I just can't seem to let this go.....Is this normal??? Help
I am new to this site, and am so happy that I can finally get everything all out, since the SK issue is something that's on my mind every single day, and there is no one I can really talk to about it.
I am married to a wonderful man. We have a great relationship and I would deffinately say that he's my best friend. Things get very strained though when it comes to his daughter who is 6, going to be 7 in a few months. I have had one heck of a time with this situation, going back and fourth between dealing okay with it to being at the end of my rope. He has a completely b#tchy, nasty, vindictive ex gf (the BM). SD6 is also very whiney, clingy, bratty and rude. I have dealt with BM in the past texting him unecessarily (one such time a few years ago texting him at 9 in the morning while she was on vaca in VA with her new bf telling him that she "just wanted to be a family" and blah blah blah. Okay, so where the heck did that come from? I asked him what conversation she was referring to in the text, and he said they were just talking about the kid. He also would get texts from her asking him to come over and fix things with the house. Are you kidding me? When she found out we were engaged, the court papers started flying in to try to make us miserable. She has accused me before of erasing texts out of her phone from her (not true) and more rediculous crap. On our honeymoon, she called to ask what health problems ppl on his side of his family had. Couldn't ask him before we left? Really?
Okay, so there was one incident in particular when we first got together that I have not been able to get out of my mind and I get angry about out of nowhere. Our first Christmas as a couple, a few months into our relationship, but both agreed an exclusive relationship, I was visiting my family for the holidays. He informed me that he was going to be staying the night at his mother's house x-mas eve and would be celebrating Christmas out there (about an hour away). I spoke with him Christmas Eve and Christmas day as well as via text. So, throughout our relationship I continued to think that's what actually happened.
Well, about 2 1/2 years into our relationship, we were living together and engaged. We were cleaning out the closet in our bedroom. He had a locked briefcase with random old papers for work in it, as well as a video tape....I thought hmmmm strange to have a tape locked in there? So I asked him what was on it, he said it was his daughter's first Christmas. I thought it was still strange to have it locked up, so when he went to his father's later that day with his daughter, I decided to take a look at the tape. And what do you know? Was not his daughter's first Christmas, she was obviously some years older, and this was that Christmas we were together where he told me he had spent those two days with his mother. WELL, thanks to the videotape, it shows that was NOT the case, he actually spent it at BM's house with the kid and BM. Then, on Christmas day the videotape shows that he was with them again at BM's mother's house. Okay, my blood was boiling at that point, he had lied BIG, but to make matters worse, he starts videotaping the BM (they were NOT together at this point, we were, or so i thought) and calling her "honey, sweety, etc" and actually even bought her presents. WTF?
So when I saw the whole video, I was so pissed I was shaking. If there's not one thing in this world I hate more, it's a liar. I immediately called him, told him he needed to head straight home. So he did, and when he got back and I questioned him about it, he played dumb. I was so offended that he thought I was that gulible, that I told him I was leaving ( I was not yelling because the SD was right there). So, of course, the SD starts throwing a tantrum, and he scooped her up like I was some sort of monster and told ME to get out. I was like are you freaking serious right now? You messed up and YOU are asking ME to leave?
Okay, so I know this is getting really long, I'm sorry. But I ended up leaving and spending the night at my mother's. We met up the next day after the SD left. Finally, I got him to sit down and watch the video and got him to admit where he was. Although, he swore up and down that he never kissed the BM, or did anything with her and claims he never spent the night with her. He went on and on about how he did it "all for the kid" and they just wanted the kid to see her parents getting along, blah blah blah. Although I never really bought the story, I tried to trust him and give him the benefit of the doubt and move on with him. We are now married for about 1 1/2 years, but this incident still plagues me. I obsess about it all the time, and wonder what really happened those two days, since he still sticks to the original story. I still get bitter and upset about the whole situation from start to finish and wonder if he will try to pull crap like this in the future with " for the sake of the child" bullsh*t. It's driving me crazy stressing about it all the time, and I do not trust the BM as far as I can throw her. I'm not sure what to do?
Of course you're still
Of course you're still obsessed by it!!!! Because I think you know deep down that there may be more to the story than he told. And, you're right, that was a BIG lie he told you. A real violation of trust. I would guess that you've never been able to forget it because you really didn't deal with it. I'm with you on something else too... i JUST CAN'T STAND BEING LIED TO!!!!!
