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Instagram's sneaky feature that I didn't know about

foreverbrunetteexblonde's picture

Ok so I've always hated the fact that kids have cell phones, period. Mostly b/c of all the social media crap... which they do NOT need.  I get having a phone to call and text but this whole Instagram and SnapChat thing is rediculous. I have a step daighter who just turned 14 and who is ADDICTED to her phone! I absolutely HATE the fact that both at her mom's house and ours her mom and dad seem to just trust her to have her phone at all times of the day and night. 

Am I the only one who thinks having a phone at school during class shouldn't be allowed!!?? Put them all into a dish as soon as you enter the class or something... my SD is on hers all day! I fit was up to me she wouldn't have her phone at school at all.

And am I also the only one who thinks having their phone in their bedroom past a certain time of the night should NOT be allowed?!!  We have a rule that it goes on the counter at 9:30pm every night, but on the nights this doesn't happen but DH doesn't want to upset his daughter by telling her to stick to the rule... so I end up doing it and I'm seen as the bad guy. 

I've come to realize that instagram has a sneaky little feature that allows our kids to send private messages to eachother that dissapear after a few seconds. Simliar to SnapChat. I've always known you can send messages (DM) to eachother through instagram, just like standard texting. But this... this private message thing... is just sneaky!  I'll admit I check in every so often on her phone to see who she's talking to. I noticed all of these "Opened" messages going back and forth on instagram. I figured I'd do some research on what these "Opened" messages back and forth between her and some friends and also between her and her crush were all about. I wasn't able to view anything just by clicking on them. After looking into it it's a private message that you send (it can be text, picture or video) that only the recipient can view but they can view it for only a few seconds then it dissapears...

What would the point of this feature be?!!! 

Am I paranoid? Do other parents look through their kids phones?  I feel it's a definate must to be honest.

Last night I made my SD put her phone on our kitchen counter at 9:45pm. She was 15 min late in doing so. My DH and I went to bed around 10pm. I heard my SD go downstairs, so I turned my Instagram on and looked into my messages between her and I and it shows you this person is "Active Now" or "Active 1hr ago" etc... She was "Active Now". DH didn't know what to do about it... he didn't want her to know that we knew she was on her phone... ARGH!

I've decided to go into our internet settings and limit her phone and laptop access to our wireless on certain days and times. I'm tired of being the bad guy and always reminding her to put her phone away. 

What would you guys do? How do all of you handle internet/social media use between both houses? I know both at mom or dad's houses a lot of times have different rules. Do any of you think it's appropriate to let her mom know what I've decided to do at our house to limit internet access? I'd love for her mom's house to do the same, but I cannot control what they do over there... 

I feel like I sound like an uptight bitch, I'm not usually... trust me! I'm just tired of kids seemingly having all this control over things and 'outsmarting' their parents... when really us as parents need to be taking the control back.. they feel like they're intitled to things with no reprocutions for when rules don't get followed!

Rant over... lol 

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JanRebecca's picture

My friend has an app that runs all her daughters text messages through her phone and her daughter is aware of this - but it doesn't monitor snap chat or instagram - personally I hate both of those!  I think children/teenagers should def be limited with phone/interenet time. I don't have one of that age yet so maybe I will feel differently then but I would limit it!

 

ESMOD's picture

No.. you do not need to tell her mother what you are doing to limit her access to internet.  BUT... keep in mind the phones work even when not on wifi.. so all that may do is create a data issue for the person paying the phone bill if it isn't an unlimited plan.

On the other hand.  Your DH should be able to discuss issues of concern surrounding the phone because it relates to the girl's well being.  If he knows she may be doing something that could be dangerous or cause harm.. he is obligated morally to let her mother know so that she can also be on lookout for problems.

So, maybe the conversation surrounds the fact that he has discovered she is sending a lot of messages on IG that are able to disappear.  He is worried of the content and the fact that the girl is making an effort to hide activity.  Maybe there is an app that could be placed on the phone that would allow the parents to monitor this activity even if it is deleted?  He can share that he limits her access to the phone itself.. but just cutting off wifi won't do much if she has a data plan to run up.

foreverbrunetteexblonde's picture

Thanks for your comment. They don't have Data abled on her phone thank goodness!  Yeah I'm thinking of having a talk with DH this weekend about all of this and telling him he should probably call her mom about it just so she's aware. The whole private message thing is just too suspicious. 

