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Ninji's picture

I'm still thinking about Gunner's situation and how his wife told the therapist that she doesn't consider his kids as living in their home.

To be honest, I feel this way about SD (and SS before he moved in full time)

When I first met DH we had the skids every single weekend and ALL holidays breaks. Five years later, BM gets married and decides that her and new stepdad are the skids "real family" and visitation was cut down to every other weekend (this is what is actually in the CO) and she kept the kids during holiday's because new stepdad's family "deserved" to be with them more than DH did.

Once we went to every other weekend, it stopped feeling like they lived with us. 4 overnights a month? We are still mostly on that schedule with SD.

DH and I had a conversation about it. He feels like she lives with us but I don't. She still has her own room and we take her whenever we can (stepdad is out of the picture so BM doesn't care how much we get SD now).

Just wondering if anyone else feels this way about skids that are on a limited visitation schedule.

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stepmomof1biomomof1's picture

I feel this way about SD13. We get her EOW, supposed to get her 50% of summer (not happening this summer) and a week at Christmas.

My DS12 from my XH is with us 100% of the time because his dad is not involved.

I do not feel like our home is SD home. She has her own room and stuff but she completely disrupts the flow of things when she is there.

zerostepdrama's picture

It's been a long time since the girl skids have stayed with us, but I always felt like they were visitors.

I'm sure when DH had his own place, the girl skids felt like his place was there home when they were there. They basically took it over and were true mini wives.

When we moved in together into our house, for me it was hard for me to share "my" home with kids who weren't consistently there and who I felt like didn't respect me. Plus it was clear from the beginning that they did feel like it was THEIR home with Dad and I as just staying there. :? But by the time DH and I moved into our home, the relationship with the skids had begun to sour. They just felt like intruders to me.

SS lived with us when we first got the house and I did feel like it was his house but we had strict rules for him. Then later when he stayed with us again for 3 months, we didn't even give him a key. He had to be in a certain time or we wouldn't open the door for him.

My BS who doesn't see his dad a lot (except in the summer) says that his dad's house feels like his second house. I have seen texts from his dad to BS that says "I can't wait for you to come home." So they both feel like his home is also BS's home.

nengooseus's picture

I don't feel like skids live with us. We have about 36% custody, so a month in the summer and every other weekend for 4 days. In fact, it irritates the pee out of me that they have their own rooms. I could use that additional space, but we keep it closed off. I mean, we use it if we have guests, but that's it.

Ninji's picture

Sometimes I get annoyed that we have empty rooms for 26 days a month. When we got our cat, I was keeping it in SD's room for a few days until it got used to our 3 dogs. DH made a big deal about using "his daughters room" Also, had my brother visit. DH got mad because he slept "his daughters room"...In both of these situations SD wasn't even with us during the times that "his daughters room" was being used.

It's MY house. I don't have guest room because HE has kids. So annoying sometimes.

hereiam's picture

Luckily, I did not have this problem with my DH. He had no issue with "SD's room" being something else when she wasn't there. He did think I was a little mean when I wouldn't let her put cat posters all over the walls, though! They both got over it.

Ninji's picture

My SD has posters on the wall. It is her room. I even painted it pink for her.

I just get annoyed with DH sometimes. I grew up in an intact home and my parents had no problem kicking us out of our rooms when an adult family member was in town. But my DH thinks my 6'4 brother should sleep on the couch and "his daughter room" shouldn't be used even if SD is at BM for two weeks.

AJanie's picture

Nope, our home is not the skids home and with EOW visitation I doubt it ever will be. They say "what time are we going home" etc. regarding BM's house. They have a room but I still call it the guest room sometimes, it is where I sleep when DH snores or is up late watching TV.

My dogs - DH - me = who lives in my home.

notsofast's picture

I agree with that.

Back before SS was PASed out, my DH would say "I need to take SS home soon".

SS didn't consider it his home, just like your skids.

For a while he lived with us FT. Then it WAS his home.

I also don't believe my mother's home with my SF is mine, just because I am welcome there pretty much any time I want to be. Home means primary residence.

AJanie's picture

Exactly.

I think DH likes to pretend it is their home, but he is 110% ready to drop them off after their weekend is over.

hereiam's picture

I didn't feel my SD lived with us. DH had her EOWE, and even that was sporadic sometimes, due to SD cancelling on him whenever she felt like it or BM just being a bitch.

School breaks and summer were still EOWE, so we never had her for an extended period of time. DH would occasionally take a few days off of work in the summer and she would come over for a few extra days but that was it.

When we bought a house, she had her own room but it was not just her room (spare bedroom/TV room).

Our niece stayed with us more than SD did, I didn't consider her living there, either.

Ninji's picture

Something came up in our home and we had a conversation about it. After reading Gunner's post the other day, it stuck in my head. So I asked.

I never said I was trying to force my definition of where SD lives on my DH and I don't believe that anyone else that has responded did either.

Ninji's picture

"how you define her time in your home"

Seemed to me like you were directing your comment to me.

notsofast's picture

On another blog many comments have said that the SM is wrong for feeling this way.

I don't feel wrong for feeling this way, but I am glad to see a post from someone else who agrees. Simply because their vitriol about it made me wonder.

So to me it matters.

TwoOfUs's picture

Huh?

No one is talking about fighting about this with their SO or making an issue of it. Just talking about how WE feel...on a forum for step parents. Not trying to "define" or control how anyone else feels...or are we not allowed to have our way of seeing things, even in private?

ESMOD's picture

I don't feel like my Skids "lived" with us, but as their father lived there, it was one of their homes.

