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bio meeting, any bm's out there for advice on this one?

new evil stepmom's picture

any bm's out there for advice on this one?

sd (13-yrs) is displaying behavioral problems, biting hitting spitting on bf. also, most recently sd acting sick and missing school - very convincing too (only beginning of 3rd quarter and sd has missed 3.5 days). sd forgets to take her medicine (medicine could be making sd ill). talks back to bf and me, always arguing/bickering.

bm is coming over tonight to talk about sd's behavior and medication.

should I be present?

or should this be between bio's only?

I have only been in the picture 2-years.

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pissedoffinNC.'s picture

If it was me, I would leave it up to the two of them just because its their child. I only say that because I wouldnt want to make things harder on the situation. I dont know if you get along with her BM or not.. but Im sure whatever they figure out together you wont be left in the dark about it, and you will be made aware of what is going to have to take place.

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Colorado Girl's picture

For me, I would not got to my husband and BM's meeting if they had one. That is only because BM wouldn't want me there. It would defeat the purpose and escalate into something that would not be productive. My mere existence enrages her and she wouldn't put any value into what I had to say.

Now for me as a bio-mom. If my ex had a wife that was a constant part of my child's life, I would want her to be there as much as I would expect my current husband to be there. We all want what's best for my children so I would encourage the participation.

So it depends...does BM care if you are there?

"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass...It's about learning to dance in the rain."

evilsm's picture

SD11 (at the time) was being very disrespectful to her BM and lying to both DH and BM and playing them both against each other because she knew they did not communicate well. Finally I suggested to DH that he and BM talk about this without SD around to come up with some understanding between the two of them about how they were going to parent her. I stayed (its my home too) and I participated in the conversation a little. I agree with CG that if you are a constant part of SD's life and you have some responsibility for her then I would stay. How does BM feel about you being there?

~Evil

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Sita Tara's picture

definitely depends on your relationship. I would leave this up to BM right now, and later try to engage with her (if you all want that) when it's not crisis related. People get pretty defensive of even the best intended suggestions when it's regarding their kids. Do you H and his ex get along ok? If not then maybe a mediator would help. Don't try to fill that position yourself! You'll never win given your relationship to each other Wink

I know even now that I consider BSs SM a friend, sometimes I just want to talk to the boys' dad about stuff. They (exh and SM) don't agree with each other about their blended kids half the time, so I'm more comfortable dealing with them one on one, then getting caught up in their disagreeing (though it does always remind me why he and I didn't get along!) SM knows we are all friends so she is not worried if exH and I speak alone or anything. I think exH is more worried when SM and I speak without him, but he's learned to put up with it.

Goodluck.
Peace, love, and red wine

gobbism's picture

but I'd make sure that I'm privy to what went down.
As it is I am finding it very very important for me ask my Boyfriend what's going on with each step, and to ask often, more often than I really want to, just to keep him on top of things. I find myself saying, I've gotta be more annoying to you than not dealing with this thing. I sorta think guys are designed to be constantly prodded.

I've noticed that we really missed out on a lot of things because we were TOO passive in the past. If I did this again I would have talked to a lawyer sooner. It's amazing how many misconceptions there are about so many things. I really think it would be a bit better for all parties concerned, mom, dad, son, and me, stepmom, if we understood things earlier.

goingcrazy's picture

with the bio mom? As a BM, I would be okay if my daughter's SM sat in, but kept her comments to herself. Othwerwise I would prefer her not to be there. But she only sees my daughter four days out of the month. So she is not very active in her life. So I would not see a reason for her to be there.

Now, as a ST with full custody of SD, I would DEMAND to be there because I am the primary mom. But that is my situation. I would ask BM how she felt. Explain to her that you care about SD and what is happening and thatyou would like to take an active role in helping. But that you would like to show her the respect as the BM and qill honor her wishes. And whatever is decided, do not take offense. Maybe approaching BM like that will open more lines of communication and help SD get the help she needs.

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Sita Tara's picture

DH and I would be the only ones to show up anyway. This actually happened before for a mandatory school meeting of SD's whole class for mean girl issues. SD was at BM's came into school bragging BM wasn't making her come to the stupid meeting. Principal overheard and had SD's teacher call BM personally to tell her she must come, as the meeting was mandatory. BM said they had plans but would try to work it in.

When we got there we walked past the teacher and said, "Are they here?" and she replied, "We'll talk after."

