Yep, he's at Twit's and from what he says to me, she would like him gone soon. I guess that is a big hint that I should allow him to come back. No way, until this matter is solved. Twit can deal with daddy. Perhaps if Daddy has enough of Twit he will put her in her place once and for all. One can hope.

20years - I think that when she brought that up she wanted me to express just why I felt I should put up with Twit nonsense in front of her and H. Perhaps it is one thing for me to tell him how Twit makes me feel with her nonsense, but another when I am willing to express the same feelings to another person about her. I don't know, just a guess.

Hi Ima - You are right, H just is not getting it so far, at least he is not admitting it if he does. H has said, along with my son-in-law (Twit's hubby) that Twit has some "problems" BUT Twit doesn't have the right to drive me crazy because of them.

Totally agree Sandye. He has to acknowledge what is going on and how just dealing with Twit once or twice doesn't seem to take care of it as she continues her harassment.

I have to say, it made me very uneasy with her constant talking about my demise and getting at my stuff. Ghoulish. We are all mortal and our days will eventually end, but listening to Twit talk about my end with her gain is, well, sends shivers down my spine.

No matter what happens, must see she is banned from my hospital room should anything happen to me. She would probably be doing a happy dance while I take my last breathes. She is SICK.

Yes, hereiam, there IS something seriously wrong with her. What I am dealing with is not just a smirk, etc., it is some real nasty stuff from a person who does have problems.

She wouldn't tell the truth if it hit her in the head.

H was telling me that he went to SIL's father's estate auction last weekend. According to H and SIL (reputable) the heirs agreed that they could bid on whatever they wanted and that amount would come off their share of the estate - thus no one pays anything. He said Twit was complaining to him because they had bought so much they were going to have to pay outright. He was using this as a way to try to explain to me about her flawed logic and exaggeration. He said she always was one to stir the pot.

I really wasn't in the mood to listen to excuse about Twit, but did respond that someone who lies all the time and exaggerates, tells tales about others and refuses to take responsibility for her actions when confronted, is a very, very hard person to deal with. That is the type of person I stay away from. Such a chronic liar she lies about little things that mean absolutely nothing like whether she saw a movie "Angels and Demons". I once asked, when the movie was out, if she had seen it. Oh yes, wasn't it good, was her response. Later it comes out that she never saw it. Not that this matters, but WHY the lying over something so inconsequential?

Good morning wowthisishard. I can agree with your experiences. As it stand now, H might be at Twits for a long time.

I refuse to have to put up with any more Twit nonsense period. I disengaged, and that was great, for awhile. But sicko's like Twit never quit. She actively would seek me out to pull more Twit carp to try to get my goat. Knowing her mode of operation, I would laugh at her or walk away, but she kept on coming. This stuff about my demise, well, that is beyond the pale IMO. Death, any one's death is no joking matter. And the ghoulish comments about taking and wanting my possessions, well, that is way off base. This wasn't the first time she pulled that carp with me, several times I just laughed at her and walked away. She WANTS pretty much sums it up.

In this instance, the thing that brought Twit's ghoulishness up was that she saw a braclet in my antique store that she wants. She even told H (who passed it on to me) that "she needs to talk to me about inheritance before I put things like that bracelet out for sale" BIG hint that I should give it to her. I told H it was my decision to sell it as it was MINE, that she could buy it if she really "loved it". Twit wants it badly. That is interesting.....she gives me garbag ashtrays, resin plates from the junk store or garage sales and WANTS me to give her nice things, good things. I never use to feel this way, but what she does is show her disdain for me so why should I be generous to her?

I come from a family that, when I am out traveling or even shopping, if I see something my daughter would adore I might just pick it up and send it to her. She does the same thing. It shows that we think and value each other. Doesn't have to be Christmas, just the thought. Neither of us would dream of giving the other trash.

