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Jsmom's picture

Had to send a note to a teacher today for SS. Email below...

SS13 mentioned to me that his mom was at school yesterday volunteering for the Ice Cream Social. SS was rather confused by this, since she has not been involved since elementary school. I am sure it is so she can see him in a different setting besides their EOWE visitation.

Since we now have full custody of SS at his request, the relationship between all of us is tenuous at best. All communication is currently now done through the attorneys.

SS has asked me to go on the field trip with him and we paid for me to go. Also, I am planning on being at the Survivor day next week since I have offered to coordinate it for you in the Spring. Never having done it, I wanted to see what it is all about.

I need to be sure for SS's sake that BM is not planning on being on the Field Trip or at the Survivor Day. SS is very uncomfortable around his mom right now and I do not want to add to that stress. Can you check on the volunteers to ensure this?

If you would still like me to attend next week, please let me know and send me the information of when I need to be there and where. Can you also add me to the email list since DH is not really good at sending me these emails? I appreciate your understanding with this. Please explain confidentially what is going on to the other teachers so that we don’t have an awful situation.

Please understand I am just a stepmom here trying to do what is best for SS and my family.

Thanks,

Teachers reply back:

I understand your concerns with this situation and I am sensitive to your requests. As you can understand, as his teacher, I too want to make sure that he is not put in any uncomfortable situations regarding his family. I have discussed with his mother that you will be helping us with Survivor day and the field trip, so please be assured that I am aware that this is a unique situation. We are looking forward to having you on the field trip with us, as well as helping with Survivor day. You are welcome to attend Survivor day next week to see what it is all about. I will do my best to ensure that we maintain the most comfortable situation for SS. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns. Thanks so much and have a great weekend!

Okay the interesting thing here is that the teacher must have called BM and told her not to attend next week. I have never volunteered for anything for this kid. He came to me and asked me to. I work a lot but because it is my company, I have flexibility to do this. Also, I volunteer for several organizations and this is easy for me to do...BM has never done anything in the 6 years I have been in their life. I am sure it is to see him in a casual setting. That is fine, but I almost went yesterday and decided not to because something else came up. So glad I didn't. This teacher is great, but the others on the team do not know the situation.

I spoke with DH and said the funny thing is I have been accused of overstepping and also about not caring about her kids many times over the years unfounded. Now when I actually am overstepping she is made aware of it. I feel a little bad that she got called and asked not to come next week. She obviously asked what volunteers they needed and they put her down for it otherwise, why would the teacher have called her to tell her I was coordinating it. I was at the open house and they asked and no one volunteered, so I finally asked SS if he wanted me to, since no one was stepping up. He said yes.

Yesterday when he saw her at the social, he said he whipped by grabbed his Ice Cream and took off. Never even talked to her. I said he should have said hello. She picks him up at 6 for their weekend. DH says to just tell him that his mom is aware now that I am volunteering and that is it. It is up to him to tell her that he asked me to. He is in 8th grade, this is it, this is the last chance for someone to do this stuff for him. DH volunteered once last year and I did with Chorus because he was being picked on and DH couldn't.

I will be so glad when he turns 14 in July and she just goes away. No matter what I do is wrong here. I am sure the conversations in that house tonight are going to be interesting and my ears will be burning.

Feel free to bash away about my overstepping...I deserve it...

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Oi Vey's picture

Not only did she say "we" have custody, she started off the email bashing the BM. Niiiiice.
THIS is the kind of stuff that gives SMs a bad name!!!

Oi Vey's picture

Yup. When XH was NCP, I made sure to NEVER speak of the BM with the school, teachers, GS leaders, etc.
When XH became CP, I made extra, extra sure to not speak of her. Believe me, people can put two and two together!

MamaBecky's picture

if you and BM cant play nice, and only one of you can go to an event, then it should be you sitting out. She is the mom. Now since your SS specifically invited you (and not her) that would be the exception, but in general you should step back and let her have first dibs when parental volunteering is appropriate. Either that or suck it up and do it together....but if you cant do that then stay home.

aggravated1's picture

have you read any of the history behind all of this????
The BM hasn't been what you call a model parent.