You poor thing, this must be driving you nuts. Wish I could offer something smart that would help. I think couples counseling might help if he's willing to go. Then you might be able to really put it in the past.
Thank you for your reply
Thank you for your reply stepgin
. You know, what drives me really nuts is just the nature of lying about it, and scooping up his kid and telling me to get out like i was some sort of monster for being upset and shaken (which i never understood, because even though I don't care for her, i would never ever do anything to hurt her and never gave him a reason to think so). And, I know something else went on, or else he would have told me the truth. I can't help but bring it up from time to time, I even sadly enough have nightmares about it, as silly as it sounds. Then I just wake up upset and it throws off my whole day....He gets defensive if I bring it up, and says its rediculous that I still do since "nothing happened". I just can't help it. For that reason, I know unfortunately he wouldn't be open to counseling...it's very frustrating.
It's the lying, sneeky
It's the lying, sneeky behavior that ruins everything for everyone. I have this problem with my H as well and things I can't seem to let go of either. Once they lie to you, you start second guessing everything. Often they just lie to avoid confrontation. Even if your H had been up front with you about his xmas plans it would have been a problem for you and he knew it. His solution? Lying. Yes, they are just that stupid. It's very likely that nothing did happen and I know the same goes for my H but they lied and took away the trust you need to have the faith to believe in them. Damn them! amn them all to hell! lol
I wish I could tell you it will get better but I'm just as mad about some of mine and H's 'incidents' now as I was then. I obssess over them, especially during more vulnerable/emotional times...like PMS.
I wish you luck. I hope you find peace.
Proud_Arrow - I too like you
Proud_Arrow - I too like you had gotten out of a bad relationship previous to getting together with DH. I actually walked in on my bf in the act with someone else. Since me and DH were friends at the time, he knew about the whole situation. When we started dating, I made it clear to him that I dealt with nothing but lies in my past relationship, and if he wanted to be with me, please never ever lie to me. He prided himself on being honest and truthful, and would never imagine doing that to me, etc. Well, I bought it so i figured I was done with the liar b.s. See, i'm kind of a once a liar always a liar kind of girl, so that's why it's hard for me to get over it and i've been struggling to get my trust back completely ever since.
I think that the larger
I think that the larger problem is the constant wondering about weather or not you got the WHOLE story from him about the incident… it really is a weird situation.
If this woman doesn’t mean anything to him any more, why keep a “family” tape hidden under lock and key..? Being there “for the day” for his daughter is one thing, but keeping a tape where he is calling the woman “honey” and “sweetie”and buying her a flippin gift no less… that’s a whole other ball of wax. If it was truly “over” with her there’s no way this could have happened.
DH and Mother Russia broke up over the holidays… he was a stay at home dad with no real resources so he was biding his time to the end of the month till he had the proper funds together to move out. There were a few photos taken of that “Christmas” for the kids grandparents and let me tell you… they are the saddest bastard photo’s you could ever imagine… the adults were barely on civil speaking terms, they hadn’t eaten in days and DH was unshaved and drunk in all of them. It was OVER… they went through the motions for the kids (gifts, tree, decorations) but I can guarantee you there were no “honey’s” or “sweeties” flying around that joint. How sad...
I saw first hand a “for the kids” Christmas… it doesn’t sound like the one you described on that tape. That one sounded like two people feeling out the situation to be sure they’re making the right decision.
And it was a HUGE lie… and you are not one bit at fault for still being hurt… and I don’t believe you’ve heard the whole story from this man. Good luck darlin… *hugs*
My DH said he was "mistaken"
My DH said he was "mistaken" when he told me him and BM had been over for a couple of years...it was just this past weekend that I found out it was only a couple of MONTHS they had been done.
I wouldn't trust anything he said either, unfortunately. I do suggest that you go to counseling, even if he won't. It helped me get a better handle on some issues my DH and I were dealing with.
You said your DH won't go to
You said your DH won't go to counseling. I think you should go and get your head around this and decide on what an acceptable course of action to resolve it would be, with the help of the therapist. Then tell DH your plan and make it non-negotiable. It disturbs me that he made a record of this event and kept it. Why? Is he all done with her? If he was intimate with her, does he regret it? Can you forgive him? In order for your marriage to flourish not wither, you need to know the answers. He doesn't get a choice about dealing with it since he caused this heartache for you.