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And they are just amping up the crazy.... YSD this time

zerostepdrama's picture

Last night DH, BS and I are outside chilling on our patio. Getting ready to head in soon. YSD calls and asks DH if she can come over. It's 8:50pm. (Which I think is odd she is trying to bring a baby that is less then a week old outside at that time but whatever) DH says yes, meet me out back. (Where we were finishing up our beers and then would have headed in the house when she got there with the baby.) So we are waiting about 15 minutes pass (she lives literally 2 minutes down the road) and DH gets a text from YSD "Never mind, you don't even make an effort, I'm tired of trying with you. I'm done." :? :? So DH reads me the text and says "I just responded back with "OK" because I'm not writing some paragraph."

I can tell he is bothered and confused, just like I am. Well we head inside and I look on my phone and I have a message from her.

Here is what she wrote to me:

YSD:

I'm glad my dad has someone else that makes him happy in a way his OWN kids never will you ruined relationships between a father and his own blood him and MSD haven't even talked in over 2 years he still hasn't even met her second baby or my first. No...idk if you influence his decisions on that or if he really just doesn't care all on his own but the fact you let him says your still the same person I always thought you were which isn't a good one. But I guess my dad and relationship just ended so I wish you the best. PS either way you did marry MY dad not BS's and when I talk about you for whatever reason I've always called you my step-monster bc for you to be okay with him pushing his kids out shows how motherly you can really be doesn't it.
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So I respond back telling her I have no idea what is going on. We were all waiting and excited for her to come over and I have nothing to do with her relationship with her dad.

***
YSD:

BC he doesn't care for me to come and never has Ive been trying for 3 days to see him already and today if I want to not even yes come by let alone him telling me he wants to see me or the baby. And its not "easy" to blame you it just is what it is bc I've been here the whole time and I promise you he cared 80% more than now which is 0 before he met you even in the beginning of you guys he cared then it just stopped.

****

So I tried to explain to her, again it's between her and her dad. But she was to realize he has a different life now. He's busier with work, he does side jobs, he has a house to take care of. I told her, sometimes I don't even see him until 9 pm. I also told her, I am his wife and he does have a life with me and if we all don't get along that there is going to be a separation.

***

YSD:

BC it is you. now my dad makes no effort.. at all period bc of you. But whatever and no my dad doesn't get excited about me or any of us maybe my brother which their relationship better not change. But again whatever I'm a grown up right I should be able to handle it and ignore it. Thins is I have been and now I'm snapping. And this isn't a back and fourth thing I just wanted to let you know directly where we stand now bye

Then she blocked me from Instagram which is how she was messaging me.

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I'm sure she is influenced by OSD and the FB stuff that happened the other day. Again... totally confused by why they keep thinking I am responsible for how their dad responds to them.

It sounded like when she called she wanted him to be like "YES COME OVER CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU GUYS!" Just like OSD she is wanting him to chase after her and give her responses that as her dad and as a man he is just not going to give her.

She asked him the day she had the baby (Friday) if he would come and visit. Then she texted him on Tuesday but he left his phone at work, then she called last night and he said to come over.

I almost wonder if it was a set up??? Because why would she even think it is okay to come out that late with a baby less then a week old. Like she was expecting him to say no or ignore her and then she was going to send that text and that message to me?

DH is of the mindset that if I would just accept his kids shitty behavior everything would be better. I told him instead of thinking that... maybe he needs to think if his kids didn't treat his wife so shitty maybe things would be better.

I made it VERY clear that him ignoring the bullshit and putting his head in the sand hasn't been working for 6 years and if he doesn't start setting them straight that he isn't going to have a relationship with them or the gkids at all and he is going to regret it.

I seriously thought things would get better with YSD aging out and having her own kid. Not sure why they are all amping up the crazy.

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hereiam's picture

DH says yes, meet me out back.

He said, "Yes," what the f^ck is her problem?

Definitely trickle down from OSD's bullshit. Now they are just ganging up on you guys and making it so obvious. Your DH really needs to have a sit down with them and set them straight.

She thinks you're not a good person because you don't force your husband to have a better relationship with them? How is that your responsibility?

