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UGH I Hate Trying To Be Nice

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

So DH and I have been going to marriage counseling (which I highly recommend if you can find a good one--and male. I find DH respects male authority a bit better than female authority but that's probably most men) and one of the things it's helped me with is growing a backbone about MIL.

Before, she pretty much walked all over me and stressed me out, passive aggressively attacking me when her mood was right, doing things to make me uncomfortable just to see if she can make me squirm, demanding (and me acquiescing) to letting her see BD any time she wanted, even if that meant changing my schedule. I don't think DH even knew how badly it affected me until I damn near had a mental breakdown. It's weird, because I am not someone who allows herself to be walked on in normal circumstances (and almost got into a fight with a chick at a restaurant who was racistly harassing the waitress.) But something about wanting to have a happy family with MIL I guess and that made me weak.

So now DH is taking over everything in regards to ANY contact with his mother. He has a long way to go, which includes at least picking up the phone so she doesn't start calling ME when she can't reach him. I also no longer am going to be dropping BD or picking her up for a visit with MIL--solely DH's job and on his schedule, which means the time MIL gets to see BD has been dramatically reduced to about twice a week for a total of 7 hours or so.

And MIL is freaking the fuck out. Like she BUGGIN'.

She called DH a few weeks ago accusing him of saying he was never going to let her see BD again (are you sure you don't have him confused with BM?) Then every time I have to see her she keeps saying how she'll gladly watch BD if I have errands to run, which I keep responding, "Talk to DH about it, he doesn't want me driving while being so pregnant." She lives about 20 minutes away so dropping BD off and then going BACK HOME to do errands is crazy, and I don't want her in my house because she will inevitably make some snarky comments.

Then Mother's Day she tried to guilt me into it saying BD was asking her to see her more etc. (She's 2 and a half, all she cares about is her macaroni and chocolate milk, like shit, you think she thinks that far without some grooming from MIL?) I almost got into a fight with DH because I was like, why didn't you explain it clearly to her so she can't corner me? And then I found out he's already told her over and over again and she's just trying to work me because DH is firm. So he's going to be a bite more aggressive and tell her she needs to leave me out of it.

I'm at a point where I'm seriously resenting/hating MIL and once that happens, it's REALLY hard to not. I talked to DH about it and my question is kind of, how do I at least not hate/resent her (given I know she will never apologize til the day she dies for all she put me through) and not feel my skin crawl or my hackles raise every time we have to be around her.

His response was, "You don't have to because I feel the same way."

But, learning to let it go is for MY emotional health, not for anyone else, because she is eventually going to pass away and I don't want to feel any guilt over this.

So I'm kind of lost now.

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not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Holy shit, you're my hero!

Honestly, I don't know. I don't want everything to get awkward, I guess? This is what bugs me, in usual life, I have no problem giving people a damn piece of my mind, but when it comes to MIL...

It's also because I don't know if she pretends her memory is bad or her memory is actually bad. If she said something mean the week before, she'll maintain she didn't say it, or actually said something else, and if you had no witnesses... well, you're SOL. Then it makes you feel like you're the crazy one. Then she will start lamenting to everyone and everything that we're picking on her/victimizing her.

My family refuses to come around MIL now, they think she's low class. Especially after BD's birthday last year when MIL said some super racist stuff (my background is asian) under the guise of being "surprised", like "I thought all asians looked alike until I met Josephine's friends" and "Do you all know how to use a cleaver like in Chinatown?" and DH called her out on being racist, a few weeks later she turns around and says MY SISTER called her racist when my sister was the one who actually defended her and said to let it go.

Our counselor did say it sounds like MIL is on the spectrum for NPD since that's one of the hallmark signs.

I'm worried I'm going to snap one day and just say everything I feel like saying and the relationship will be irreparable.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Well the words that will probably come spilling out of my mouth is, "You already fucked up your relationship with your children, so do me a favor and keep out of my relationship with mine." or "Keep doing what you're doing and even DH won't bring BD around." or something like it. I just wanted to prevent this from happening because my inner bitchiness is BOILING.

This past x-mas, when DH asked me what we should get his mother, I deadpanned, "A cemetery plot."

(This is because this woman insists on being buried with her ex husband who has a second space reserved for a wife, but she divorced him when DH was 4, not because I'm a homicidal psychopath. DH and his brother both don't want her there because she made their dad's life hell, and their dad isn't alive to say whether or not he'd be okay with it.)

DaizyDuke's picture

Again.... treat her like you would BM... ignore the whore!

I was dreading going to Christmas dinner at MIL's but really wanted to see my SIL's and the rest of the family. Guess what? When there is a big gathering, it's super simple to just talk to anyone and everyone BUT MIL. Sure I got stuck talking to her for like 5 minutes total when she would ask me a dumb question or something, but I would just answer and move on....

And who gives a crap if she is lamenting and complaining to everyone that your are being mean to her??? I have found that the older I get the less I give a crap about what people think.

I just stay away from my MIL and I keep BS6 away from her too, although that part is easy, because my MIL is wayyyy more concerned with BM1s random kids with other baby daddies than she is about BS6... like seriously, when we went to MILs for Christmas dinner, that was the first time she had seen BS6 in??? almost a year???

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

That's actually why I went to the mother's day thing because SIL planned it and I really like her. But MIL spent the entire time trying to physically herd me away from the group so she can corner me. It made me really not enjoy it and I wanted to push her away from me because it was just that creepy.

DaizyDuke's picture

You need to treat MIL like you would BM... this is how DH and I handle MIL

If MIL calls me? I NEVER answer.
If MIL calls DH? He might answer, depending on his mood but if she starts her shit, he simply hangs up on her.