MamaBecky's picture

Alot of parents aren't model parents. She still has EOWE though so she is still the legal parent. She obviously has not had her parental rights removed. Only custody has changed...so she is still the mom and still should be treated as such.

aggravated1's picture

If she is a crappy mom, and her own son doesn't even want to live with her, who on earth should the SM "take a step back?"

Should no one be there for the kid? Or should SM just wait around for when BM decides she does/doesn't want to do anything?

Doesn't make sense to me. If the BM had primary custody and was involved with the kid, your argument would make sense. In this particular case, it doesn't.

MamaBecky's picture

Dad should be there for the kid, and SM to an extent...but not in place of BM but in addition to her. I never said she should not participate in school activities. I said that if BM has requested to or intends to then she should back off and let BM do it. When BM is not interested (which very well may be most of the time) then sure SM should do so if she desires.

Jsmom's picture

Unfortunately her rights are not severed until he is 14 and that is 9 months. THis is what she agreed to. She has given up full and legal custody. She chose her daughter over her son. She is not the mom anymore...Sorry just because you can have a child doesn't make you a mom.

I have been on this site for three years now and have basically told people that as SM's we should not overstep. But, if a 13 year old child comes to you and asks you to do this for him and he is going through a rough period and just wants a mom, then you do it. Unless you have no heart. Do I think I am overstepping here. Yes. But she clearly is not stepping up so someone has to. After her legal rights have been severed that she agreed to is she now wanting to step up and be a volunteer. She is still not being his mom as evidenced by his last vistation. But, now it is too look good. Unfortunately this kid is not buying it. He wants a mom and as disengaged as I was this last year and a half, it breaks my heart that he just has me when he has a mom. Remember my son has no father his died. I wouldn't do this to anyone unless they obviously don't want to be the mom.

I am a great mom to my BS16 and have been so bashed by BM that I have been so gun shy with SS that now I know I can do this.

He is blossoming and getting almost all A's right now. He is happy here. Isn't that what matters most. Not BM's feelings.

MamaBecky's picture

There is a difference between giving up your legal rights, and not having custody. If she truly gave up her legal rights and will no longer legally be his mom in 9 months then at least you only have to worry about these issues for another 9 months. Adopt him if he really wants you to be his mom. You will be able to if she has given up her legal rights.

If she has just given up custody then she is still the mom...and still has rights to his school/medical records as well as participating in school activities as the parent.

I am glad that you are able to step up for your SS and I commend you for it. I will tell you that I would do the same thing. I am a very involved SM and I do all of the events, conferences, etc...I'm not saying you shouldn't...but I just would never infer that my SD's mom should be excluded.

aggravated1's picture

My point is the BM in this case isn't some great parent who is being denied the opportunity to see her child. She had plenty of opportunities, and didn't take them.

Could it have been worded differently? Probably. But what's done is done. Don't you think it's kind of silly to criticize someone for a letter that has already been sent, and does not involve you personally? Why pick apart something that has already happened?

And I don't know about the emails making the teacher think less of SM. The teachers response certainly didn't seem that way. I do know, in my personal experience, that everyone who has ever dealt with my SK's BM has been relieved when we showed up. I gather they were leery of dealing with a bleached blonde emaciated pillhead.

Jsmom's picture

Thanks but it was worded fine. DH read it and agreed with everything. I know it sounds like I was bashing that she was volunteering. But it was more of an explanation as to who all the parties are. Since DH made me go to his open house and we met with that teacher. There are too many parties involved. She didn't show at the Open house so it was fine. But, she did manage to go to SD's. Saw that because our kids are at the same HS.

Jsmom's picture

Sorry BM Becky, but SS wants me there and not her. I will not be in the same room with her. Not going to happen. She doesn't want me there either. Did you not read, where I said I would not be doing this if SS had not asked????

She is no longer the mom. SS wants her out of his life. Yes HRNYC We do have full custody...As long as I am with DH then it is WE...I never wanted any of this. BM started this mess and only has herself to blame. If your DH and SS want someone to step up and be a mom to this kid, than I will do it. But, trust me this is not easy for me.