People need to manage their own relationships with family members. Nothing good comes from someone outside of those relationships trying to force things. It almost always backfires.

zerostepdrama's picture

I think she wanted DH begging to see her and the baby.

And agree not my responsibility. How am I the ONLY one responsible for their relationship but they themselves aren't responsible?

nengooseus's picture

If she just had the baby, my guess is that the crazy is amping up as a result. During a pregnancy, everything is rainbows and puppies and delusion, and once the baby comes, the crazy starts. New mom is angry that everything isn't magically working the way she thought it would, hormones are off the charts, and everything is strange and wrong.

I don't know who your SD is associated with, but this could be fueled by BM (she's a PAS queen, isn't she?) or just from the chaos of having a new baby. And once that stuff starts, it's contagious through families. "OMG, Dad should be here, but he's with Zero! She's awful for taking him away. OMG, did you hear what she did?"

I would avoid that drama like the plague. They may settle down on their own, or your DH may get weak and cower back to them, like he's done something wrong. But it's all irrational.

zerostepdrama's picture

Bright- her baby daddy is in boot camp right now. So I am thinking she wants DH to be surrogate daddy. I'm sure she is overwhelmed with just how hard it is taking care of a baby.

zerostepdrama's picture

Yes

zerostepdrama's picture

Yes I think some of it was hormones. So I was trying to be very kind in my responses back. I told her, we were waiting for you. We were all excited to see you.

I think it is being fueled by BM and OSD. YSD is living in BM's boyfriend's basement. Her baby daddy is in boot camp for the Air Force. She's alone. Her dad isn't kissing her butt. She sees that he is happy and living his life. I mean her first statement in that message was she's glad her dad has someone else to make him happy :? :? :? Why wouldn't she be happy that he is happy? Does she think she is the only one to make him happy?

Acratopotes's picture

Zero - why aren't all these numbers not blocked on your phone, why can the skids contact you?

zerostepdrama's picture

Well OSD's drama was through FB which she is now blocked.

YSD and I "followed" each other on Instagram. Last year this time she sent me a request, I ignored it. She sent me another request so I accepted it. Took it as maybe her reaching out. So we have been "civil" (though rarely interacting with each other). As of last night I thought things were "fine" between us. She blocked me on Instagram now after she sent her messages and I blocked her on Facebook, just to be safe. And they don't have my phone number so I should be good there.

Acratopotes's picture

I will never unblock Aergia, never ever even if she turns around and becomes a loving sweet girl..

sorry not unblocking you }:)

Monchichi's picture

You're so grumpy, let a grudge go. One day she might actually be a nice young woman and not what she is now.

Acratopotes's picture

still not unblocking her sorry....

formative years of a child is between 1-7... and she's been this way since she was 5.....
thus what ever else she becomes will only be for a small while till she got what she wanted or can't fake it anymore..

zerostepdrama's picture

Me too! But for me, I'm done. It's my choice. It's not a big deal, no love loss on either side.

Let me break done my interactions with YSD in the past 4 years.

Summer 2013- saw her at dinner with DH, BS and MSD. She was rude and wouldn't talk to me.

October 2013- Our wedding, she didn't acknowledge me

Christmas 2013- Dinner with DH, MSD, BS, SS. She ignored me until MSD left then she talked to me.

April 2016- Came by with her BF to have DH fix something with his car, saw her 2 seconds a quick hi.

July 2016- saw her in Wal-Mart. A quick Hi, how are you?

August 2016- sent me IG request, I ignored, sent me another one, I accepted.

March 2017- She shared prego picture on IG, I sent her message congratulating her. She thanked me.

June 2017- I send her baby gift.

**** So really no loss, no biggie. Back to acting like each other doesn't exist.

zerostepdrama's picture

I agree with everything that you said.

He cares... he's just lazy... and if they make it more difficult for him (with drama, fighting, etc.) then it makes him push away more.

And I understand their hurt with how he responds to them or lack of reaction for certain things. I have tried to help him with that before just to be met with "they are fine" so I gave up. It's not my job to manage his relationship with his kids.

*** Before you came along they probably freely came and went, he probably still put forth the no level of effort, but they didn't realize it bc they were able to come and go.***

^^^ This is 100% how it was.

And agree about my BS. He makes more of an effort because I demand it and because he lives with BS.

