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Toxic Feral Eldest wants to live with us!

CLove's picture

Its been ongoing arguing between mother and daughter, since Toxic Feral Eldest SD20 moved in to her mothers house in November 2018. Even when its ok, she still does damage, and still has the same crappy attitude, according to Munchkin SD12.

This last round, she was arguing about being asked to clean her room and the bathrom that she messed up with her newest hair dye extravaganza. I kid you not, she can make messes from water and a paper cup. Anyway, the whole thing stems from daughter making messes, and mommy asking please precious snowflake can you clean your sh!t up, or Ill toss all your things in the trash. This time, Toxic Feral Eldest did two things differently: she texted munchkin a bunch of standard text to transfer to mommy because mommy blocked her (lol), and then a text to DH. Instead of doing the logical thing, like when you are asking for something REALLY big, you ask nicely and sweetly, she launched into attack mode.

Toxic Feral:

"Daddy please can you put your daughter ahead of your wife for once? Can I please have my room back? You never have put me first, and I am your daughter. Mom always breaks my shit, and Im tired of buying new shit because mom always goes into my room and breaks mine. You traded mom, who is an alcoholic, for another alcoholic, and I had to live with her for 4 fucking years. Can I just have my room back? She couldnt even wait past December, before making it an office. Can you please put your daughter ahead of an office????"

DH responded with logic. "you and your mother fighting is just like you and me fighting like we used to, over you not wanting to clean up after yourself. Nothing has changed, Clove is still going to be here. If we are so terrible (she had previously launched into an attack on what a horrible father he was and how he abused her and her sister, which never happeend.) then why would you even want to live with us? Its going to be no different. And you only text me when you want something, not even for my birthday or fathers day. I invite you out to see you and you are too busy with your friends."

Good for you DH! He said no.

I also told him NFW (no effing way). I told him "I really dont care whose daughter she is, this house is half mine and I say no way, because she is hateful towards me, still calling me names, still saying horrible things about me - NFW. Not my child so not my problem." 

I have been thinking about this topic all weekend. Not really letting it spoil my wonderful time with DH and Munchkin - but mainly just ruminating. I get that family should stand by each other, and a parents love for THEIR child is unconditional. But when you join with a stepparent, that stepparent doesnt automatically fall under that "parent clause", do they? They stand by their SO's child because they WANT to, they CARE about this child, they LOVE this child, and if this child turns hateful on them, they are under no obligation.

I think its the same for parents, when the child turns extremely hateful. I would never DARE tell my parents what to do with their home. Its THEIRS. I would never DREAM of asking my parents to put me ahead of each other. This particular young adult seems to have bought into the whole "the children always come first in the family, for the parents!" That myth is in fact being taught in media and schools. I mean, yes, the childrens safety and health are a priority. But the children, especially as they get older are supposed to do for themselves. This girl is simply lazy. Doesnt feel like she wants to clean up after herself.

Its a strange day when Toxic Troll is the sane one, but she had a hand in creating this so I think they need to work it out wtithout DH.

DH said the same: "Child o mine, you need to work it out with your mother. Grow up. She loves you."

Yep, and even if she had been really sweet to DH, I would still have said NFW. Because Ima bitch llike that. So hate me.

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SteppedOut's picture

Un-freaking real. Seriously. Her behavior was terrible. Her bedroom, dispite asking her to clean it multiple times, was DISGUSTING. 

But the only reason she can't come back is "you are picking your wife over meeeee." 

And, she's 20. Exactly when is she going to grow up? Not like she is going to college and working and just can't feasibly afford rent, et. al. No. She just wants to do whatevs on her parents dime... forever if possible!

Glad your husband stood firm!

tog redux's picture

Unconditional love doesn't mean you let your toxic adult spawn move back into your house when you know it will be a disaster. It just means that you love them regardless of what they do - but not that you let them abuse and take advantage of you.

She's a piece of work. If she hates her mother and hates you, then she can move out and get an apartment of her own.

CLove's picture

He knows it, I know it and even munchkin said "no, dont let her come back". We are all in agreement.

He can love her all he wants, outside of our home. Our home is my sactuary, our sactuary. She shit all over it as a teenager, and now wants to come back and shit all over it again. Im like "how dare she call me names, say mean things, and then ask to be put ahead of me, and then ask to get her old room back."

Yeah, um no. Feck that.

ndc's picture

Good for you that your DH said no.  And I'm not sure why, at age 20, Toxic Feral's only options are mommy or daddy. Although I'm sure her hateful verbal spewage and chronic messiness would not endear her to a roommate.

You should make your DH really happy that he did the right thing. Smile

 

CLove's picture

in adult ways 

Exjuliemccoy's picture

Nothing subtle about TFE, is there? She's got some hard lessons to learn. Like for starters, don't burn your bridges. And, treat your parents' partners with respect and civility, because you may need their help one day.

Kudos to your DH for not putting up with her combative attempt at manipulating him.

CLove's picture

like her mother, likes cursing and  "gonna" not ging to college, really shows. she goes on attack mode, and it affects me then I wonder about DH. he is big man, with a sensitive streak. you know of course he thinks and hurts. it hurts all of us....and she just attacks. im like "fuck you" i dont hate anyone and I hate her and her mother. I have never felt so much hate, In my life.

thinkthrice's picture

a list of youth hostels.

CLove's picture

mo shes too proud and good. herr whole thing is she is too good. her mother thiinks that she is also too good,

CLove's picture

is not happy with her sister right now its too funny. she complains she lazy. Im like oh well...

shes got a bigger than that issue.

munchkin gets it. and shes got the ukelele too. she knows how to pillage the oom.

 

Harry's picture

Say NO.      Why do it again.  The results will not be different 

CLove's picture

Thats what DH said too. the same. no different. if we are so bad why change? logic. but she needs an escape hatch only. when she was 16-7 she did the same. i called her the boomerang kid, she didnt like something she moved, back and forth. dont change, just move! her parents were like ok. domt change just move. so she never had to change, they are what made her. 

Exjuliemccoy's picture

Letting kids ping pong between parents is a big pet peeve of mine. It gives them too much control and teaches them that they don't have to be accountable for misbehavior.

Your H's response was spot on. Marriage seems to agree with him, as his spine is getting much stronger.

Kes's picture

TFE asking to live with you after the way she's behaved is ludicrous.  She's been a legal adult for 2 yrs, old enough to make her own living arrangements.  

CLove's picture

But her brain is stuck at 15. No license and dead-end job, no college. Just no motivation to better herself. Why? Because she is already perfect!!!

yes, ludicrus isnt just a rapper anymore!

Chmmy's picture

Noooooo. She sounds like SD16. I am your daughter. God I cant wait until that bitch moves out. I'll rent her room so she cant come back!

CLove's picture

out to exchange student...to seal the "no", but now Im like "feck that I love my sanctuary room, how dare she think that she can manipulate her way back in". Get your own place. And did I mention that cockroaches were found in her room, along with bags of fast food and moldy dishes???? Yep.