DaizyDuke's picture

I agree with everything you said.  BUT it sounds like your DH is a pansy ass and doesn't want to upset his poopsie by being a parent, so yo'reu either stuck disengaging and ignorning it or being the bad guy. 

Our BS8 will not have a cell phone or social media for as long as I can possibly hold out.  He does have a tablet that he plays games on every now and then ( and I mean he'll play for 15 minutes or so a couple times a week), but he does not have Snapchat or FB or Musicly or any of that crap that opens the door for predators and foolishness between kids. We also have no video games in our house (Wii, PS, XBox etc)  IF BS8 wants to play a game we play Monopoly, Jumanji, checkers etc.  Gaming systems are another thing that I think has been a HUGE contributing factor to the downfall of society.  My SS19 is a big gamer... gaming has gotten him nowhere... other than being a highschool drop out, pothead, no job, still living with BM etc. I'll never understand the point of it, other than I think crappy parents use gaming systems as babysitter for their kids.  If the kid is holed up in their room, not bothering mom or dad for hours, who cares what they are doing?  Nope, not in my house.

Blah!  Sorry, all this stuff gets me really riled, I'll hop down from my soapbox now

 

Saint_Gus's picture

I think its something that is hard for our generation to get used to. I used to stress big time over it. Now....I really feel that not allowing kids the same social media outlets their peers have makes them somewhat of an outcast. My kids know that if I want to see their stuff they will let me, but I also can't remember the last time I checked them. I snapchat with them (only them lol because i hate it but they snapchat me) and look at their instagram and finsta accts but i really try to respect their privacy. I'm a VERY private person and the thought of ANYONE seeing my thoughts or convo's would give me anxiety, even if there's nothing to hide, so I respect that. BOTTOM LINE I think if you don't have a good open honest relationship with your kids, no amount of spying or restriction will give you the info you need to keep them safe. I trust my kids. They tell me more than I want to know because they know they can trust me and I trust them. Spying on their accounts and not trusting them is a sure fire way to ensure that they will never have a respectful, trusting relationship with you, and that's the best way to keep them safe.

Harry's picture

Because of all of the schools shooting.  Most schools have a mass text messing app. That they can text all the students, teachers, staff and parents. That something is going on and they should lock down is a safe place.

So most parents want there chrildren to have phone on them at all times.   And parents can get in touch with there chrildren in a emergency.  Right or wrong 

DaizyDuke's picture

huh? I work in a school.  If something is going on an announcement is made that building is on lock down or shelter in place or what have you.  That is MUCH quicker than taking the time to type out some text message.  I have never heard of such a thing.  Parents don't get notified unless there is a reason to pick students up early or late because of the lockdown, or until AFTER the fact.. if it's even necessary at all.  

Students do NOT need their phones in class period.  If parent has an emergency of some sort that requires notifying a student, they can call the main office and student be sent down to speak to parent.  This is just silly excuses to try and justify nonsense.  

Saint_Gus's picture

Its not just a silly excuse. Phones would be helpful in that scenario. A PA announcement isn't going to reach parents. Our school district allows students to have their phones with them in class, and I'm sure that's one of the reasons, amongst others. Kids that are raised properly can have their phones on their bodies without being disruptive. And those that haven't been raised properly will figure out other ways to be PITA's. 

oneoffour's picture

Why do parents need to rush to the school in a lock down situation? So they can block the roads so law enforcement cannot get through? 

There will always be the disruptive kids in school and the rule-benders who will ruin it for everyone else. People under the age of 21 are not wired to make decisions for long term consequences.

OP, I agree with blocking your SD. And you are not the bad guy. You are an adult making an adult decision. If SD says anything just tell her she is a minor and does not get a vote. When she graduates high school and can pay for her own service then she gets a vote.  Just make it clear to DH that nothing good happens under the blankets for 14 yr old girls with cell phones at night. 

s-kill me's picture

We do the "on the counter at 9:30" with SS14 also.  Although he's been grounded from even having a cell phone for like 2  months, so it has been a non-issue.