Willow2010's picture

DH says yes, meet me out back.
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Is there any reason DH did not invite her in the house? I mean, she was coming over with a one week old late so maybe she thought she would be invited in to sit a bit.

Honestly, your DH sounds like he was a neglectful father to his bios. And you posting what a great father he is to your, bio only fanned that flame to an inferno. And you know I love ya Zero, but you I feel you knew exactly what you were doing when you did that. I just feel the DH wishes that everyone would not try to take up HIS precious time…especially his bios. That is why they contact you. They know you will respond. They know DH could care less to respond with anything other than a short answer.

JMHO, and what I gather from over the years.

I get it, they are crazy, but I have seen the damage a distant and neglectful father can do to his kids. If I were you, I would just stop responding to any of them. Let DH handle it all.

zerostepdrama's picture

I did tell her, we were out back and that is why he said to come out back. I mean for all she knew he was in the middle of working on something out back and needed her to come out there so he knew she was at the house and then they would have went inside.

If that was her reasoning for going off on me, then she made an assumption and was wrong, not my problem.

I have posted things before about BS and DH with no response from the skids. (why would they?) Not sure why me posting on Monday set them off. But the fact is, DH is my husband and BS is my son and I am not going to hide the fact that they have a relationship because his kids are too immature to understand. I didn't even think about his kids when I posted the picture collage on Monday. Like why would I?

Agree that DH is selfish with his time.

I am definitely done responding to them.

zerostepdrama's picture

Cluster F*ck is exactly what it is.

I understand her wanting her dad to show more of an interest in the baby but this is grand kid #5 (with one more on the way) in just 4 years. They know DH isn't a sentimental person. They know he doesn't make a big deal out of things. Yeah it sucks, but he's always been that way.

TwoOfUs's picture

I don't understand these skids who insist on having Daaadddeeeeee chase them and beg them for some time...roll out the red carpet for them? I don't treat my mom that way—and I go see her frequently and always with something in hand. A coffee. A book I know she'll like. She lost my dad 10 years ago at 49...after a 10-year illness that decimated her finances. So, like...I know she's busy with work and managing their huge, 5-bedroom house / fixing it up so she can sell it and downsize and doesn't have time to arrange cool things with me every week or to entertain me. I just want to see her, so I make it fit HER schedule and her needs. Last week, her sisters were over / staying the night with her before they all headed out on vacation the next day. I dropped by with some wine & cheese and set up a little spread for them. They were playing a 4-person card game and it was clear that they wanted some sister time, so I put out the food, said some polite hellos...stayed about 30 minutes and then took off and let them have their time. You know how that made me feel? THRILLED that my mom has such a tight group of sisters who take care of her and some company as a young widow.

My skids are the same, though. Any time they hang out with us they want to know what WE are going to do for THEM. I don't totally mind it since they're still very young adults (21, 19, 17). But, man. It would be nice if even ONCE they brought something with them when they come over for dinner or offered to do something (even something very small like a coffee) for US. I just don't get how kids are raised these days...it's all about them and their needs all the time...even when they're adults...

zerostepdrama's picture

I think part of their problem is that they just don't realize that relationships evolve and change. They do want DH to chase after them. I think a lot of their frustrations come from them not getting the reaction from DH that they want. I totally get it. I used to feel the same way about him. He is a man of very few words. I learned over time that I had to communicate differently with him and learn to not get upset when he doesn't respond how I think he should.

He was like this before I was even in the picture. I remember asking MSD if it upsets her when her dad doesn't respond right away when she texts and she said yes it does. I felt sorry for them. DH doesn't see it as a big deal.

zerostepdrama's picture

Agree! He's the type of father that thinks as long as he is "there" and takes care of things financially that he is doing a good job.

He was raised VERY poorly, so he thinks since he is doing better then his parents that he is doing okay. He truly gets confused with how I parent and how involved I am with my BS.

Willow2010's picture

Not sure why me posting on Monday set them off.
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Because the day before on sunday, the skids sent a passive agressive text to DH to enjoy "his new son". Meaning your bio.

Then the very next day you post a collage of how great of a father DH is to your son and make sure to tag DH so the all the skids see it. lol.

