DH not interested in me
DH and I had sex twice since I got pregnant, and I am almost in my third trimester. I think he is watching a lot of porn, but it would have to be at 4am when he gets up for work and there is no trace in his history. I get it, I understand it, and while I have major self-image issues, I am not mad or resentful over that right now (had been in the past).
Between being sick with first trimester issues and fear of another MC we waited a few weeks, then I had mono over five weeks, then we did it once and it didn't go to well and we gave up, then I had kidney stone, and I have tried a couple times, but he plays his online video game until 10:30 and has to go straight to bed. He isn't interested at all. He says he is fine and is worried about hurting it, but i don't know. I even recorded a HBO nudy movie (no I never did this before) and mentioned watching that with him and he chose to play his online game instead. Tonight, he is on the game at 7:30 and will be on it until 10:30. He wanted me to go watch TV in that room so we could "spend time together" with me sitting watching TV and him absorbed in his game. No thanks.
He is playing this online video game ALL DAY on his days off, I am not exaggerating, from the time he wakes up until the time he goes to bed, stopping to eat dinner and shit. If I get testy, he will watch a movie, but he is irritable and huffy and the second it is over he is GONE.
He swears he is't addicted to the video game and says "well, what do you want me to do there is nothing on TV, i can sit and stare at you I guess...". Yeah. WTF am i supposed to say. When I had kidney stone, he did dinner, dishes, and laundry, so I can't complain there. It's pulling teeth getting him to finish a project unless I am doing it too.
weekend off Fri, Sat, Sun, he played the video game 9am to 3am. I was writing down all his play times, but I stopped because it doesn't matter. He's a really good DH, and before this game came out after he quit the last one (that was just as bad if not worse as the only thing he did all day everyday besides work) it was great. He swore he wouldn't be addicted and prioritize the game over real life, but I feel like he really is.
I feel like it's going downhill. He needs to play for "stress relief" EVERY DAY ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT. I have talked to him repeatedly - HE PLAYED ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT ON MY BIRTHDAY AND I CRIED then he went and got me a card and dedicated FOUR HOURS the next Saturday away from his game to help me lay laminate flooring and bitched the whole time. They were supposed to help do deep cleaning with me for cleaning house (wash woodwork) but DH was BUSY on his game.
I mean, he's right, there is nothing on TV. We can't go do anything. What do I expect from him? It has taken over a month and he won't finish the floors until I do it and he's using that I can't get up and down and had kidney stone as why HE can't do it.
Other than that, like I said, he's an amazing, helpful, attentive DH, but he doesn't think he plays too much, and when that is all you do at home (unless demanded to watch a movie with dinner-then run play) it IS.
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This sounds really scary, to
This sounds really scary, to be honest.
I am glad you believe he is a good husband and that there is something right about your relationship to make you believe that about him.
From the outside, it looks like he is not a very good husband at all.
I LOVE VIDEO GAMES . . . and there is no way in hell I would prioritize them over my spouse or time with my spouse. I play video games when he is busy or when he has something else he needs to do.
If you hadn't insisted that he was a great husband, I would really assume he was just a selfish ass with a media addiction (porn, video games, etc).
However, since you seem really sure that he IS a good husband, maybe he is nervous about the pregnancy and is trying to avoid you as a way to avoid his anxiety about the pregnancy. Maybe . . .
Either way, it's not healthy. He should not just "check out" of the relationship because he is bored or unhappy or anxious.
The sex thing really worries me as well. I'm a 34 weeks in and DH and I are still just as active sexually as we were before. I know that is not the norm and many women end up feeling horrible and losing interest in sex. However, that is not the case here. You obviously want to be intimate with him and he is rejecting you. That's not okay. I have been in a relationship where sex was withheld before and while you tell yourself it is not that big of deal . . . it is a big deal. It is sending a VERY CLEAR MESSAGE about your worth, your attractiveness, and your place in the relationship.
I'd really suggest counseling if you want to stay in this relationship (which is sounds like you do). You need to find out what is going on in his head because none of his behaviors are okay.
I think OP said something
I think OP said something about not wanting "another" miscarriage. If they've lost a baby, it's entirely possible that DH "blames" himself for being selfish/having sex when she was pregnant. Many men worry about hurting the baby, and this one has lost a baby. I think that has the most to do with it at all.
OP, wait it out. You won't be pregnant forever. If after healing and all, things haven't changed, then it's time to do something about it.
i see the miscarriage issue.
i see the miscarriage issue. if that was the only red flag, i would not have interpreted his behavior so negatively. but it's not. he is neglecting the OP in every possible way, it seems, so far as intimacy is concerned.
if it really is just a miscarriage fear, maybe take him to your next visit with the obstetrician and have the doctor explain that unless there are other problems sex should not be an issue.