The teacher did tell her not to be there very clearly stated in her response to my email. I can't control what the teacher does. I never thought she would call BM. I can however tell them, I won't be there if she is and I did. Since they would like someone to coordinate this event and I am sure BM doesn't want to do it, they do not have a lot of choice from their perspective. Someone has to step up here and clearly no one else has. So I will. You guys are probably the type that bash the ones who volunteer to do things when you don't like how it is done.

Clearly as a SM no matter what I do is wrong so if I am going to be wrong, I will do what SS wants.

Oi Vey's picture

Um, JS, she is still the mom. She might be a crappy one, but she is still the mom.

Also, I didn't read where the teacher told BM NOT to be there. I clearly read where she spoke with BM and LET her know that YOU would be there. I read that as the teacher giving BM the information and BM doing with it what she wishes. Honestly, the teacher doesn't have the authority to tell BM not to be there. There is no restraining order in place and your SS still has visitation with her.

Interesting, the EOW dads are considered every bit as much of a parent as the CP BM, but if BM is the EOW, suddenly she is "no longer mom." Go figure.

VioletsareBlue's picture

Jsmom ... I get ya. I'm in the same boat. Mom gave up custody of older SD and now only gets younger SD on weekends. I completely understand what you are saying and where you are coming from and why you wrote the email. I also understand why you say "we". Perhaps LEGALLY it is not correct but emotional and on a daily basis it sure is. Keep your chin up!

MamaBecky's picture

It's MamaBecky....I am not a BM unfortunately.

However did you not read that I said since he invited you and not her that it was an EXCEPTION...however in general of course if BM wants to volunteer she should have first dibs in doing so since you cant get along and do it together.

smileygirl's picture

I have to agree. I and SS hate BM and feel she shouldn't have any rights to her son that she has been a horrid part time mother to BUT unless SS specifically asks that she not be somewhere, I fully expect her as the mother to attend. Further, to that point if she doesn't I'm not the persons who's place it is to metion her poor choice in not attending as clearly we are not friends and these are not my children. I allow DH that honor. Smile

stepfamilyfriend's picture

I don't know much about your story. Just because as does not want her there, does not mean it should be that way. I mean, plenty of parents PAS the other parent and that is the kind of result. I am not accusing you of PAS, but ss's wishes don't trump her rights at this age, unless there is proof of actual abuse.
Please don't take it wrong, but as a bm( did not have a sm for my DD) I would not take well to being ostracized at school.

DaizyDuke's picture

It is really not the teacher's responsibility to play the role of mediator in this situation and honestly I guess the key word would be "volunteer" which means that if BM wants to volunteer at the Ice Cream Social, the local Cancer Walk, the Animal Shelter or what have you, nobody can really tell her "no"

I would also not read the teacher's response as her telling BM not to be at any of those events. I am reading it that she simply mentioned to BM that you would be there as well, so whomever chooses to show up, shows up but to try and make it as unstressful for SS as possible.

Jsmom's picture

We have proof of abuse and between that and SD15 actions. BM has settled this situation and given up all her rights in 9 months when he turns 14. The only reason there is any visitation now, is because our attorney gave in on that without talking to us. She may be his mom biologically, but she has never acted like it. She has treated him terribly and he is finally done with her. If you could hear what he is saying, it would break your heart.

If a mom that was never involved before suddenly starts wanting to be involved after she has given up her rights, is that fair to the child???

VioletsareBlue's picture

Nope completely not fair. I'm in the same situation as is SD16. She wants nothing to do with her mom. And ever since her mom had to start paying child support she wants to be involved - it's amazing that they don't or can't or won't see how everyone sees the bullshit and the fakeness of it all.

I continue to tell SD16 that her mother loves her. I also commiserate with her when she's having a bad day and her mom has disappointed her or tried to make her feel guilty once again.

You're in a very tough situation, caught in the middle, not the "mom", yet "the mom". I get you and I completely understand why you did what you did.

DaizyDuke's picture

If a mom that was never involved before suddenly starts wanting to be involved after she has given up her rights, is that fair to the child???

