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26yroldStepDad's picture

I want to thank all of those who have taken their time out and give me their insight on my situation. I would like to add that Sunday afternoon an argument broke out between my girlfriend and I in our room. Given the fact I knew she was stressed out she started screaming extremely loud, our downstairs neighbors had guests over and the last thing I wanted was for them to hear her scream, they could have easily thought the worst. I tried to cover her mouth because the volume was really loud and she started screaming, "get off of me, don't touch me!" I wasn't hitting her nor was that my plan. As this is happening my stepson walks in the room and I tell him it's best you take a walk and I escort him out of our room. He got angry and took a fighting position started swinging his arms and told me not to touch his mother. I really need some feed back please. He's only 11 and I'm thinking it's only going to get worse. I do not want to find myself in the future having a 15 or 17 year old throw a punch at me because I know at that moment my instinct would be to swing back.

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stepup's picture

First of all, laying your hands on your gf (with the intent to hurt or not) in the middle of a fight is NOT OKAY. ask her to be quiet.. take the fight somewhere else, or let the downstairs neighbors think what they will, but do NOT touch her. That is a HUGE no no!

Second.. I would sit down the SS and explain to him how PROUD (yes PROUD) you are of him for wanting to protect his mom.. but that he won't ever have to protect her from YOU (note the first of all of never laying your hands on her in a fight again!). Explain that you appreciate his concern, but some things are just between adults.. and that he needs to realise he's not part of that conversation.

Thirdly.. I would seriously again suggest family counceling for all of you. You and your gf seem to be having problems communicating.. you and your SS have problems communicating and SS and GF seem to have problems communicating. If you don't want to be having a 15 or 17 year old throw a punch down the line, better get those lines of communication, respect and what role everyone has to play in this relationship sorted out NOW.

Stepup

Little Jo's picture

Do not let this slide. You and your GF need to set him straight on what he saw, or thought he saw. You can't completely blame the kid if he thought you were taking a swing at Mom.

How often do you to get into screaming matches or was this a one time thing.
If you don't mind me asking, what else happened on Sunday afternoon, how did it end up.
Jo

26yroldStepDad's picture

well after the argument he went to his room she went to the living room and that was when i stayed in the room and found this web site. we've both been to counseling for a while together and on our own things just don't seem to get better. Screaming matches since day one and it got a little better with counseling

Little Jo's picture

It just seem that at 26, you have time. What are your favorite things about your relationship with your girlfriend and what are the worse things?
How does it weigh out?
Jo
P.s. I got to get off to make an eggplant parm. I'll check back later to see if you posted back.

26yroldStepDad's picture

Well it has really been a roller coaster ride (our relationship). To answer your question; when things between us both are good boy we have a whole lot of fun together. My favorite things about her is the fun we have together. We like the same type of music, same culture she gets along with my family BUT we come from totally diferent house holds. She's been through a lot in her past and I guess it reflects in her way of being. We've been in counseling and things started to get better but as you can see there are other problems that are coming up which are making everyday living exhausting. For example right now I'm home cause I have a bad knee but I really don't want to be here. We are constantly breaking up and getting back together and it's just getting old. I don't want to leave her alone but right now itseems it's the best thing for all of us. I may be mistaken but we've been together 3 years and it's been a constant breaking up type of thing. She's a great woman. Now a days most of our fights has narrowed down to the issues with my stepson. I feel we're both tired of "trying" and of giving the relationship another chance, we don't see it going anywhere. I don't know if she said it out of anger but she told me she needs a man that understands her. Thats what I've been trying to do for the longest, but if I see something thats not right in our house I can't always look the other way. Thank you very much for taking the time out and help me out. By the way a whole lot of people from both sides of the family believe it's better for all of us if we were to seperate.

Little Jo's picture

What about a trial separation. You said you two tend to break up and make up. What was your longest time apart?
I'm sorry for the questions, but we can only offer advice if we know alittle more.

