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SD and Hannukah

Jsmom's picture

We celebrate both holidays in this house and my husband does Hannukah for the kids. Each night they do the menorrah and he gives them a gift at the end. He starts small and by the 8th night they get their large gift. Well SD no longer has anything to do with this household. SS12 has been with us until this morning and he is back at his BM's for the next week. So he has gotten his gifts every night. BM has been doing things right lately and actually texted DH that she would bring SS back at 5:30 so he could do Hannukah here. DH refused to contact her and was leaving it up to SS if he wanted to come for the last three nights. Well, she texted on her own about this. I think his last email telling her off on being an ineffective parent, may have done some good.

Funny thing was SS12 told us that SD14 got her mom (not jewish) to get her a mennorah for her to light for Hannukah. Well, DH just said that is nice for her. We talked later and we both thought that ought to be an interesting lighting since she has no clue what she is doing. DH barely does and he is Jewish. I am sure that SD has manipulated her mother into doing it, so she can get some more gifts, since she is not getting them from her Dad. He said in front of SS that if she doesn't live here she doesn't get anything. SS12 could care less about her, but he is so cautious not to upset his Dad. DH also figured out that SS was not letting him go to an Open House that they were having this week at school, he went through his backpack and found the note. He figures it is because he doesn't want them together with him. I think DH should go. He doesn't want to, he figures SS12 would ask him if he wanted him there. BM mentioned in her text last night that she was taking SS and would get him from our house after Hannukah to take him. She wasn't telling him about it, she was telling him her plans. I think she is manipulating another situation with DH. But, not my kid, so it is not my problem. But, I still think DH should keep track of this one. I am sure BM will somehow portray down the road that DH does not care about school functions.

I am volunteering again at SS choir concert to prevent bullying for him. I forwarded her the email telling her about the concert so she attends. SS doesn't tell anyone anything. I am sure she is pissed that I am doing it again. She never goes to anything for SS, so I find it interesting that she is going to the showcase. Someone is trying to look like a good mom.

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RaeRae's picture

"Well SD no longer has anything to do with this household."

I'm sure there's a story behind this line. If my DD decided she wanted nothing to do with my household, she shouldn't come here expecting gifts, either.

That said, I think the dad should make more of an effort in his son's school, attending functions, etc.

Jsmom's picture

Huge Story...To be brief, she fought us all the time because we had rules and BM didn't. So SD14 turned 14 and went to a lawyer with BM and served us with CO modification. DH tried to fight it because BM is a horrible mom. She wants to be friends. We couldn't win according to lawyers so when she flipped out on him one night a few weeks later, he had her get her backpack and dropped her off at her mom. Since that night 8 months ago, she has taken to bullying my BS15 on the bus and harassing SS12. It has been a nightmare. The only good thing is she is not living here anymore. But, she still has an effect on our lives...

Jsmom's picture

He has given up doing anything that BM will be at. Now, if it is during our week, he goes to everything. He communicates with all the teachers and I even volunteer if it falls on our week. He said he doesn't want to cause SS anymore stress than he is already under. If he wanted him there, he would go. But, now he doesn't want any communication with BM and if she is there, she will see it as a sign that he is not angry anymore at her for all of this mess.

As for him saying that she is not getting anything. Why should she get any gifts? She wanted to leave and he gave her up because according to the lawyers he couldn't keep her if she didn't want to be here. She doesn't get to benefit from this. His comments and I completely agree with him. This little brat (yes - I said it) has caused us thousands in legal fees because of her not wanting rules. So as far as I am concerned that is where her Christmas and Hannukah gifts went. She can ask her lawyer for a gift...

Rags's picture

I completely understand your DHs perspective that if his daughter does not want to participate in the family then she does not get to drop in for a gift. Maybe he should send her a Hannukah card and a $10 gift card to Applebee's but as for getting the full meal benefit deal while not participating in the family or having a relationship with her dad .... no investment in the family then you get care and concern but no other family benefits.

Personally I don't consider this paying for a child's participation on the family. I see it as allowing the child experience the consequences of their decision and enforcing the opportunity for the kid to learn from her mistake. We are not talking about a young child here. We are talking about a 14yo who is trying to play in the adult end of the pool and should bear the consequences of jumping in with no floaties. When she is ready to use her head then dad should be ready to engage with her. Until then, he should stand back and let her swallow some water but be ready with the life ring if things get too bad.

IMHO of course.

Best regards,

Jsmom's picture

Rags you are on target as always. Although, he is not even sending her a card. I think the whole bullying my son on the bus, kind of did that in for DH. He has sent her 30 emails since August trying to communicate with her and she doesn't reply. Yes, there were also texts and phone calls that she ignored as well. BM accused DH recently of not reaching out to her. She was not aware that SD was not acknowleging anything.

I so want to yell at this kid, that you are screwing up here and your relationship with your father will never be the same. She created this reality and she needs to accept that. I am so tired of this girl creating drama and having no culpibility for it. She almost destroyed our marriage and I still feel like a PTSD victim from just living with her for a year...