Unfortunately because she is the BM, it may not be fair, but it is her right. Look at Steppingup on this site, who has "SD6" who spent most of her life thinking that Steppingup's DH was her father, then Bio Dad comes forward and creates a giant mess. certianly not fair for SD and certainly not fair to the DH who has been the only "dad" she has known, but it's Bio Dad's right as the sperm donor, just as it's your SS BMs right as his egg donor. Not saying it's fair and equitable, but it's the way it is.

mama_althea's picture

edit: I typed this before your post above

I have read a lot of your story and am marginally acquainted with what SS has gone through. I read between the lines that the teacher sees a problem with BM. The teacher sounds straightforward enough that if she thought it was appropriate for BM to be there, she would have facilitated BM being there.

I'm guessing you don't have much to worry about anyway, though, because BM's interest in school activities will be shortlived.

I don't think there should be uniform, across-the-board rights afforded to a parent. I absolutely think these things should be looked at on a case-by-case basis. I disagree that a one-size-fits-all statement such as "it is every parent's right to attend" fits in every single family dynamic.

Madam Hedgehog's picture

I'm not familiar with termination of parental rights. However, if this woman has already signed papers to terminate her own rights when her son turns 14, THEN SHE IS NOT A MOTHER.

It doesn't matter if she is still getting every other weekend until that point. She has already made it clear to SS and to everyone else that she is not his mother. I am not judging her character in any way, or the character of anyone else who has chosen to terminate their rights. I'm simply saying that she is not a parent, and no considerations should make for her under the assumption that she is a parent.

As such, she ought to move the hell out of the way for whoever steps up to the plate, which just so happens to be Jsmom. She is trying to do the right thing, and in her situation pretty much everything she does is going to be problematic. So, whatever works out best for SS--especially considering his mother has chosen to terminate her parental rights next year--is what Jsmom ought to be doing.

Which I think is exactly what she is trying to do.

Also, having every other weekend does not necessarily imply custody of any sort. I know several custodial parents who still permit every other weekend visitation with parents who have completely signed over all their rights. It's not unusual at all.

I also think that those people are not actually parents. Creating a situation where you have no legal or real responsibility for your children, and living in a way that you can pick and choose when to deal with them, is not parenting. That's more like being an extended relative who occassionally asks for a visit.

I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes with this, but I think many of the posters in this thread are assigning too much validity to biological contributions while ignoring the choices made by the BM which clearly indicate she does not wish to be this boy's mother.

Jsmom's picture

Drug addicted BM, you have me confused with someone else. I have a situation where the Stepkids of BM have been expelled and are bad influences, but I have never said drug addicted.

I have no made any mistake here, I am trying to do what is right for this boy. She is trying to step up and it is too little too late.

Wow - you have gone off the deep end. I have never bashed BM. EVER like this...

hismineandours's picture

I am confused. Are her rights being terminated when he turns 14? Or is she just giving up visitation? If she is just giving up her visition she retains legal rights to him and that would include volunteering at the school, having access to all his records. Perhaps she thought since she willnot be visiting him much longer then at least she could be involved at school?

i agree that it is really not the teachers role to navigate complicated family issues adn she can't really tell the bm not to attend-I read it as she talked with her about it not that she told her she couldnt be there.

And I am sooo not trying to be mean, but to me the email sounds as if you are two women who cant get along with one another and are fighting over ss. I also dont think it was right for you to state that ss is uncomfortable around bm right now-maybe he is-but that would be his place to share that if he liked.

Jsmom's picture

My SS has anti-social behaviors. Very smart kid but he is not able to tell teachers things. So in explaining this to her as my DH asked me to, I am avoiding any drama for him.

Look BM and I do not fight. You have to talk to someone for that. I have not heard her voice in over 2 years. Just emails and texts. I do not talk to her, email her nothing. I have created emails and texts but have never actually sent one except for one letter two years ago when she did something to my son. That is it...Other steps on here have way more communication with BM than I do. So there is no animosity, just hate for her, but I would never do anything in public. I just do not want my SS any more uncomfortable than he already is.

hismineandours's picture

I understand that you are not literally fighting-I said it just appeared that way from the letter to someone that does not know the whole situation-such as the teacher. I think it also opens the door for the teacher to speak to bm and ask questions and for bm to spew her side of the story and ultimately who knows who the teacher will believe? For me, I would just identify the situation as drama and probably think both of you had something to do with it.