Let her bug... she'll either get over it or she won't. Ignore her when she is acting the fool and she'll eventually get the point (or she won't such as my MIL) so you just keep on keeping on only WITHOUT her bullshit invading your peace.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

That's what DH does and then she starts blowing up my phone. Recently I started to ignore it but it's only a matter of time that she comes charging into my house or something uninvited because I've ignored it one too many times.

DaizyDuke's picture

But that's why... because in the past all her shitty behavior has worked to her favor. I feel for your DH and you... it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. It's probably going to get worse before it gets better. Sad

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

" It's probably going to get worse before it gets better. "

That's what it feels like right now.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Must be the hormones. I don't know when I got it in my goddamn head that standing up for myself was considered a malicious move and that I should feel guilty for it.

Y'know what, I shouldn't. I'm enjoying going entire weeks without ever having to see/contact MIL because no one is in control of my schedule but me. (I used to see her FOUR TIMES A WEEK minimum) It's actually pretty glorious, just the stupid nagging feeling that pops up (usually after she's bugged out) like I'm doing something wrong by not caving to her.

moeilijk's picture

You know what, I really understand your situation. I recently had some in-law drama of my own. (I blogged about it, just look it up if you want deets.) It's always 90% your own stuff - no matter how nuts they are, it's how you interpret it and respond to it that makes it drama. Voice of experience here.

So knowing that, you actually are armed to deal with her, so to speak. You know she won't respect your boundaries, so you don't give her a chance. Some people you have to draw boundaries with extra-loud, because they don't notice boundaries that you draw gently. Those are the people that don't mind when you're pushy with them, because they genuinely don't notice you until you are. (My DH can be like that. I've learned to turn up the volume before I get angry to get his attention.)

Some people just don't care about your boundaries, full-stop. And that's your MIL. So you have to end-run her. You don't want contact with her, you must go completely radio silent. Block her phone number except while BD is with her. When invited to a family gathering, seriously consider skipping to avoid her. If you do go, do not make eye contact. If she approaches, engage in evasive maneuvers. Make a game of it (to keep yourself entertained and distracted from the BS). How many times can you give her the slip?

My own mom can be a challenge, and it's been so hard to accept that I just have to hide half my life from her, when usually I'm an open book to anyone who takes an interest. But if I don't, I get trampled on. I hate it. I wish I could have that close, relaxed feeling that I've heard others talk about, but that doesn't seem to be for me.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Just read your previous posts about your in-law stuff. I'm pretty sure your IL's are going to start FREAKING OUT as well.

I'm about to carve my boundaries on her doorstep. This past week we saw MIL a combined of 4 times (I saw her on mother's day, she tried to get me to go into her house on Monday when I was dropping BD off, but I hightailed it out of there--she's like that creepy pedophile that asks if you want candy so she could get what SHE wants)--she bugged about our schedule 8 freakin' times, once with me, SEVEN times with DH, DH told his mom she needed to get her memory checked out because he already told her HOW IT IS to which she stormed off to another room.

Seriously, if you want to talk to someone who restricts your access to your grandchild, talk to freakin' BM because you can't see SS unless she says so, and that's usually once a year, and only if the timing is advantageous to fucking something of our lives up.

I feel for DH and BIL because they are like how you are with your mom, they have to hide most of their lives from her.

FrenchPeas's picture

Why do people feel guilty for standing up to someone who obviously doesn't think a thing about being rude to you?
"Excuse me" and walk away.
"That was rude of you" walk away
"I'm not discussin that with you" walk away
"It isnt your concern" walk away
"You can ask your son" walk away.

Walk away. You do not have to be cornered or herded anywhere. What you allow will continue. There you go.

moeilijk's picture

I've thought about that a lot in my life. IMHO, I think it's shock. I'm so shocked to see people behaving badly that in my head I make it 'normal' and just keep going for a while. Then, as it continues, I have to behave badly myself to manage the interactions. So I feel the guilt because I'm breaking my own rules about normal and decent behaviour.

And eventually, after (apparently) much inner drama, I come to realize that it is not normal. So since the paradigm has shifted, better I deal with the new paradigm than keep living in the old.

Just my $0.02.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

I think you're completely right about the shock--and the fact that DH treats ignoring his crazy mother like it's normal, like she's literally been doing this her entire life and you just stay away unless she behaves herself.

"No! I came in to try to be one happy family! I will fix it damnit!" -- said the naive me six years ago. If anyone runs into that me, please punch her in the face, and let her know its from future her. I NEVER would have imagined the only reason he and his brother got to start ignoring her is from years of nothing else WORKING.

I was stressing out again last night (still, I think the hormones make me extra extra stressed) because she bypassed DH and called me AGAIN, and left a voicemail saying she WILL pick up BD tomorrow (today)--yeah, given we found out from BIL you don't know how to strap BD in the booster seat in your car, that AIN'T happening. DH told me to ignore it and just pretend I'm not home if she somehow is crazy enough to come to our house.

When DH saw how much it was bothering me (I have to hide in my own goddamn house?) he said he'll talk to her in the morning and let her know clearly that he is in charge of our family's relationship with his family, and I'm in charge of our relationship with mine. If she can't respect that, tough luck, she'll get ignored.

moeilijk's picture

not2sure, I'd be prepared to call the police on MIL if she does come over and trespasses, tries to enter or tries to grab BD. Practice now what you will say so you don't feel so bizarre about the whole situation.

911: 911, what is your emergency?
not2: I need the police. My MIL is threatening to take my daughter and she's trying to enter my house. There's a history of strange behaviour, and she's been told to stay away. I am embarrassed to call but I can't risk her taking my daughter.