Ugh this sounds so much like
Ugh this sounds so much like my ex! Even when I was straight forward and truly wanting to know what in the world was going on with him, he would look at me blankly for a second or two and then BLAME something or someone else. I never figured out what was really going on.
In my opinion watching porn is fine so long as it doesn't interfere with your relationship. With my ex it did, He woke up super early in the morning for work, get his coffee, watch his porn, go to work, come home, no sex....and so on for 7 years with very little variation from the norm. He would lie about it..lying is the worst. I had put a tracker on his computer and even though he deleted the history and I wasn't awake I knew exactly what the little liar was doing. *big eye roll*
With the video games as well. Those are fine in moderation but ALL day? If you start going to do things on your own he will eventually come around. You won't even have to say anything. You can invite him to go with you, even if it is just a walk around the block. He will become jealous that you are spending time elsewhere or at the very least realize that he is alone in his game world. You might not be available to him when he is done playing his game for the day.
Ask for a compromise on the games throw out to him that he can play an hour a day and only compromise up to what you would be comfortable with him playing. If you two can come to an agreement on how much time can be spent..get a timer and set it.
Only other thing I can say is you have every reason to feel the way you do. No matter how much he may try to downplay his disconnection from you, don't think you are crazy! With my ex I had no choice but to chalk it up to him not loving me and I asked him to leave. He kept saying he loved me until both feet met the outside of the door, haven't heard from him since. So I assume I was correct.
He was amazingly attentive
He was amazingly attentive before the game was released at the beginning of September, so I am not going to trash talk him after nine wonderful years for the past two to three weeks obsession. I can't trashtalk him for the previous game online because I played it with him nonstop when he played it and often I played it when he was at work too, so that would be hypocritical of me to whine that he played the previous game too much.
We both quit the previous game stating we were getting sucked into it too much and agreed to quit. However, our gaming friends online moved to this new released game and he really wanted to try it since it is free-to-play (no monthly charge). We agreed to get it to play CASUALLY. Thus the problem arose; he started playing more and more and more until that last weekend he played 9am to 3am = now yes, he stopped and did a load of laundry, he washed the dishes, he took the dog out and fed the dog, he made me lunch, got be drinks, and he made dinner and did dinner dishes. So even though he played 9am to 3am, he did still take care of business (I was in bed with a kidney stone). He did stop and bring me water or pills and kept up the laundry and such, so as upset as I was that he was on it all day, I cannot just exaggerate and say he did nothing else or claim he is "inattentive", because even the worst weekend of his gaming, he DID still make dinner and do dishes and laundry and bring me stuff. He did still sit in the bathroom while I laid in the tub, hanging over the edge of the tub, patting my head for 20 minutes. -- of course that stuff didn't make it into the OP because I was mad and irritated and feeling insecure and just summed it up with "is attentive" (and I was in a hurry).
The good news is, of course, that he really was still attentive during that time. I just still felt/feel like it is becoming a top priority to him over other things because he "took a break from the game to do life stuff".
His argument is logical too, however, of "what else do you want me to do then? Its a stress reliever, I am good at it, it makes me happy, and there is nothing on the TV and we can't go do anything, so what else should I do other than sit on the chair staring at the wall or watching crappy TV?" - What can I say to that?
I don't expect him not to play, I just want him to be mindful of how much he is on that game and not to be on it every second he can get to it.
So we had a GREAT talk last night. He said he is going to put the game down for a few days and then he will go back to playing but will be mindful not to play EVERY NIGHT and not to play for multiple hours at a time. I was so happy.
We also talked about the possible porns and disinterest. Now, in the past, I went through some stuff with illness that I was just listless and uninterested. So I asked if it was "paybacks" or if he was just already satisified and found me unattractive.
DH said he was fine until the first ultrasound where the baby had a face. (This is true, we were active before that) He said he just gets sick and can't not see his baby's face right there where his penis is going and it freaks him out. Well, my thought (which was half of my being upset) was that he had SD so he obviously had sex with a pregnant woman before. He said that he never had sex with her after she conceived because she was sleeping with another man and he moved to the couch and lived like that for a year. He said it has nothing to do with my weight or appearance and that since seeing the baby's face, his sex drive has plummeted. He admits to the porn about three weeks ago and said before that maybe two or three times since we got pregnant. I feel like he was being honest and that makes me feel better too. I don't have a problem with porn use so long as its not addictive level and is not replacing me.
He said he just has not been in the mood at all, not even for looky-stuff since seeing the baby's face and it waving its hand at us. It creeps him out. He said he never went to anything with SD and never saw her ultrasound and was never with BM again so there was nothing for me to be upset about there, as far as thinking he did with her and not with me.