Madam Hedgehog's picture

Okay, what I don't understand here is how much credence some of the posters are giving to the legal system and designations.

Almost every step parent I know has been royally screwed by the legal system. Most of them have endured grossly unfair and immoral living situations (not to mention legal situations) due to the fact that the legal system is completely ineffective.

So, why do we keep citing "the law" as a way to tell Jsmom she did the wrong thing? "The law" keeps abused children in INSANE households for years. The law screws fathers out of their children and their money so that the kids can be raised by women who want to date sex offenders and drug addicts.

There is nothing inherently moral or ethical about the law or what's legal, and most of the people here know that.

So, morally, what did Jsmom do wrong? If this woman has signed a paper saying she doesn't want to be his mother, and he doesn't want anything to do with her, then why shouldn't she try to protect him from more confusing and upsetting situations concerning a woman who has already chosen the exit the relationship?

I don't get it.

hismineandours's picture

I am not talking about whether she did something morally wrong or not. However, I am saying she has no LEGAL right to tell the school that bm needs to be kept away. It could be the most moral thing in the entire world to keep the bm away-but it still doesnt change the fact that she can't make the school do it. And to try to do it would simply be an exercise in frustration and probably make her look like a crazy sm.

To me, it is one of the pick your battle things. If the parental rights are truly be terminated (which I have a hard time believing)then in 9 months Jsmom does have the ability to keep bm as far away as she likes. She can adopt and she can volunteer anytime she likes with no concern about bm. Why not just wait? Let bm do her last rodeo, roll your eyes, and move on?

If she has just given up her visitation, but retains legal rights, she is not going to be able to keep bm away from the school if she wants to go. And if she tries, she risks just angering the bm and increasing her chances of doing it MORE just to annoy Jsmom. While perhaps if it is just ignored, no drama results the bm will get bored with it quickly and move on.

Jsmom's picture

The court would not take her legal rights away at SS request until he is 14. That is why she has visitation until July. All of this is what SS wanted. She willing has agreed to sever her legal and custodial rights with SS as long as my DH did the same for SD15.

hismineandours's picture

So I may be slow here-but am still confused. Are her rights being terminated when he is 14? Courts are typically very reluctant to terminate rights OR is she just giving up custody? Giving up visitation? And your dh is terminating all rights to his dd forever? I dont even understand why a judge would allow this or why you would do this. I sure hope you mean you guys just decided not to have a visitation order.

Jsmom's picture

No she and DH are signing a document giving up legal and physical custody. She is afraid DH will go for SD again and she would lose her. So he insisted on him doing this and he said the same thing...

aggravated1's picture

1) Try to go back and read what is really going on here.

2) try responding to the correct person. The OP and I are different posters.

3) And I have no intention of changing my saying on my posts, lol. If it bothers you so much, perhaps I struck a nerve about yourself? Hmm. The spelling and grammar are quite similar.

As much as you would like to think that all BM's are these angelic creatures (and I am a BM myself) some of them truly do suck. It's reality. Live with it.

And who's SS's mom is being beat by her BF? What did I miss? And why would I care?

Jsmom's picture

I leave for one hour to take a make-up tango lesson with DH and all hell breaks loose. I knew people weren't going to like this situation, but Holy Hell....

aggravated1's picture

Well at least you weren't out doing something for SS that his mom could have done!

Just kidding, but I couldn't resist. Wink

dragonfly5's picture

Wow, very passionate opinions on this subject.

This is why I know my role. I am not the mom. They have a mom her name is crazo but they have a mom. I will never be and do not want to be their mom.

Teachers deal with this everyday and most of them have learned the hard way no matter what it's the birth mom and dad that the state views to have the rights to the child.

It is very admirable that you have invested so much into your stepson. He will be better in the long run because of your choice to be a very involved step mom. But remember she is the mom...even a piece crap gets the right to still be called mom.