Willow2010's picture

Yes...I thought that is what you said on your post the other day. :?

If not, then I take back you doing it on purpose to start drama. lol. But I thought you knew about the text when you posted on FB.

zerostepdrama's picture

Agree with all of that.. but it is what it is. She put herself out there to look like a victim and make me and DH look bad on my post, so instead of getting sympathy she got her ass handed to her. Maybe next time she will think about what she puts out there in public.

If anything maybe all this mess will get people (skids, DH) thinking about their relationship more and what they need to do to fix it.

WalkOnBy's picture

Yep - don't want your ass handed to you by strangers for being an entitled bitch? Don't put your shit out there on FB for all to judge.

Ignoring is usually the best way to go, but sometimes, like the situation you found yourself in the other day, payback is a mothertrucking bitch!!!

zerostepdrama's picture

I felt like this was finally my positive karma. LOL. But really her first comment, then I commented and I thought if nothing else is said I will delete these 2 comments. Buuuuutttt since she wanted to keep going... Shit if you don't want to be made to look like a fool then don't say anything. AND she could have deleted her own comments... but she didn't because she likes the drama.

Maxwell09's picture

Her hormones are probably sky high right now after just having s baby so I bet whatever little droppings of hate and alienation OSD has been leaving is starting to manifest themselves. I think there's probably a part of her that knows she's being unreasonable making this into something it's not (him saying yes then acting like he said no) and blaming you for it. From my POV she's blaming you for his lack of enthusiasm which is even more ridiculous than blaming you for their relationship going to shit.

momjeans's picture

Yes! This.

I was going to point this out too. Not an excuse by any means, but I'm sure it's elevating the emotional drama.

zerostepdrama's picture

Agree and that is why I was trying to make YSD feel better like "we were waiting for you. We were excited to see you and baby." etc. Yeah initially I was/am pissed off with what she said. At the end of the day though, what she said isn't any surprise or the first time I have heard that. It's how she feels, I can't change that. I know it's her own problem and not my problem.

secret's picture

"Why would your dad be enthusiastic about spending time with someone who treats his wife like crap? I'm sure not enthusiastic with someone who treats my husband like you do...in fact... I don't spend time with them at all."

zerostepdrama's picture

Ha! Like they would ever understand that. Shoot DH thinks I should just take their abuse and be okay with it because he does. I'm like You love them. I don't. I wouldn't let someone that I loved/liked talk to me like that, why would I be okay with it from someone who I have no bond/relationship with. Just because they are your kids? Nope. Sorry.

zerostepdrama's picture

I'm having a hard time trying to get him to understand that. "Funny" thing though is he would NEVER be okay with my BS treating him or me that way. But thinks it's okay with his kids because they don't live with us. :?

momjeans's picture

I agree. It sounds like it was a trap to test DH's reaction to the idea of her coming over, with baby in tow, etcetera. I also agree that her emotions are already heightened, and ready to spring, after seeing that FB interaction the other day.

These daughters of his. They have some serious emotional issues. Having said that, they cannot deal with the fact that you choose to not take part in it. They need a villainous scapegoat in their story, and they're bound to make that person you.

But, you're a smart cookie and already know this, Zero.

I live this within DH's family. Swap out SDs for my MIL and it's never ending blame game, woe is me, there weren't problems until you came on the scene, drama. Cry me a freaking river, I say.

zerostepdrama's picture

Yeah I do think it bothers them that I blow them off and push it back on their dad. They want me to make it a bigger deal. Yes I vent here and talk about it and fill everyone in but in my real life what they do doesn't affect me. (Though I was a little crazy with YSD graduation/SIL visit, that was my anxiety through the roof and I probably could have used a Xanax lol)

I wish things were better. But they aren't and I have accepted that.

ETexasMom's picture

This sounds exactly like the messages my adult steps used to send me! I say "used to" because I quit responding. If they want to throw a hissy fit I refuse to engage. I send them to DH or ignore! DH used to say "y'all need to stop" and lump me in with them whenever they were throwing hissy fits instead of telling his kids to stop. I realized once I stopped adding fuel to the fire and removed myself from their crazy fights then he couldn't ignore their behavior. From now on if I get any crazy from the steps I hand DH my phone and tell him to respond however he saw fit.

