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natalie's picture

My 14 year relationship is coming to an end. I ended it. But I am absolutley devestated and it has taken every ounce of strengthI had left to stay strong on this. We have fought so many times and told each other we were done but it never lasted long. But it's now been almost 5 days since we have spoken and I'm trying to stay strong because part of me feels like this is what i need to do and everyone in my life agrees. But I've been told everything is my fault for so long that I can't help but question now that maybe it partly is. Maybe if I would have been emotionally and mentally stronger I could have made our relationship better. But it just always felt so impossible.

When we met both of us were so happy and deeply in love. I wanted nothing but to be with him and give him all the love I had and it seemed like he felt the same. I was always loyal to him and wanted nothing to do with any other man. He was everything I wanted and needed. But a few years in around the time I thought he would propose I found out he had been secretly talking to a LOT of other women, sending vulgar messages, exchanging nude photos and asking to meet up. I don't have proof he ever did and he denies he ever did. It completely destroyed me. I couldn't believe it. I trusted him so completely and our relationship was beautiful and amazing in my opinion. I was giving him everything he could have possbily needed.  So, we split. Then he begged me back and said how stupid he was and i was the love of his life and he wanted to marry me and he would never do anything to hurt me ever again and he learned his lesson and asked me to trust him again. So as soon as I started working on rebuilding the trust that was destroyed I found out he also lied about being in the military. When I found out he still tried to keep lying about it even though I had proof. We split again and the same thing happened and I ended up taking him back. Then very shortly after that he got an offer to go to New York for his job. He did construction. He could have easily said no and they could have sent someone else. I begged him not to because I was just starting to try and heal and trust him and my anxiety was at an all time high and I was still suffering from the heartbreak of it all. He got so angry at me that I was so emotional about him leaving and we got into a nasty fight. And he ended up going to New York. I tried so hard to keep it together while he was there but I had overwhelming anxiety and all I wanted was for him to keep in touch with me and I did need a little reassurance at times. But I wasn't lashing out or acting crazy. Just sad, anxious and emtotional. When he came home I found a phone number in his bag and it had a womans name on it. He claimed he had no idea where that came from and it wasn't his. I called the number. It was the bartender that worked at the hotel he stayed at in New York. She told me everything. How they exchanged many text messages and even sent them to me.  How he begged her multiple times to come back to his hotel room, etc. She never did. He even asked if he could come to her parents house where she was living. So anyway I was an absolute mess after all this. But somehow I still loved him so much and I just could not let go of the man I fell in love with. He promised he was done being so stupid and for some crazy reason a big part of me needed to believe it. I had never loved someone this deeply. And even after he did all of that to me I still couldn't find the strength to leave him. 

We stayed together and for the next few years the damage all that had caused me became very obvious. I struggled a lot with trust, anxiety, ocd, paranoia, etc. And I no longer trusted myself. We had horrible fights becuase of this. Many times I needed to talk or needed clarity or reassurance it turned into a horrible degrading fight. He would scream at me and call me every name you could think of and tell me he hated me and I was broken and that all he needed me to do was get over it and trust him again so we could be happy and move forward. And I started hating myself that I had such a hard time doing that.That's all I wanted. So as time went on and I saw no real signs of him lying to me or hiding things from me I very slowly started to gain back trust. And as of the last few years I'd say for the most part I honestly did trust him. And during those years we had many great times together and were very much in love. But that was mixed in with horrible arguments, crying, name calling, etc. But I felt that he did love me and wasn't interested in messing up what we had anymore. But I did still struggle from time to time and needed a little reassurance. And maybe that became my toxic trait. But I did try so hard to hold back so many times. Sometimes it felt impossible. And i just needed him to tell me everything was okay and he loves me and would never hurt me again. And sometimes he had enough self control to do that but many times he didn't. And a lot of times that would greatly calm the storm inside me.But because of this over the past few years it's the reason he can't marry me. And no matter how hard I tried or how hard I tried to make him happy whenever the subject of marriage came up he said, "We aren't ready" or "I can't marry someone who still acts insecure and like they don't trust me". So I ended up becoming depressed and feeling hopeless because although I know I still struggled with trust and anxiety it was no wear near as bad as it was years ago. For the most part I thought things were pretty good.  I loved him with all my heart but because of the damage that had been done I felt like everything in our relationship would always end up being my fault. 