I hope the events are drama free and you enjoy them with your stepson.

aggravated1's picture

He didn't beat BM- it was someone else since he has a criminal history. I never said it was BM. I was simply stating the facts. How is that making fun???? :? Very, very weird.

The rest of what you wrote-YOU ARE STILL getting the posters confused.You really are not making much sense. Perhaps you could make a chart on who is who before responding again so as to be less confusing?

I didn't say anything good or bad about your grammar. I said with your writing you sounded like DH's ex. Take that however you want. She never had an English professor, though.

Try to have a nice day.

MamaBecky's picture

Jocejay,

although you are responding to aggravated 1, who you feel has a questionable signature, aggravated 1 is not the one that wrote the original, post so aggravated 1 is not the one that wrote the letter to the teacher and is not the one claiming that her ss's bm gave up parental rights. That original poster is Jsmom.

Just trying to help.

aggravated1's picture

Right! LOL-and she is worried about my signature.

Unless she is dating said girlfriend beater (BM seems to not have a problem with it) or is direly in need of conditioner, I have no idea why she is so upset.

aggravated1's picture

I know! Like I would even want to go on a field trip with my SK's, let alone crackhead! LOL

dragonfly5's picture

"I love the run along and buy some conditioner for your hair" part truthfully.

Every time I read it makes me smile....

Aggravated1 don't let her ruffle you, it isn't worth it.

aggravated1's picture

Thanks, dragonfly.

And she really, really, really does need conditioner. If I felt more friendly towards her, I would tell her to rub some coconut oil in that mess and go sit out in the sun for an hour or so.

But alas. She shall have to remain the frizzy headed crackhead, as opposed to the smooth and shiny haired crackhead.

dragonfly5's picture

Some things never change! Neither will your BM. Her choices or her hair! LOL!

I want to say run along crazo and buy another moo moo to wear to the skids school. The last one I saw you in was SO atractive!

aggravated1's picture

OMG you are fucking kidding me.
BECAUSE I AM NOT THE ORIGINAL POSTER. THIS IS NOT MY SITUATION. GO BACK AND READ THE ORIGINAL POST AND LOOK AT THE NAME UNDERNEATH THE HEADER. THEN LOOK AT MY POST.

LOOK AT MY NAME.

I WAS RESPONDING TO THE ORIGINAL POST.

THE NAMES ARE DIFFERENT.

SEE?

I WILL HOLD ON WHILE YOU CHECK...................................
...............................................................

SO THERE IS NO STEPSON. THERE IS NO TEACHER I GAVE AN ULTIMATUM TO.
DO YOU GET IT????????

JESUS CHRIST.

twopines's picture

Submitted by jociejay on Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:54am.

>>>I am not getting the posts confused.<<<

Yes, you are. It's time to stop.

Madam Hedgehog's picture

I think what Aggravated is trying to say is that she is not the original poster. She isn't the one who is involved with SS, BM, and the whole school situation. She is just another steptalker responding to Jsmom (the original poster). So, her signature doesn't really apply to the situation.

Also, since none of us can really verify what any poster claims, and none of the posters can "prove" that their version of events is true, then it's sort of pointless to accuse them of lying about the situation, unless it's completely obvious that the poster is lying--which in this case I don't think it is.

Also, you said that BM is more likely losing her rights because of SM's interference. From my experience, and from the experience of most of the posters here, it's almost impossible to deny a biological parent their rights even if it's in the best interest of the child. So, that alternative is probably not actually the case.

As for Aggravated's signature line, I think simply asking about the situation might be a better alternative. Personally, I can see a few different possible scenarios wherein choosing to date a girlfriend beater might seem a bit more like karma than victimization. Just a thought.

overit2's picture

OMG lol Jacie....aggs sign line is one thing, the OP JSmom is the one that wrote to the school...if you're gonna get pissy at least get your posters right...wow

stepfamilyfriend's picture

Wow, this degenerated quickly. Jociejay, you have some points, but the way you present them, besides getting you scorn, will not be heard. It happens all the time, one has a point, but how they say it, it shuts down any chance of getting across..
Jsmom, I think you put something out there when you said" and a little evil....". I would just look at that, what made you say that. Maybe you know it was a bit much, even though you feel like it was legitimate.
None of us know all that your family has been through.
If it feels a little uneasy, maybe it wasn't the right thing, but WE ALL HAVE MADE MISTAKES. It's easy to come down on somebody online and sometimes we come down hardest on those that make the same mistakes we have made, because we are still struggling with it, and this seems like a way to purge it, telling someone else it's VERY, VERY BAD, and it somehow redeems us.
It's a new day, I hope things get better.

aggravated1's picture

"Jociejay, you have some points, but the way you present them, besides getting you scorn, will not be heard. It happens all the time, one has a point, but how they say it, it shuts down any chance of getting across.."

