you though, this morning he got up at his usual time like for work, and kissed me goodbye and left. I came to work (we work for the same company different areas) and he wasn't here. I haven't asked about his absence or said anything...I'll just pretend I knew he wasn't going to be here if anyone asks. But honestly, I am seriously p*ssed that after all we'd talked about that he would pull this little stunt...like he was going to work but really doesn't. Now I'm not sure how to react because he said yesterday he wasn't coming to work and was taking a day off to go golf...but right before we went to bed he said he had to get up early to go to work. So that's kind of a crappy thing for him to do by not telling me where he's going. I was still in bed so I didn't see what he was wearing...he dresses casual for work but it could also be casual golf clothes, so I don't know for sure since I didn't see the outfit.
I want to believe that he decided to go golf since he'd been complaining about it for a while and needing alone time to do his own thing. I'm just angry that he does it without telling me for sure where he's going or phoning or texting or anything. And I'm angry that he holds me accountable for every second of my time...where am I, when will I be home, what am I doing. I never give him reason to doubt my faithfulness at all...I love this stupid man with all my heart and I don't want to live without him, I just get tired of his childish tantrums and pouts, and constantly blaming me for his own screw-ups.
There is a part of me that says that today isn't a big deal...he said (kind of) that he was golfing today plus he doesn't have to account to me for his time constantly...but there's also a part of me that says he's a jerk for not telling me he was golfing and I feel it's unfair that he makes me account to him for my whereabouts and he's not equally accountable.
Does anyone have any advice how to cope with what's been going on lately? Should we go see a counselor or would that be pointless? We can ultimately decide whether or not our relationship is able to be saved, but I think I need someone to help us communicate since we're failing miserably...
Thanks for listening! Smile

Comments

lil_teapot's picture

apparently all men are childish pouters.lol I thought I had gotten the few bad ones, but they are all alike apparently.

BabygotBack1988's picture

try councilling its obvios that you both care about each other still so id try that honey

life is a box of choclates you never know what your going to get (i always pick the coffe of the box what about you ) Blum 3

stepwitch's picture

Change the locks. You can't fix stupid, so if she feels some type of ownership to fh, that's her problem.

I'm worried that he was so fast to take off his ring. Sounds like he is pretty stubborn and unwilling to take your feelings into count. Try counseling. Hope that works. My dh thought that he could control me and everything around him until we sought counceling. Then he came to realize that we were equal and he wasn't the BOSS.

Man, I can't stand this for you. Double standards. He can do as he chooses without your knowrledge, but you can't? Where's the trust?

Stepwitch
Thank you Disney for portraying a positive image on all stepmothers!!!!

KittyKat's picture

As I'm reading all of these blogs lately, I'm wondering if we're
all caught up in some kind of zodiac TIME WARP where insane things
keep happening.

YOU, my friend, did NOTHING WRONG. Like everyone else on this site,
you were SETTING A BOUNDARY, a MUCH-NEEDED boundary at that, and
you were met with MAJOR resistance, lots of passive-agressive be-
havior, and NOW YOU are questioning whether you are too BLAME.

Right now, it seems as if you are being "punished" for putting your
foot down. Please PLEASE do not blame yourself!!!

You actually became PHYSICALLY ILL after standing up for yourself.
I've been there, too. I just wish that, deep down, I could be total
complete BITCH, lay down the law, and just MOVE ON. I'm slowly
getting there, not just with DH and his kids, but also with my
OWN wacky mother and adult son.

Keep venting!! It really helps and is good for your sanity!

lil_teapot's picture

I really appreciate your comments and everyone else's too. In my head I know I'm right, but he doesn't fight fair--he twists things around and then tries to distract the argument to something else entirely...like we start out talking about this and he winds up telling me I don't go to enough of the skids ballgames.
I do get physically ill trying to argue with him. I have been a pretty evil bitch throughout my life and never took any crap from anyone until my exHusband. He was abusive and the last 6 months were literally a hell that I'm still recovering from. And now when I fight with dh I get sick because I can't stand the thought of him being mad at me or not loving me anymore...pretty pathetic huh? He knows I could find someone else in a heartbeat and that they'd be lining up, but he also knows I'm not like that...that I love him and want to be with him, so when he gets mad at me I feel like my entire world is going to come to an end.
I'm trying to talk wtih him about our problems, which he's always willing to do the next day after he's had time to cool down...but in the meantime, I'm completely sick over it.
I think counseling for both of us is an excellent idea...and I intend to have my own counselor so I can learn how to fight again without completely collapsing into a pile.
You all are lifesavers!!! I don't know how I coped before coming here.

sparky's picture

He took care of the problem what else do you want him to do? Evidently she used to live in that house so she thought that she could walk in and out whenever she wanted to. You are lucky that he took care of the problem because a lot of men would have said whats the big deal about her coming over. You know that hes playing golf so let it go.

gertrude's picture

Ok - I had a warning bell go off when I read your post. He requires that you account for all of your time, he thinks it is ok to have his EX essentially a part of your household without consulting you, and he delivers ultimatums to control your behavior? These three things together paint a picture to me of the early stages of an abusive relationship. I think RecentlyRetired is right on - get some counselling now. Don't give up your place. He may just be a real control freak, but still. A little counseling now could save a lot of grief tomorrow.