So now SS came to live with us. He started attempting to abuse our cat. I took the cat to my moms. And becuase I ended up not feeling comfortable around his SS I ended up staying at my moms and it was non stop arguing with SO and I. I was horrible for stealing his cat from him which is actually OUR cat not just his. And I was horrible for leaving him. I still saw him almost every day or every other day. But it recently got bad and we had a bad fight and I told him I can't take it anymore and I was done. He told me he wanted the cat back and I said no becasue months ago they found out he was abusing the cats at SS's moms house and he threw one against the wall. During our fight SO tried to tell me he never told me his son threw a cat against a wall at his moms house and that I must be mentally ill if i think he told me that.  he tells me I am the one who has been emotionally and mentally abusing him for years and I don't know what emotional or mental abuse actually is. Maybe to some extent he is right becuase of my anxiety and me needing reassurance often. I honestly don't even know anymore. I just feel exhausted. I think back at all the good times and how when we weren't arguing and everything was going okay he was always so sweet and so loving most of the time and I can't help but feel like my anxiety and me not sticking around during all of this with his son and everything is destroying us now. 

I am forcing myself to do the no contact because I know if I don't the cycle will continue over and over. But it's incredibly painful. But I'm scared he was trying to make it better and I became the toxic one in a way.

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Rumplestiltskin's picture

No. Hell, no, you aren't the toxic one. Stay the hell away from this sociopath and his mini-me animal torturer of a kid. In a previous blog, didn't you say you saw SS on video throwing your cat? And he would rather piss his own floor and lie about it than walk a few feet to the bathroom? 

The female bartender told you what happened. What more proof do you need? Him saying "I can't marry you because you're so insecure you don't trust me" after you have caught him in numerous lies and attempted affairs is exactly what a sociopath would say. The only reason he didn't cheat with the bartender is that he was obviously too unattractive/dumb/creepy for her. 

natalie's picture

I know, I don't know why I stayed through all that. The problem is the years following up until now he swears he has been good to me and made a change and would never do those things ever again and just needed me to trust him. And I was the one destroying our relationship these past 6 or so years becuase of my anxiety, distrust and constant need for reassurance. I know I was bad with that for the first few years. And I really fought with myself trying to get better and slowly I did. But it wasn't completely gone. Just not as frequent. And what I'm struggling with is when we weren't arguing for the most part things were good. He was so loving and affectionate and kind and sweet and always telling me how much he loved me and made me feel special. It's so hard to explain to other people unless you were in the actual relationship. But he had two completely different sides to him. And I loved the part of him that made me feel so loved and that was the man I was so in love with. I feel like I'm walking away from that and possibly the last few years were maybe my fault for not just being able to heal and completely move on with him. Maybe then we would have married me. But there were other issues like us always getting kicked out of our apartments and arguing over things that had nothing to do with me being insecure but he would somehow blame it on that. Idk if i'm even making sense. I just still love him and he swears the last few years have been my fault and I've really been struggling with that. 

Rumplestiltskin's picture

And another thing - i find that people who put up with horrible treatment and then ask others if *they* are the problem ARE toxic. But only to themselves for putting themselves through this torture. 

Winterglow's picture

Dump the loser. You deserve so much better.  Why on earth would you want to spend your life with someone you can't trust and who treats you like crap?

natalie's picture

Idk. I guess I keep holding onto the person he is when we arent arguing. And from what he says and from what I could see he left all that stuff in the past and wanted to only be with me and he loved me "with all this heart". That's who I fell in love with. I truly thought he was my soul mate. And for some reason even after all that horrible stuff that happened I couldn't let go of that. And I wanted so badly to believe his apologies and promises because they always sounded so believable and he was always so convincing. Before him it was so much easier for me to kick a guy out of my life who cheated or lied. I don't know what it was with him. Maybe it's becuase he was so convicing and I completely let my guard down with him and I just honestly never loved somone this deeply. All this makes me feel so messed up.

ESMOD's picture

I'm sorry that he was not the man you thought you fell in love with.  Unfortunately, it's pretty clear that he never was.

None of us are perfect, but clearly in this situation, his behavior is so over the top toxic and your response has been pretty normal and overly forgiving of some things  many others would not.

He has shown you who he is.. time and time again.  His son is just the turd frosting on all of it.  I am not minimizing the abuse of your animal.. just that your PRIMARY relationship with your partner was toxic.. even if he didn't have a kid. it would have been unsustainable.

Please take care of yourself and your kitty.. leaving is the right thing under these circumstances.. and he has shown he is not honest or honorable.

JRI's picture

Would you consider therapy?  I'm sensing a person who needs support and healing around the trust and self-esteem issues.  "Mental health is an ongoing dedication to reality at all costs".  Your reality is difficulty seeing and removing yourself from a manipulative liar who is father to an animal torturer.  I wish you the very best luck.

PS, as mother and SM to 5 kids who had hundreds of friends here over the years, only one of the friends ended in serious trouble as an adult.  That boy was the only animal torturer I ever knew of.

natalie's picture

I have been in therapy for a while now. I don't go consistently becuase my insurance doesn't cover it and I haven't been able to afford the high payment on a weekly basis. I'm really struggling with going back and forth between this is the right thing to do and what if it was me... what if I could have made things different. And it's making me feel like i'm going crazy and making me miserable.