Turns out SD was a main instigator in the mean girl stuff and they were very disappointed that BM lied and said she would try to come, when obviously she had no intention of coming.

This all worked out for us in the end with our custody case, as it was another documented example with unbiased witnesses, of BM's inability to cooperate and collaborate with us for SD's best interest.

Peace, love, and red wine

Mrs Katch 22's picture

sd is disrespectful to you and bf. it depends, are you usually there whenever you guys have sd? if you spend almost the same amount of time with sd that bf does...i'd be there - especially since you're one of the parties being disrespected to. if you foresee yourself being with bf in the long run, i'd be there. is sd going to be at this "meeting?"

new evil stepmom's picture

sd is never grounded and doesn't get discipline or yelled at until it is too much too late.

sd is 13, what is appropriate?

I suggest taking things away (but I make sure that any idea I have comes from BF and I keep my mouth shut). I do not do any discipline, I believe it is up to BF - but I have yelled due to the fact the situation was out of hand and that was the only thing I could do besides eat a bullet or go insane.

I just bought sd a dress for formal in February. I believe if I purchase the item, I can take it away. But even though I think that, I just make BF do that and I keep my mouth shut (most of the time).

I strongly believe if we take that dress away, sd will change her attitude and behave - most likely only until the formal dance and then back to normal. The reason I believe sd's attitude/behavior can be controlled through material things is that, before christmas and birthdays, sd is a perfect child - helps around the house, polite, respectful, etc.

Sd basically gets everything she wants (except laptop)so incentives don't work. I tried paying her $ for keeping room/bathroom tidy - that did not motivate her.

Anne Summers's picture

Taking things away, from tv to computer to other things, is a great idea. This, among other things, have worked well for us. I suggest laying down some ground rules about crimes & punishments. Say for example, in our house, if one of the kids hit someone (no matter who) they have to write sentences, do a chore they loathe and give a toy to charity. This works very well for us. I am never beyond putting a child in the corner---no matter how old. Blum 3

I think you had the start of a great idea with granting her money after she does chores. Give a monetary value to each chore whether it be her own room or doing all of the dishes. If you have to---put up a chart showing the chore, the amount of money and a place to check when the chore has been done. I also think it's a good idea that she does not get paid if the job was not done to your/BF's standards. This way she won't halfway do things. Since she's skipping school I would give her an incentive on things like perfect attendance (unless truly sick) and her good grades. Currently for my 10 year old I do the following (of course your money values might be more since she's older):

A = 5 Dollars
B = 4 Dollars
C = 3 Dollars
D = NOTHING
F = Take 5 Dollars AWAY

I'm not sure how much the dress cost for the formal, but since the dance is not until February then let SD know that if the attitude continues (give a time limit of like 48 hours for her to adjust) then you WILL take the dress back.

I also suggest that SD pay for her own "luxury" items that she wants from here on out. All those chores she should be doing will be her way of paying for all those nice new things she wants. Let her know this will be what is happening from now on. The key to this is not backing down from it---that goes for you & BF.

Since you said she is all nice-nice before birthday and Christmas then tell her in order for her to get items she wants that she must have a great attitude all year. (Every kid has there off moments but she should be good for the most part.) Tell her it is not beyond you guys to put COAL in her stocking. Biggrin

Hope some of this helps. Remember SD is a TEENAGER---she is bound to be a pill some times, but that doesn't grant her a 24/7 attitude. Good Luck! Smile

"Sometimes you have to test the limits to show you're not a doormat."

SoFrustrated's picture

I am always there, mostly because Hubby can't remember half of what they talk about to tell me later. Most importantly, Hubby wants me at those meetings, so I don't really worry about whether or not she wants me there. Mostly I just sit there and watch her. I think it makes her a self conscious :evil: I only ever talk if Hubby asks me a question or can't remember something. Plus, my presence there keeps her from going all crazy on Hubby, although I don't know if it's because she wants to appear mature in front of me(ha!) or what, but it works, so I just go with it.

As far as discipline, I'm going through the same thing with my SD, being extremely disrespectful and throwing tantrums, etc. I'm lucky in that Hubby won't tolerate them and she ends up in her room with no one to listen to her but herself. As my counseling professor once said to his son "I know you hate me, but you need to go hate me in your room." I also like the idea of taking things away. We usually start with activities that she wants to do, being able to go shopping and going to the games after school, and if that doesn't work she gets grounded to the house (no playing outside) and then things get taken away. So far it works, she gets cut off pretty quickly.