Jo

26yroldStepDad's picture

I understand .. well the longest time apart has been 4 days, things felt like we were dating once again they were great then I came back home. RIght now nobody talks to nobody I know she's going through a lot but I feel her so distant as if I am the cause of this problem or that I did wrong by her. She's acting like when we've fought. THis is a very uncomfortable feeling.

Anne 8102's picture

This is a hard one... how to enforce appropriate behavior in your home without being the bad guy in a situation where you really don't have a whole lot of legitimate authority to do so. Welcome to our world! Wink

First, if there's a volume problem, walk away. It's better than having an innocent gesture be misinterpreted and opening up a whole new can of worms. Second, you're going to have a hard time getting a kid who is only fourteen years younger than you to respect you as a parental figure. When he was born, you weren't much older than he is now. So there's going to be a credibility problem for you to overcome. Third, it has to be clear that there are two adults in the household and he isn't one of them. Mom has to back you up 100%, not take over all dealings with him. Fourth, with all of the breaking up and getting back together, well, you guys just don't have the type of relationship where you can or should expect to be treated as a co-parent of this child. You're not... you're the sometimes boyfriend, not the stepfather and not a co-parent. I think it would be very different if you were married, engaged or at least living in a totally committed relationship and not in a situation where breaking up and getting back together is a routine occurence.

So here's the sixty-four thousand dollar question... why in the world do you want to stay in a relationship that is so unstable, especially when that instability is going to be a hugmongous hinderance when it comes to establishing your authority with this kid? You are so young and it's a very long life. The strings that tie you to this woman are not all that tight. Enduring relationships/marriages are not always fun, but if you're constantly breaking up, then why even bother trying to stay together?

I think first things have to come first. You have to establish the relationship with Mom first and you both have to commit wholly to it. Then you can work on establishing the relationship with the child. But before you make that kind of investment, and believe me, it can be a killer investment, I'd make very sure that Mom is likewise invested. If you can't be sure there won't be more break-ups down the road, then I'd take another path altogether.

~ Anne ~

Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice: Pull down your pants and slide on the ice! -M*A*S*H (Sidney Freedman to the OR staff on dealing with stress)

stamina's picture

Very well said and very articulate wording about the mutual investment required in a relationship. I agree with you completely.

dbsojo's picture

I love the man I'm engaged to...he's wonderful in every way. I'm trying to think of something I don't like about him, and I'm having trouble. He's the type of man I dreamed of marrying as a young girl. Great family, similar backgrounds, same goals for life and what we expect from it...God made him just for me.

HOWEVER, the baggage that comes with him (SS and especially BM) almost made me say no to his proposal. I had to think very long, and very hard about if I could accept the less-than-perfect people in his life. We rarely fight, and we respect each other when we do (physically, emotionally, and especially in terms of tone and volume). This is where I may be taking this a step too far...

My point is that even when confronted with the potential "perfect mate", the situation becomes very complicated when you're dealing with a person, and their kids, and their ex. It's a battle on one front or another almost every day. It is can be a very emotionally draining experience (how many of us have written that there's just no fight left in us, much less felt it?) If you can't even get along with the mom on a consistant and stable basis, how are you going to have the energy and where-with-all to deal with the kids? And what about when the ex decides to start giving you problems?

This lifestyle, although thoroughly rewarding, is very hard to take on a long term basis, and honestly it's probably impossible if you and the mom aren't on the same page and can't get along. I don't mean to be negative, but the only thing that keeps me here are those days, often few and far between, when it's obvious that these boys of mine need me, and would fall flat on their faces with out me. Now, it's my opinion that this is happening most of the time, but it's not all too often they come out and say it to me. But when they do, it's all been worth it for me. But it doesn't sound to me like you are getting any of these rewards in your family. Maybe you are, but I can't imagine going through all of this stress and pain for nothing. If it's all like that, I have better ways to spend my time.