I agree with the animal thing. It is very concerning to me. But my ex now tells me I over reacted and his son deserves another chance to prove himself. I just think if he's done this so many times and been told how horrible it is and understands this behavior and hurting animals is not okay and a horrible thing to do and he did it even at our house where he was always on his best behavior I don't trust for a second he will stop. And it's not only that. I've seen him on camera when he was alone pretending he was murdering something or someone on the floor in the kitchen. It looked like he was pretending he had an ax and was hitting something on the floor over and over again. But according to my ex that is normal for boys.

Felicity0224's picture

Please stop questioning your decision. Everything you've laid out points to the fact that this man is not now, nor ever, going to be a true partner to you. You deserve to be with someone who you DO feel secure with. The cheating, lying, screaming, name-calling, gaslighting...maybe one of those issues alone could be dealt with between two people committed to being better for each other. But all together? No way. Please don't waste another moment on this man. Make a plan for what you're going to do when you feel the urge to reach out to him. And please find a therapist to help you work towards healing from the hell he has put you through. 

Rags's picture

His characterless cheating POS core is not you. That is entirely on him.

However, what is on you is knowing full well all of these years that has no character, no honor, no redeeming qualities and is an absolutely pure and total piece of shit.  Yet you continued to sniff his ass on the forlorn hope that he luuuuubbed you.

He never did.  He never will.  At some point you will realize that you never loved him. What you loved was the idea of what you thought you had and that the very rare non toxic moments were somehow indicative of a love and relationship that never was.

I get that challenge. I would have taken far longer to end my first marriage because I was not one to divorce. I owe my XW an eternal debt of gratitude for pulling the plug and hauling her serially adulterous POS skank whore ass out of my life. I get the pain, and the idea of what was lost. Fortunately I figured out that nothing was lost except in my case, a blessedly short amount of time.  

For you, the rest of your story will be one of freedom.  What his self delusional story is, does not matter.

So, learn. Never again tolerate a characterless, domineering, gas lighting, cheating, adulterous, manipulative, lying, total and complete POS in your life. Do not even tolerate any fraction of any of these things in your life.

Get some professional help from an actually worth a shit therapist who is clear on who they work for and what your expectations are of them to help you reconnecting with the person you like being, help you find a life long confidence to never again tolerate this kind of crap from anyone, and to give you the perspective to live the rest of your life well.

Yes, he is 99.999999% toxic and at fault.  You own a fraction fo the end. But you entirely own the fact that you kept tolerating what you knew was shit and kept chasing him trying to sniff his ass on the forlorn hope that your delusion had some semblance of reality.

It never did.

So, be good to you. Get on with living your best life.  Zero contact. None. Block him, have your attorney send a cease and decist notice on all contact. Live well and by living well, enjoy living your revenge. He is a POS. You are not.

Take care of you, get on with your life with him and his shallow and polluted gene pool fading into history.

Give rose

Drinks

All IMHO of course.

StepUltimate's picture

Rags is on point here. I've read your deleted blogs & original forum posts. Time to permanently delete this lying, cheating, toxic person from your life, and dedicate yourself to reclaiming your freedom, peace, joy, and dignity. With healing and mental, emotional, and physical recovery from all the stress of being betrayed and disrespected for so long. 

You are worth it!

AlmostGone834's picture

Hear me.... you're not toxic.... HE'S toxic! My God woman the man is a pathological liar, an abuser, and a cheater. He's got you mixed up five ways to Sunday thinking it's your fault when it's 100% him! 

Her what going to happen if you go back:

Hes going to cheat again. He will blame you for everything. The cat will end up dead. Your self esteem will be in the gutter. He will defend his psycho son. You will end up hurt and confused. He won't care. And in the end, IT WONT WORK OUT. 

Take everyone's advice. Run. 

Lillywy00's picture

am forcing myself to do the no contact because I know if I don't the cycle will continue over and over. 
 

good. 
 

didn't he cheat on you at least 3 times?!? Men rarely take their cheating women back so do what they do and stop taking cheaters back. 

Harry's picture

Own mental health you had to leave,  No one blames you fir you're choices.  Best of luck. " This is the first day of the rest of your life"

MorningMia's picture

Wow. I knew some of your story but not all this background. So proud of you for taking care of the cat AND YOURSELF. You MUST stay strong and steady. This guy is a, as my mother used to say, First Class POS!!! No wonder he spawned an animal abusing child.
 
Please...please...please  do what you can to recover from this awful situation and regain the power and love for yourself that you need to create a much better life. 

Perhaps I missed it. . . but please talk to a therapist. Rebuild your life into a life you DESERVE!

natalie's picture

Thank you everyone! You have no idea how helpful you have all been. I deeply apprectiate all of you taking the time to read my long posts and giving me advice. I need it more then ever right now.