In this case, it's not how you say it. It is WHO you say it to.

Jsmom's picture

I felt a little evil that the teacher actually called the BM. I did not ask for it at all. What feels evil is the Karma that is happening to BM now. She accused me of overstepping when we got engaged on some things. Then when she sued us for SD15, she accused me in a letter to her lawyer that I never showed any love to her children. Then I was accused of beating my SD for the next go round. Eventually giving up SD15 and then SS asked to no longer live there. So yes I feel good that SS wants me to do this for him and I feel a little evil for doing it to BM.

texstep's picture

Valid points about a person and situation that doesn't exist? You said JSmom shouldn't have contacted the school because she's a bad person for thinking abuse of women is funny.... She doesn't. She wrote because her SS said he was uncomfortable with his mom being there, and she didn't want to make it worse by coming to an event if BM was going to be there too. the teacher chose to inform BM that JSmom was going to be at the event, and BM is seemingly choosing not to come.

Aggravated has a joking signature, because her skids bm has a boyfriend that had a domestic violence record before he started dating BM, and BM tells them (agg and her DH) that "they are just jealous of her healthy relationship". Its a joke based on BM's own statements, and facts about her boyfriend. The joke is that BM could actually believe AGG would want to be with someone who is domestically violent.

SO no. you really didn't make any valid points.

stepfamilyfriend's picture

Actually she did make some valid points here and there, even though she did confuse two people, and admitted to that.
So maybe now we can stop, right. I mean how many more LOL's and jumping on her do we need? Is this like kicking someone when they are already down, just one more kick, for good measure?
No one likes to be ganged up on, no matter what mistake they made. Goes for OP, goes for this new (I assume) poster.

aggravated1's picture

Stepfamilyfriend-
Listen-this may have happened a few days ago, but I feel the need to put a stop to the kum-ba-ya bullshit.
There was no JUMPING on her. And there was no GANGING up. She is a grown up, she put her two cents in, and she got it wrong.
Frankly, it pisses ME off that you are even attempting to twist this around so that myself and others who tried to tell her NUMEROUS times that she was wrong are somehow at fault.
Remember that, next time you are backing up Oi Vey.

stepfamilyfriend's picture

Aggravated one, if you want to be pissed off, go ahead . It seemed a bit much to me and I have seen it before. It has nothing to do with Kumbaya. Sometimes enough is just enough and that is what it seemed like to me.

aggravated1's picture

It seemed a bit much to have to tell someone OVER AND OVER again that was verbally attacking you to stop and they were speaking to the wrong person???? When she was the one attacking?

What. The. Fuck. Ever. That is beyond stupid that anyone would think otherwise. That kind of idiocy is not worth my time.

stepfamilyfriend's picture

Name calling now? So you are having a bad day and want to pick a fight? Did I call you names?

aggravated1's picture

Who is name calling? Unless you think what I said applies to you, no names were called.
I said anyone. Why do you think that means you? The fact that you choose to believe I am talking about you says a lot. Maybe you are the one trying to pick a fight? Please try to calm down.

stepfamilyfriend's picture

Yeah whatever. Being stupid is not one of my insecurities. Go ahead and blog about how aggravated you are. Meantime I get along with BM, DH does not blame me (!!) and the skids don't hate me. There must be something wrong in my approach indeed.

aggravated1's picture

Well good for you! And now I wonder why you are hanging out on a Stepparent vent board if life is so peachy. I definitely don't think I would be here if everything was sunshine and roses. But not my business how you spend your free time.
It's just odd, that's all. It is good to know that you have no insecurities about being stupid. That would be sad.

stepfamilyfriend's picture

No not everything is peachy. Being a stepmom has been hard and painful. There will always be another issue to tackle , but I don't look to fight. I could get nasty too, but I try not to.

stepfamilyfriend's picture

I even said no one likes to be ganged up on, including OP, which covers those that attacked her.

lmac's picture

Here's the thing though, SM is allowed to call or email anyone she damn well pleases. Since THE TEACHER called BM and asked her not to attend, I'm assuming that THE TEACHER realized no one was overstepping any boundaries.