The change was amazing not only with myself but DH. Since I was not saying anything back the steps couldn't twist what I said and come out looking like a victim. Dh had to focus on what they were doing because I wasn't responding there was nothing for him to defend from their side. Also it helped me mentally. Once I was done "defending" myself against crazy accusations I didn't worry about what they said or did anymore because honestly it has nothing to do with me. Both your DH and his children are too lazy to work on their relationship and throw you under the bus because it's easy to blame you then to grow the hell up. Last thing I said in a fight with the steps was DH was a grown ass man with his on phone and car if they had issues seeing him that was on him not me. And that's true for your situation too but all the adults including your DH are blaming you because your an easy out.

zerostepdrama's picture

Oh I don't plan on responding anymore and they are totally blocked out of my life so I shouldn't have to worry. And yes it would have probably made things better to not defend myself against them but I get so tired of looking like the bad guy. But I need to realize that no matter what I say they aren't going to see my pov.

ETexasMom's picture

I know exactly what you mean! I got tired of being trashed online, at church, and to their families. It almost wrecked mine and DH's marriage because I was always on the defensive and felt he should have been the one defending me. We've been together over 10 years and it was only 2 years ago I removed myself from the fighting since that time I have minimum contact with the Steps and leave it to DH to deal with them. It's been awesome. They haven't changed that much but the relationship with DH and I have. I realized they don't have power over our marriage and DH and I are a team that I don't have to defend.

zerostepdrama's picture

Yeah it used to be a lot worse and a lot of going back and forth and bickering. The past 3 years (and definitely the past 2) DH and I have really come into our own relationship and their existence really mattered less and less in regards to our marriage. I try to look at them like friends of DH's that I may not like but that I won't stop him from having a relationship with.

Jlbfinch's picture

The daughters need to get in therapy to process their childhood of an angry foul mouthed mother and a father who checked out and hid at the bar. Then probably cut both parents out of their lives forever.

zerostepdrama's picture

She texted him around 7:30ish on Friday with a pic of the baby and announcing her birth. He had been drinking. Visiting hours would be over soon. Saturday morning/afternoon he had a side job already lined up then she went home that evening. (That is why I am guessing why he didn't go up to the hospital). Plus he probably didn't want to see BM.

Now since she has been home... not sure why he hasn't made more of an effort and I agree it probably does suck. I think he is having a hard time accepting that HIS BABY had a BABY and she isn't the innocent little girl that she once was.

WalkOnBy's picture

and then there is my daughter - who will be delivering next Friday.

She only wants me, DH and her MIL/FIL to visit at the hospital. She would much rather have folks come to the house once she and the baby get home. She doesn't want a bunch of folks crammed into her hospital room Smile

I don't blame her - and with the way new mamas and babies are pushed out of the hospital so quickly, it makes more sense to let them relax at the hospital and deal with everyone else once they get home.

zerostepdrama's picture

DH just doesn't get excited about these things. This is grand baby #5. He knows YSD is going to have a hard life now that she's a mother. She just graduated, lives in the basement in BM's boyfriends house, didn't have a job before she got pregnant, doesn't have any future plans other then the baby.

momjeans's picture

I truly believe some people just don't get all the feels - and that's just who they are.

I didn't want anyone, other than DH and our 18 month old, visiting me at the hospital post c-section. If my mom were still alive, she would have been allowed in too.

Hell, my MIL tried to back out of watching our 18 month old THAT morning, because she was biffed I didn't want her or FIL or skid there the moment I rolled out of the OR and into recovery.

I came >>this<< close to driving my damn self to the hospital and going it alone - without DH present.

On the flip side. It just goes to show that you (general "you") can have all the happy and interested parties at your disposal for life events. Still doesn't mean they're welcomed or wanted there.

hereiam's picture

Going to see mother and baby at the hospital is not always a joy and can be a lot of drama, with all kinds of people coming and going.

We went to the hospital when my SD had her first born. She promised DH that she would make sure BM was not there but of course, she was. It didn't bother me in the least but DH gets a case of PTSD, of sorts, when he is around BM, she did some really awful things to him.

Then SD's husband showed up, and some of his family (which BM had already told them what an awful person/father DH is), BM put on a big show, it was truly awful and uncomfortable. Never again.