Little Jo's picture

I was expecting you to say like, months at a time.
You mentioned she is going through alot right now. Does she share with you or keep it bottled up?
26, 4 days is really not a break up. Maybe it's time to do a 30 day trial separation.
I'm sorry but I have to ask 1 last question and it is a loaded one.
Just a yes or no answer, no details.
Have you ever hit her and/or she hit you.?

26yroldStepDad's picture

Well I know most of the things she's going through but it's not like she says I'm sad or stressed out. I know she's going through a lot cause I see it. To answer the last question yes from both ends. EVeryone I know tells me it's better if we get seperated but she told me last night she'll respect my decision but then I'd have to respect hers meaning she won't speak to me in a while and maybe who knows what will happen ... maybe a break up. Thanks again Little jo

Little Jo's picture

I'm really sorry. You have to separate and possibly for good. It is NEVER EVER healthy to be in a relationship that can esculate into violence. I think I speak for everyone here that, at one point or another, we have been in an unhealthy relationship. That we have all felt emotional abuse. Lord knows I have. At your age I had spent 6 years in an on & off relationship. I truley beleive he was the right one for me, even though I knew in my heart, he treated me poorly most time.
Yes, when things were good between us, they great. And I hung on to that for dear life, so afraid of losing him.
I don't know your whole story, but you have said more than enough.
Either get serious counseling or end it.
And beware. It will not be easy to end a relationship that holds such strong feelings.
Please stay in touch, especially over the next few days.
Jo

26yroldStepDad's picture

Well we just finished having a long talk. I totally expressed my feelings and so did she in a healthy manner (we've both been to counseling). It's almost as if we both know it's best to separate but at the end of our talk she told me,"i've always believed that nothing is easy in life and if I got into this relationship, it was to stay together for good, everything is possible." This totally threw me off and I guess you can figure out why. Please help THans soooo much.

tyra's picture

I agree with little jo...if it has escalated to violence then it is time to get out before some one gets hurt or SS learns some bad behaviours. Toxic relationships are just that. I was with someone for 11 years. Met when we were 24. Luckily no kids. I look back now and think how i wasted some prime years of my life. It too was a toxic relationship and I held on for all the wrong reasons. He got smart had finally had the nerve to end it. I thank him everyday.

I know it is hard to think this far ahead but it is a long road ahead. You are still young enough to get it together and meet someone who is right for you. Sometimes we are so insecure within ourselves that we misread the toxic behaviours. Love is about kindness, respect, love, security. And you can find these. She may think you are not doing her a favour but in the long run she will see that you were wrong together.

Good lOck

Little Jo's picture

about her. How old is she? When did you meet her and how? What was her upbringing like?

26yroldStepDad's picture

She's 30, we met through a friend actually in a kareoke place 3 years ago. She comes from a family that well dad wasn't around and she moved to the USA and she had a step father here. Her upbringing very different in that sense than mine. My parents are still together, it's a tight family. SHe told me today that my stepson told her over the last long weekend Presidents day weekend that his father told him that soon they (my girlfriend, stepson and his father) were going to get back together and live together. I guess that explains ss behavior. So basically in SS eyes I'm an obstacle that keeps his dad and mom from being together. (She's told him many of times through the past years that's not going to happen). I still don't know hsould I stay or should I go. Thanks to Everyone

Little Jo's picture

It's like you have a two fold problem.

1st. is your relationship with her. Exclude SS for a moment. You said your-self the srceaming matches were from day one. And you have also admitted to that you two are not above taking a swing at each other from time to time. That alone is so not good whether there are good time or not. IT'S NOT HEALTHY.

2nd. Now add the SS. As if he's not having a good enough time with the start of puberty, he got a Father who is clearly not over Mom.

I think I still have to go with a 30 day trial separation or at less two weeks. With no communication, none, zero. Stay with a friend or something.

Maybe before the separation, you can both write down the things you love about each other, the things you don't and what you want the future to be. Set a date to meet back and discuss what you learned and how you feel.

What do you think?

Jo