The kid doesn't want her there. Sucks, but it's true, and the SM's trying to help.

lmac's picture

Seems to me some people just don't like to think that "THE MOM" could be wrong. Maybe it makes them worry that one day their SM or XH will step up and they might be called wr-wr-wr-wrong.

Jsmom's picture

Teacher did not ask her to not attend. Just told her that I would be there. Re-read. I had to as well. I didn't realize it until I re-read it several times.

lmac's picture

Whatevs. The point I was making is that if the teacher didn't give a fig about what you said, then she didn't have to do a damn thing. But god forbid we get a little fact wrong because then some lovely ladies here will pick it apart. Wink

Obviously, she cared what you said and did whatever she did.

Your BM's an idiot. And I take offense to any adults telling other adults what they can or cannot do and several posters on this thread who are whining on about overstepping boundaries.

Dear BM,
I'll do as I damn well please. Don't like it, go whine about it to the teacher or whoever else you feel like I overstepped boundaries with. All you're gonna get is a face like this: :? :O :?

ownpersonalopinion1's picture

JS-I think ss is lucky to have you. The bottom line is-you are the one taking care of him and he wants you there and not his mom. You may not be his birth "MOM" but you are doing everything a mom does. I read the email from the teacher and I took it as to mean she preferred you there. It seems like you love ss more than birth mom.

I think child's well being and wishes trump "MOM" if that is what you would call her.

JS..go with your heart.

Doubletakex3's picture

JS - I think you did the right thing. It would be different if SS didn't want you there. Who cares if you "stepped on" bullshit rights of the birth mother. I don't buy into the business of legal rights of shitty parents (and I work in the legal profession). If a parent has to resort to their "legal rights" it's a sign that they have lost their place in the child's heart so they can pack sand and slither away as far as I'm concerned.

Everyone wants to feel like they are loved and that's the gift you are giving your SS. The real tragedy is the b.s. you are having to go thru to provide it, IMO.

It is amazing to me that the schools / teachers are so perceptive of the dynamics. The principal called my FDH after an incident we had with BM and, in a very diplomatic way, asked if BM was crazy.

Rock on, girlfriend.

Jsmom's picture

She remains his mom, no one can take that away. But she insisted that DH give up custody and legal rights of SD and so she will do the same for SS. The papers are still going back and forth because they are disgreeing over the two weeks of vacation that she wants this summer. SS doesn't want to and neither does DH. So now, it goes back and forth again. But, effectively after 14 she is waiving all her rights. I think the whole thing is stupid and both parents are unable to be adults and do what is best for the children. What a waste.

Jsmom's picture

He wanted no visitation with his mom. Judge would not sign off on that until he was 14. The lawyers proposed EOWE until he turns 14 and then it is up to him to see his mom. Same situation we have with SD15.

cant win for losin's picture

I dont think you over stepped at all. SS asked for YOU to do it. End of story. I commend your efforts of not only "volunteering" per SS request but being involved period. Also i think it was mature, and smart to email the teacher ahead of time. Giving the teacher the heads up of an " uncomfortable" situation that may arise if a, b, and c happens.
The teacher tried to take care of the problem in the best way she could. It is not reasonable to expect teachers or other outsiders to coordinate this and that because so and so dont get along, or dont like each other.
Which means we need to take it to the next level and decide how to make the situation the most comfortable. Not
go? Go and avoid the person? Go before the person comes? (And im talkin in any situation now)
SM did right i think. She didnt go for a different reason, but it made the situation not esscalate.
I think in the future the SS should let the teachers know he doesnt want BM to volunteer for anything.