SD had her second kid in a different country but if she ever has a third kid, there is no way we are going to the hospital.

zerostepdrama's picture

Given what he already had going on, what time she texted him, and the possibility of BM being around I can understand why he didn't see her while in the hospital.

She really should be worrying more about her baby that is less then a week old instead of her dad not responding properly or her dad seeing her in the time frame that she made up in her head or arguing with me over her dad not being around like he should.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

What a crock! Stepparents get the blame because we are the scapegoats. We could be all sunshine and light, put on our June Cleaver pearls and Stepford wife dresses and be all Martha Stewart-y, fart unicorn glitter and have rainbows come out of our ever-smiling mouths while we offer up their favorite treats on a sterling silver platter and we would STILL be the reason skids have a bad/non relationship with bioparent.

They are COD. Boo-fackin-hoo.
They are scarred for life. Waaaaaahhhh.
Being a COD means they are SOOOO fragile and bring an airplane full of baggage to any romantic relationship. Sob.

So it's the stepparents fault that:
* Skids have a poor relationship with bioparent
* Skids don't feel welcome
* Skids romantic relationships fail because their parents divorced
* Skids don't see bioparent as often as they want (meaning, bio should forever be at their beck and call).

SD21 pitched a freakin' hissy fit because DH had the NERVE to not be home on Father's Day when she stopped by. IOW, when he is not at work and it is not a skid weekend, he should obviously be sitting at home PINING for his children.

FFS

zerostepdrama's picture

Evil SMs }:) }:) }:) }:)

stepadvice's picture

I get how she may feel. My father sounds a lot like your husband. The issue is I know how my father is and do not take it out on his SO. I actually just had a fight with him last week about him not responding to certain life events or making assumptions about me. He is just lazy and expects us (myself and siblings)to handle the relationship. I.E. make all the plans. He has gotten a little better and I actually think it may be do to his SO but I don't know for sure.

She is probably hurting and wanting a different kind of relationship with her father. Not sure how old she is but maybe she can have talk with him and tell him how she feels. Granted this has never worked for me as he may be stuck in his ways. She will just have to come to terms with how he is and either accept him for who he is or decide how much she wants him a part of her life. That is hard to do. I still struggle with it.

She should not be taking her anger out on you. Though she probably feels you are an easy target. This has nothing to do with you but with your DH. Good for you for standing up for yourself.

zerostepdrama's picture

Oh I totally get it. This is how it ALWAYS has been. I remember once I started seeing it, I would think WTF how do they function like that?

They are all old enough (and clearly have no problems expressing their feelings) to talk to their dad about it. I am not sure why they don't. Instead they just send passive aggressive texts. Then send me rude messages.

zerostepdrama's picture

I just think this is their normal. If they all sat down and had a discussion they would realize that I'm not the problem, that it's up to them. But hey- they don't want to do that. That would mean that they have to take responsibility for their actions.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

Which is why it's easier to lay the blame on the stepparents instead of taking responsibility for their own behavior. Buttheads.

zerostepdrama's picture

I get what you are saying, I really do.

The way I look at it. I tried for a good 2 years to only be met with bullshit. Personally for me I had to distance myself. That is the only way I was going to be able to survive. Remember this isn't 1 skid, this is 3 GIRLS and BM.

I get what you are saying about having them over but I don't agree with that. And it's not just because of the skids but because of DH too. He can not be trusted to back me up if they do something in the home. He has proven that to me time and time again. So it's not I don't like the skids and they hurt my feelings so I don't want them over but it's they have proven that they will steal from me, they will put their hands on me, they will get in my face and DH won't back me up. I can not risk having them in my home making things worse then they already are. They have proven time and time again with their behavior that they don't respect me or my home.

Agree about the "out back" comment. But it is what it is. We were sitting out back. She might have taken it the wrong way and given her hormones, etc. I can see why but she made an assumption and blew up. I didn't think twice about it. Just that she would come over and we would head inside.

I used to plan stuff and encourage him to make plans, etc. That was met with resistance from both of them. Why should I care more then he does? It was soooo frustrating when I tried. Honestly when I stopped is when things with his kids got worse.