Other than that, and checking their usage, I don't know how to monitor much.  We've yet to find an app that allows you to see EVERYTHING they use the phone for.  So if you figure something out, please share with us!

Also, I just want to disagree with Harry.  BM tried to pull the "he needs the phone in an emergency" stuff too.  No kid NEEDS a cell phone.  We did not have cell phones.  I've been a teacher in several school districts, and cell phones have never been allowed in class.  That's simply untrue.

--figureditout--'s picture

My boys are 13 and 15. Both have smartphones. They don't stay on them all the time. Youngest keeps his in his locker during school hours. Oldest carries his. Their schools have some sort of lockdown program that won't allow certain sites.

They're good kids as a result of watching their idiot stepsister and being raised with respect and to respect.

Neither use social media other than Google and YouTube. I know what they do on both because I check. I check internet history as well. We talk often about things happening in our community.

thinkthrice's picture

A scuffle with teachers at school for failing to put the phone away during class.  It's not like they are learning anyway as it is not required by BFFing Girhippo.

Cut the wifi off at bedtime for her using the ACL (make sure your router has a very complex password) Most routers have parental controls now.  No guest networks either. You can find some stuff out by having a faux instagram acct.

https://webwatcher.com/phone/index.html

 

foreverbrunetteexblonde's picture

Thanks for all the comments and help on this.  I was able to do some research this weekend and gained access to our internet settings so we have set time limits on when my SD is able to access our wireless. So our wireless blocks her phone from having access after 9:30 on school nights and 10 on weekends and the phone still goes on the kitchen counter at those times. We've informed her mom what we're doing and it sounds like she agrees and will be doing the same thing over there. I know that our SD is not supposed to use data on her phone - her mom and step dad keep track of the data to be sure she's not using it (her mom and step dad pay for her phone).

After talking with some friends of mine they informed me some of the 'disappearing' texts on instagram might just be that they want to protect themselves against other friends/kids in school from passing on "Look what she said to me yesterday" or "She has a crush on ..." etc... so it may not be anything for us to worry about.  We're going to trust that for now until we can prove otherwise. We'll still check in on her phone every so often b/c I believe that's a must when raising teens but I'm going to try and relax and trust that we've raised our SD right and will trust her more to make right decisions. Trust goes a long way. If she ever breaks that trust or respect then things will be dealt with at that time. 

Thanks all!

TrueNorth77's picture

I am jealous that you were just able to make the decision to change the wireless settings for her phone on your own! SS12 was abusing his bedtime, and I could hear him on his phone at 11:45pm on school nights sometimes. I was home with them, but knew my SO would freak if I changed the settings for his phone (also, the wifi account is in my SO's name so I didn't have login info handy). It ended up being a HUGE fight, where I had to stand my ground and tell him this was not going away- if he wanted me to have a decent relationship with his Son, he would do something about the phone use after bedtime, because I wasn't just going to stand by while his son blatantly ignored rules. He ended up setting the wifi to turn off on his phone at 11pm (his bedtime is 10:30!!), because he "didn't want SS to think we didn't trust him". Um...

We also had an issue with snapchat. I agree with you 100%, I think it is ridiculous for kids to have all this stuff, and really, no good can come from kids having snapchat. My best friend's 11yr old daughter had it. One day a detective showed up on their doorstep, saying that her daughter and her slutty little friend had sent a topless pic to a "friend" on Snapchat, who was posing as a teenager from a nearby town. Turns out the "teenager" was actually a 50yr old man. Anyway, my SO and I were both on the same page about no snapchat for SS12, but then one day SS12 tells me "dad let me have snapchat"! Me: What in the actual fuck? SO said he's been thinking about it for a while, and he's going to check on it periodically and he didn't want SS to be the only kid not having it. (It is true that all his friends have it). Also, we looked at his Instagram messages (I firmly believe in checking up on them), and found out that kids he plays online video games with were sending messages swearing at him, and that he wrote some inappropriate things also. Again, no good comes from it!

Idk. I still side with you, and there is no reason to have them at school. I thought most schools didn't allow phones in class? But I am outranked by my SO, so now I just shut up mostly. You seem to have more say than I do, so good for you. If i did, I would be stricter. But I have accepted that in the end they are his kids, and he can do what he wants. I just get sick of arguing about it.