Venting is good - you didn't do anything wrong!

lil_teapot's picture

My first husband was abusive, but his behavior wasn't like this...he snuck up on me with it...little bits here and there until he had control over everything. This one isn't nearly as slick. It doesn't seem to be heading into a similar field as the last one (although who knows anyone really?)...it seems more like a pouty child punishing and lashing out. I swear, he can get about *this* far from throwing himself on the floor and having a complete temper tantrum.

Georgie Girl's picture

I would be wary of getting involved with a guy who is still so enmeshed with the ex. Why is he okay with her coming over his house to walk the dog?? This does not make sense to me. They are divorced and they should only be communicating regarding the children.

Like K-Kat said, boundaries are important. He has to be willing to work with you and set boundaries with the ex otherwise your relationship will suffer.

How long have you been dating this guy? Sometimes we women rush into things that we regret later. Don't let your love for him just sweep you away. Take your time!! I hate to sound like the voice of doom and gloom, but things will NOT get better if you get married. If you do not establish boundaries now and work out what appears to be possessiveness on his part before the marrige it will be tougher to deal with them later.

Smile Georgie

lil_teapot's picture

I don't believe that things will get better with marriage, but he does and that's the problem. He thinks that if we're married the EW will be less likely to be coming around for anything...or even if we just fully move in together. He seems to want to make me the badgirl here and set it up so that I am the one upsetting their little apple cart. He said I need to "stake out my territory" and "he thought I was tougher than this"...huh?! I'm putting up with all the crap that goes on, don't screw up my stepparenting things, and he has the nerve to do this?! Men....

The Principlist's picture

controlling is where it all begins. It starts out as wanting to know where you are and who you're with and what time you will be back. A lot of women reason this as "he cares for me." It then escalates to verbal abuse and maybe even some pushing and shoving. The female response is usually "he's under a lot of stress at work, at home, with the bills, because his cat died." You get the picture. As if the pushing and shoving weren't enough it usually escalates to actual slaps and fists. The females response "I made him do it. I shouldn't have bothered him when he was..." I'm sure you get the picture. The minute one issue is no longer effective for controlling the woman, it escalates to the next that will get results.

No I have never been abused. I'm crazy enough that if a man put his hands on me, he may harm me, but he will be lying in the casket next to me.

I grew up with my grandmother constantly being abused and degraded by my grandfather. GMa was a very meek little woman who loved her family (12 kids) and stayed home to raise them. GPa was an alcoholic who was quite controlling and would come home in a drunken stupor and attack GMa for whatever stupid reason existed that day. She didn't iron his shirt good, she didn't cook his favorite meal... My mom was the oldest of the 12 children and she and my dad would run over in the middle of the night to rescue GMa from GPa. Gma would move in with us until GPa came crying about how much he loved her and missed her and she would go running back. This vicious cycle went on for YEARS. GPa got fed up with all of the interference and actually moved Gma and the remaining minor children away from everyone. It wasn't a year later when we got the call that GPa had murdered GMa in cold blood and the minor children found her body. GPa was drunk once again and GMa was bringing in the groceries (just returned from shopping) and GPa said that she had been out having an affair and opened fire on her (hitting her 7 times). The minor children came home to find their mother lying in a pool of blood on the front lawn with melted popsicles mixed in with her blood. No person should ever have to witness that. None of them have been right since then, you can never forget that image. I didn't see it, but I can picture it. I miss my GMa, but her violent death taught me a valuable lesson. Don't take NO Sh!t from no controlling man.

This incident occurred in 1980, long before Domestic Violence was an issue or before Nicole Brown knew that OJ Simpson existed.

Last time I checked, I'm a Grown A$$ woman. Make him remember that. He can't have his cake and eat it too. If he wants you to account for your whereabouts, then so should he PERIOD.

My new StepMother's Motto:

When life gives you lemons... Make a damn good Margarita.

lil_teapot's picture

I'm so sorry that happened to your family. It's shocking what people can do. I am just appalled that someone could do something so terrible to someone they claim to love.
It's kinda eerie that you said that about being a grown a** woman...that's exactly what he said to me that he was a 40-year old, grown man and he doesn't have to report to anyone. I'm not sure it was abusive or if it was more him acting like a spoiled child.
I do have experience with domestic violence first hand. My exH moved me to his home country before we got married. We made it a few months after getting married before he started abusing me...it was pretty terrible those last 2.5 months I was trapped there with him. I can really relate to what happened to your Gma because I thought that would be how i would end up too. This now doesn't feel quite the same. Like I say, he seems more like a pouty child than a predator like my exH was...but maybe I'm wrong. It definitely is a clear sign to me that I need to stay aware of things.
Thanks for what you said and I hope that you and your family can some day find peace.

The Principlist's picture

Teapot, just be careful. Know your limit and pay attention to the signs if things should start to escalate.

Thanks for your sentiments. Trust and believe that I am okay with my family's past. A lot of my relatives don't like to talk about it or share it with others. I live my life like an open book because I feel that if I can spare someone else the headache, heartache or pain through an experience, then I do so. Just remember that YOUR safety is above all else.