I am happy with our talk last night. I wanted to be fair and not say he was * inattentive or neglectful* since he really wasn't, I was just really worried (rightfully so) about how much he was playing this game. I don't mind him looking at porn stuff randomly so long as it is not all the time, which he swears it isn't and hasn't even thought about it in a while, and he has been honest about things with me, so I have no reason to doubt him.
If I had not blogged it first, I may not have handled the discussion as well, though I did cry I cry about everything right now.
We will see how this goes. I am not going to trash him for what has been going on since September 2012, 16 days. I DO get it , he is really under a lot of stress with bankruptcy during our pregnancy, then his job tried to fire him for not turning in "the right" paperwork to prove he was off for COURT - and the court said that was the only paperwork they had and they didn't do the letterhead stuff, and it took a week back and forth between job, union, and court to force job to accept the courts paperwork proof of court appearance, and we had to start thinking about converting our Ch13 to a Ch7 and possibly moving to an apartment and finding a place that accepts 80 lb dogs with behavior issues, and losing our insurance on the pregnancy, and we have to save up for carpet for the baby's room and SD was doing something really stupid on the facebook that we had to worry about - So I REALLY DO get why he was escaping into the game *I have to say kudos to him for still doing everything from the phone calls to the court appearance to the dishes to the laundry to the fixing the problem with the job rather than sticking head in the proverbial gaming sand* so I understand why he wanted to escape into the game where he was really successful and could feel good about himself as he killed other people's characters and won a lot.
All I thought was me me me why you sitting on the computer all weekend, and I have to stop and realize its more to it than that - not an excuse, but I can still be understanding and compromise.
So, he is putting it down a few days, then when he plays he swears he will limit the amount better and regulate it even if there is nothing else to do sometimes. He suggested we play board games with SD12.
He suggested that he is is going to to initiate intimacy and maybe do something other than that which freaks him out or just spend time cuddling and snuggling more.
We'll see how it goes, but I feel good about it and from the past nine years, I am confident he was being honest and will do what he says (we went through this when we both played the previous game and tried to play less and then just quit because I felt we were not able to limit it as much as we should and focus more on SD12 and being present and accessible to her in the evening, and he did that with no problem and stuck with it).
My DH wasn't interested in me
My DH wasn't interested in me at all once I became pregnant too. It's tough when you're feeling fat, and that just makes it worse. During my first pregnancy we only had sex maybe 4 or 5 times total. It got to a point where he couldn't even if he wanted to (we tried and it wasn't good!) He said his drive dropped so much, even porn wasn't doing it for him. We only had sex maybe 2 or 3 times after I had BS17months when I became pregnant again, and we only only had sex twice during that pregnancy! It was awful. Now our sons are 17months and 6 months, and we're just starting to have more frequent sex.
I do miss pre-baby sex, and can say it's not my fault we're not having it much anymore. I would say this is the only down side to having the babies, and something I didn't expect.
My DH also is "addicted" to anything online, whether it be games, FB, or adult sites. It's terrible when we put our bodies through so much having these babies, and they don't emotionally support us like they should. I hope your situation improves faster than mine!
And congrats...enjoy your baby!
Thanks! I can't complain too
Thanks! I can't complain too much about the sex since for two years he practically begged and was always interested, but I was suffering with severe depression and could sleep 18 hours (and DID a few times) and had NO interest and felt fat and ugly.
We had a great talk and tonight he didn't even mention logging into the game and instead he chose a show for us to watch after dinner, which we talked during dinner with SD12, then after the show we played a board game with SD12 and everyone helped clean up after dinner.
Yes, it did include my birthday in his online game addiction, and I said Just this september, but the game was released 8/25/2012 and he has played it nonstop *in free time* since release - he still works and cleans house and does dishes and everything he needs to do at least.
He swears to fix it now and apologized. He's worth working on things and compromising so long as he tries. I will NOT tolerate him going head-long into that game long-term, however, if he doesn't fix it. I want to work on it before it goes on so long that it is irreparable, we're pregnant, we're happy (except this playing the game too much thing), and I want to have hope.
He isn't addicted to adult sites at least. Just the game. And he didn't touch it today and promises to not play tomorrow and then to play LESS and focus more on other stuff. So right now, only time will tell.
I'm writing down when he logs in and logs out of that game from now on so that I can say as a fact its too much rather than it being debatable and also so I don't gloss over it and say "oh well he had nothing else to do" or he can't down play it if he starts playing it all the time again.
Please read my blog about my
Please read my blog about my porn addict DH. In the reading I have done since, I have learned that there is a huge issue in this country with internet addiction, whether it is porn or other. There are changes in brain chemistry that occur, and they mirror changes that happen to substance addicts. The way you feel is your real way to assess the reality of his addiction. My gut told me what internet history did not. Don't ignore it.