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Lalena75's picture

Thursday, Halloween SO called to talk to his kids at 7 per the CO. Now he knew the kids might still be trick or treating but called figuring that #1 BM would be with them and could hand them the phone or #2 if she wouldn't he could ask they call him back when they were done. BM answered told SO "the kids are out trick or treating." He asked they call him when they get back she of course doesn't.
Yesterday ss calls (he calls SO fairly regular on BM's Fridays we're pretty sure based on the nature BM has him do this)
First thing out of his mouth wasn't hi, wasn't dad it was "we were trick or treating with MOM!" SO responded "no you weren't your mom answered the phone when I called and she wasn't with you guys. It's wrong to lie and it's wrong if mommy asks you to." Then ss rambled on about other stuff.
BM is stupid enough to forget she answered the phone then try and get the youngest to lie and cover for her not having them call back. It was Halloween and a school night, SO called because he can but this time he wasn't surprised not to talk to them.
Suppose next week we'll be having a big talk about lieing, how wrong it is, and it's just as wrong if someone makes you. That it is okay to tell people who ask you to lie "no". We of course know they get this behavior from BM she's a whole bunch of stupid.

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Lalena75's picture

Usually when we discuss "rules" for how to behave in life that are contradictory to their BM's stupidity they tow our line thankfully. There are serious consequences here for lying and they know it but don't yet or have yet to really get it that their mother will get them in trouble and use them if she "thinks" it benefits her. We also give them the tools to defend against her asking them to do things they know are wrong while using them in a way against her such as the doctor saying sd is overweight and her diet should be carefully monitored we know BM feeds them gas station donuts to bribe them (and would tell SO to F off if he passed on what the doc says), then they go to school and eat their free breakfast. We had the doctor explain to sd how this can hurt her health, she understood and was very concerned about eating better. She was mostly worried how to deal with BM and the donut bribes. We told her first she should do as she's told instead of expecting something for doing her "job" and get ready for school. Then she should tell BM "I would rather have some something healthy at school, you wouldn't want me to be unhealthy and 2 breakfasts is unhealthy."
SD actually did this now BM doesn't give either of the little ones donuts because they "Do our jobs and get ready for school" and tell her no donuts lol. She still bribes her older obese dd (not SO's kid)The kids like that they have jobs to do as kids (get dressed, brush hair and teeth, tie their shoes, pick up after themselves) I'm lucky that for now they really, really are motivated by our expectations. Your welcome BM that we not only made your job easier but your kids healthier!

misSTEP's picture

Isn't it ironic when the same psycho BM who teaches the child(ren) to lie to their fathers are always SO AMAZED AND DISMAYED when those same children lie to HER!