My new StepMother's Motto:

When life gives you lemons... Make a damn good Margarita.

frustrated like nobodies business's picture

let eachother know where we are most times but it's more out of consideration for the other person rather than checking in. when you live together and in your case, work together your SO would naturally be worried if they were supposed to be in one place and you didnt know where they were. yes, he mentioned going golfing but the last thing he told you was that he was working. out of consideration he could have just text you or called to let you know that the plans changed. i think couseling would be good (we start today) and also keep your place and don't jump into marriage until these issues are resolved. that's where i'm at in my life and i am loving that we're not rushing...i want to walk down the aisle with glee knowing that i'm doing the right thing and that we've done everything in our power to make our relationship healthy.

Tara12's picture

You sound so much like what I am going through right now! My FH has the BM that just can not go away. He has been brainwashed for 15 years and is just trying to keep the peace with BM even though he resents her for what she has done and hates her guts. We are now in counseling and start our first joint session this week. These guys are clueless. He needs to set boundaries with BM and hold the line there. My FH has been doing really well and has been keeping me in the loop on everything now. I feel though like he is just doing these things because I WANT HIM TOO - not because he wants to and that is part of this whole process that pisses me off. My FH acts like well if it doesn't bother me why should it bother you? That is how stupid he is. And that is why we are in counseling. Cuz BM has just become a way of life for him and even though it is crap that is the only thing he knows. I get pissed too and have had a couple big blow up fights with FH about this. Is it worth it - right now I don't know. I am a very strong person and never took crap from any man so my FH knows how serious I am on this now. I strongly suggest you both go to couples counseling and find someone who specializes in blended families. pm me if you want to vent - this sounds like the exact same crap I've been going through. Take care of yourself!

lil_teapot's picture

Ema that's so similar to what I'm experiencing here...this is really weird how they operate. I've heard that same crap from my dh that he's just trying to have some harmony in his life cuz he's sick of listening to himself talk...yeah, well I'm sick of having to tell him what to do, and have him not listen. I'm tired of having my feelings negated and have him say, it's not that bad, or it's getting better...point is, it could be fixed if he'd grow a pair and say hey, adulterer-lady, you DON'T live here anymore...you decided to scr*w the old guy in your building behind my back for 2 years before getting caught...and you got the rental house and a large lump sum settlement to buy you out of my house...what more do you want???!!! Get the hell out of my house!!! It's like, he didn't even have to be mean to her...he could have even said (for the sake of "harmony")--Oh, we're going to be around today, we can handle taking the dog for a walk, k? Bye{click}. But he chose to ignore my feelings as i'd expressed them to him for however many months and just let her do whatever she chooses to do. He tried to pull that crap on me too that 'old habits die hard' meaning that the ex hadn't gotten it yet...but i know she gets it she's just a b*tch.
How do you fight with your FH without falling apart? I can't do it without getting physically sick and feeling like I'm going to pass out.

frustrated like nobodies business's picture

gives you a mediator. we found someone who specializes in blended families also and after the first session we already left with so many great ideas on how to get the boundaries set. she asked him to think about a lot of things and he responsed SO WELL! i was really amazed. it's funny though she didnt say anything different from what i say at home but i guess when a third party says it it makes a difference for some reason. he can't wait until next week. i say hands down go to counseling and hold off on the marriage until you guys can find a common ground on the subject. we were constantly bumping heads on it and it's not like we ever fight about anything else. eventhough he saw where i was coming from he just didnt know how to turn things around. i guess it's just hard for them to change the habit of how they are used to dealing with BM. they don't know any better and when BM always says it's for FSD or puts FSD on the phone crying asking her dad why he told her mom no, it's got to break his heart but over the course of time BM will get it...i'm sure she'll still be a b*tch but as long as she knows she's got to take that crap someplace else because it's time for our happiness and FSD's happiness...her day is over. and like you she cheated on him...what more do these crazy women want? i guess whatever our SO's will give up...i told him his new motto should be JUST SAY NO...

lil_teapot's picture

not to react at all but i'm the kind of person where you can completely see my emotions in my face/body language. I really suck at hiding my feelings...good bad or indifferent.

you bring up a great point about your h being insecure and playing the divorce card. i readily admit that i am the one in our relationship to bail first. and i very candidly admit that i am terrified of losing him. i don't think i go out of my way to sabotage things but i think i'm afraid of happiness on some level, so i do tend to overanalyze things. that being said, i also know my dh has issues with NOT admitting these things...being afraid of losing me, afraid i'll cheat like ew, and the whole passive-aggressive thing.
The hard part is that he'll imagine i'm doing things (like packing up) for entirely the wrong reason (that I was bluffing). He's not good at actually SEEING the situation, whereas instead he kind of reads what he wants into it. When I packed my boxes, he read into it that I was bluffing, he could call my bluff and settle me down...there was no bluffing...for me it was me being done and unable to take anymore of the EW crap.
I'm going to try to not let him make me upset. I'll try to remain calm and not show him how upset I am...maybe that way I can get a read on him.
Thanks so much for the advice.