Twit, on the other hand, thinks only of herself and her immediate family (excluding H). She went to the Bahamas and showed off the jewelry she bought with larimar in in. She bought several necklaces for herself and for her son's girlfriend. Hell, we didn't even get a post card. YET she wants fine things from me for FREE. Now, in the past, if that were me, I would have picked up necklaces for my daughter, even Twit (at that time) and myself because I loved them and wanted to express my love. Cheap ashtrays and junk resin tash doesn't do that. She pulled them all out to "Show" us when she came back. AND, H actually was nice enough to watch their dogs while they were gone! No thanks, nadda. Typical Twit....me, me, me followed by YOU OWE it to me.

Oh, I did give H that carp back to give to Twit as I have no use for junk. He took it, but I doubt he will give it to her, he says he doesn't want to start any "trouble". Gee, I guess it is okay about her talking about me in my grave and being a grave robber, but he doesn't want to start trouble with her. Grrrr.

Hi Justwow - A big thanks for your support, man this is tough.

As to the bracelet et. al., H wants to talk about things like that, or anything else, rather than talk about the real problem and a real solution to the problem --- Twit and her behavior towards me, and towards him as well. I guess it is called denial. Believe me, he KNOWS how I feel about the bracelet etc.

We have another counseling session tomorrow. I keep waiting for an epiphany on H's part. Yes, I understand Twit has problems, but why does he think I should be the one that has to be the butt of her problems? Certainly he can set some limits with her on her behavior towards me since when I do it she goes ballistic and keeps coming at me from all different directions. How can one stay disengaged when the "enemy" is always making sneak attacks. Twit is not normal, IMO, by a long shot. As I have said before, she scares the begesus out of me for some reason, and, as we all know, it is best to trust one's gut feelings. Perhaps it is because I have heard her bragging about what she does to people, how she goes out of her way to hurt people for no apparent reason other than meanness.

Oh yes, Twit wants. Before this bracelet there was a necklace she liked that I had for sale. That was when she told me I didn't understand the meaning of inheritance! I sold it so she was teed she didn't get it. I told her if she wanted it to buy it but she said it was too expensive for her. You see, FREE, is what her price point is in regards to stuff I have that she wants. Obviously I have some nice stuff that she wants, but she wants to be showered with things and be a.... TWIT.....in return. This bracelet is something that I found and paid for to sell in my store...stock. Just like her pots and pans are her stock. She certainly doesn't give us any deals or any of that stuff for FREE. As she once told H, it is HER business.

As she told H about the cheap ashtray, it is the THOUGHT that counts and wasn't I terrible, because I felt insulted by it, that I was "materialistic"!!!! Or like the time she let H and I sit out in the heat (over 96 degrees that day) because she took her time taking a shower because of the heat. No consideration, but we should be grateful that she even bothered to show. The few times H has asked her to help him out she acts as though she is being put upon and tells him that he OWES her. H one time commented how she is very generous with her husband's side of the family....gives them nice things, even PC pieces for free etc. Us, carp and lousy carp at that. And claims it is the THOUGHT that counts. Twit....I hear you loud and clear.

Twit treats H like carp as well, but he keeps letting it go....oh, she has problems, oh don't worry about it, etc. Disrespect is disrespect, period. Meantime she fawned all over her FIL, doing things for him, cleaning the house, etc. Why, because she was hoping to get $$ when he passed. Well, FIL divided the Mother's jewelry and didn't invite her over to participate in the distribution. Was she pizzed. She, she claims, is like a daughter to him....must have been his daughters that cut her out. Well, Twit, you just don't get it....the mother's jewelry should go to her NATURAL daughters, not a stepdaughter regardless of how you feel they should treat you. Since the FIL was still alive, and had $$, she blamed the daughters for being *itches and cutting her out, weren't they terrible, etc. she cried to H....boo hoo hoo. Took a while before he found out that the FIL did give Twit one of his wife's watches as a rememberance. Obviously that was not enough.

I'm so sorry to blab on this, I know I have posted it before, but it is really teeing me off at this stressful time. Counselling is early this afternoon and I'll see how it goes.

Hi disillusioned - Funny you would mention that because the counselor brought that up at our first session. Stressed that THIS was between US and no other family members need to hear about it or give advice. I thought that was pretty good.