DH is a lazy parent and he's not seeing that he needs to do more. But the skids ignore DH just as much as he ignores them. OSD was back in town for 3 months and didn't get a hold of DH. He finally got a hold of her. I think they are both in the wrong. That is how their relationship has always been. But the skids want to play victims when DH doesn't play the game right.

Both OSD and YSD said that I need to do more to foster their relationship with their dad. I'm so confused by that. It's like they want me and DH to put in the work to make it work. But they don't see what I have done in the past. They dont see where I have encouraged DH to be a more active parent.

When YSD sent DH the text that she had the baby, I am the one who was like uhhhhh are you going to respond back to her? He wasn't even going to respond back. I encouraged him to do that because I felt bad for her.

I have done my fair share. When is enough enough? Yes there is lots of bad blood and feelings and that probably wears off on DH. But come on... if he would just man up and set some boundaries and explain to his kids why he does what he does. Or explain to them, they can't treat people like shit and expect to get good results.

zerostepdrama's picture

Oh he blames me too. Dirol He thinks if I would just deal with their behavior then it would be fine. Seriously. He thinks they are "just kids" and that they are jealous and immature and I should take that into consideration when they treat me like crap. Because they aren't around that often and don't live with us. Because if I wouldn't make things so difficult and if I would just be the door mat then everything would be okay.

And agree-I shouldn't have to hide the fact that they have a relationship. I mean they are family too! BS says he has 3 parents. Me, DH and his Dad. DH and BS are MY family. Just because BS isn't DH's doesn't mean that we aren't a "real" family.

My dad and SM post pictures all the time of them with their family (adopted sister and her sister). I don't get mad. Why would I? I know (and have since I have been 18) that my dad has another life away from the life he has with my sister and I. I love him, happy he's happy, happy my SM and AS are happy.

NoWireCoatHangarsEVER's picture

Can I cattily and nastily say I hope your YSD isn't planning on home schooling as her own grammar is certainly lacking?

Livingoutloud's picture

When my SDs behave this way (they are estranged from each other so they don't join forces, they do it separately) DH says "here it starts again, three ring circus, I will be watching it from side lines". Because DH refuses to engage in drama, SDs get tired and behave, well until the next time.

My favorite story was when OSD had a baby (no father in the picture) she moved out of state and lived with some random people on and off. She was mad that DH would not fly to help out with the baby.

Well the obstacle was that OSD didn't have any kind of permanent address and had some random people she lived with. No one knew where she lived. DH kept asking for her address because he didn't even know which airport to fly to (large state)and where to book a hotel.

She refused to provide the address or while complaining how daddy is a neglectful grandparent.

She then drove to our state with no warning and called in the middle of the night telling him she is here and demanding daddy go see her at some friends she was staying immediately. He was unable to because he was at work. She then posted all over the place how he needs "to step up his game" and how because baby has no daddy she needs her dad. My DH is a very loving man and wants to be involved but not under the circumstances when it's impossible.

Things are better now but OSD still periodically demands he "steps up his game" which always means meets some very ridiculous unrealistic demands!

zerostepdrama's picture

DH always says "they act just like their mother". Ok DH that isn't a good thing and that should make you realize why I don't want to be around them.

Livingoutloud's picture

Same here. DH says they act like their BM. I believe it. Luckily they aren't nasty to me. Don't know if it will last. I don't hold my breath

SacrificialLamb's picture

I know that at some point I likely will have OSD send me a text or email accusing me of the same things. I was very interested in reading opinions here. She never valued anything that I did, gave her Dad all the credit, did things to snub/embarrass me, tried to get DH to leave me. I disengaged and stopped planning DHs visits, so he visits less, and he gives crappy presents since I stopped the gift buying. So I know a meltdown with the finger pointed at me is coming.

I like the response that DH is an adult with a phone and a car, you, OSD are in your 40's so the two of you should be able to work it out. And nothing more.

DH's parents rarely travelled anywhere to visit him or the grandkids when they were young. But OSD has a much higher expectation of what her father should be doing for her and her children.

OP, I would not communicate with these skids at all until you see they have a healthy, age appropriate relationship with their father than is free of manipulation and subsequent punishment. I also realize that may never happen. If they don't have that with their father, they sure never will with their father's wife.