CompletelyPuzzled's picture

I have the opposite situation because my kids are the ones who aren't always here. My SD10 is here all the time. She lives with us full-time, so yes, I do feel like this is her home. My kids are here 50% of the time, and I still feel like they live here. My son has his own room (he is the only boy) and we leave it undisturbed when he isn't here. SD10 sometimes uses his computer or his desk, but she still has to ask.

I think most kids would consider their parent's home as their own, even if they are only there part of the time. I can understand how a parent would be upset if their partner said that it wasn't skid's home. I would be pi**ed if DH said that this isn't my bios' home, as much as SD, especially as I pay a majority of the bills.

Silent14's picture

This is a part of step life that is challenging for me. I don't feel like our home is their home. They come EOWE and 50% of summer. They clearly feel right at home and take over. It feels very invasive to me, especially when they won't respect the house rules that my bios must follow.

There have been a few times SD15 has dropped by midweek and just walked into the house. It scared the bejeez out of me for a split second until I realized who was walking into my home. DH clearly has no problem with it. It makes him feel better to think of it as their home too.

There was a period of 2.5 years that SD15 lived with us. I did feel that the home was hers too while she lived with us.

WalkOnBy's picture

Yep - that move must be in the PAS playbook. Medusa would say the same things to the skids. "Can't wait til you get home." "It's just not home without you guys." "visiting your dad will be over soon" - as if seeing their own father was such a horrible thing for them to have to endure.

My kids were the ones going back and forth when DH got custody of the skids. I always felt that my kids had two homes, mine and Asshat's, even when he only had EOWE parenting time.

I NEVER told them they were going to visit their father, as I am not a fan of those who think NCPs are to be visited or only BM's house is really home.

TwoOfUs's picture

Yeah. I feel this way, too. I tried to make the skids feel welcome...did up rooms for them, shared the weekly menu with them, bought food they liked. They still talked about going to "Dad's House" vs "going home." Not their fault and not ours that the young felt that way...so why should o feel guilty that they feel like visitors to me as well?

Acratopotes's picture

my view on this....

If it's the skids home, they will do the same as any other person in the house, thus chores, cleaning up after themselves, obeying rules and respect the rules and people in the house.... regardless if they are only there 2 days out of a year or EOWE

If the skids are treated like guests and it's not their home, then why moan if they do not do chores?

Ninji's picture

This is actually one if the things that came up when DH and I had our conversation about SD "Living" at our home.

I said she does nothing but eat and sit in her room on the internet the entire time she is with us. She actually helps less that I would if I was a guest in someone's home much less living there.

DH counter that she's a teen now. Funny thing, I was once a 13yr old girl myself. I still had to help out around the house in between my brooding teen moments.

He said Fine, give her chores. So, I did. Wink

Acratopotes's picture

try and get this...

Aergia lived with SO 24/7.... and when he said it's her home, I said.. well if it's your home you maintain it you clean etc... she exploded....

I do not live there, I went on strike, no more cooking and cleaning, she complained about no dinner and I said, well it's your house, you live here, I'm only a visitor... visitors don't cook....

she moved out Blum 3

MrsZipper's picture

We have lived in our home for over 10 years and I don't think any skid has stayed here overnight, and SS was still in high school then. This is obviously not their home nor would they ever want it to be. As they liked to tell us back then, BMs home is much bigger and nicer and that is their true home, where they chose to stay during college breaks and holidays. But if I were to ever suggest to DH that our house is not their home he would have a fit. To him anywhere he is is their home, too.

secret's picture

Meh... it's my house, but... We're home. We're going home. when we drop off the kid, it's You're going home. When we come back from the store and kid is with us, we're going home. If we're taking the kid back, it's You're going home. Whatever...both places are called home for the kid.

Sometimes the kid needs clarification, so he'll as "I'm going to my mom's house?" or "we're going to your house?" but whatever.

Kid has his own room in my home. He really only sleeps there one or two nights a week... so the rest of the time, the other kids can (and do) use the room for some "quiet time" if they need to get out of each others' faces... and we keep seasonal stuff in the closet.

Although - I think it's important to note that the way I've raised my kids thus far - they're aware it's my home - I'm the one who's worked for it, pays for it, maintains is... and yes, they live with me half the time - but it's full of MY STUFF....which means they better treat everything in the home with respect, because it's not "theirs", it's "mine"; e.g: It's not their door to slam, it's mine, so if they can't treat it with respect they will not have the privilege of having one.

Where I chose to live will always be a home base for them - but it will always be my home... it will always be their mother's home... and they will treat it with the same respect as if they were a guest. Just because they're my kids doesn't mean they're entitled to crap all over everything I've worked for...

Also - they're raised that everyone who lives there contributes. That will stay with them wherever they go - whether they're with roomates, a partner, solo... everyone has to help out. Period.

SM12's picture

I don't consider this to be my SS's house at all. They have done NOTHING to help with the upkeep, no mowing, no chores. They would just come, trash the place and run out the door when it was time to go home.

DH, however, used to consider this their home too. That all stopped after an incident between OSS/MSS and BS.

BS lived with me FT and only went to XH's house maybe 4 days a month if that. SS's were here maybe one night a week and EOW.
MSS and OSS felt it was OK to go into BS's room when he wasn't here and just trash it looking for things they wanted to take. DH caught MSS trying to steal BS's new jacket and busted him for it. That was the ONLY time that MSS was ever made to apologize for anything.

The next time OSS took BS expensive headphones that BS let MSS use. They were in MSS's room and OSS felt since they were "brothers" it was ok for him to take them without telling anyone. YSS ratted him out.

I became livid. DH tried to claim that OSS thought it was OK since they were all "brothers". I pointed out that if he feels that way then BS should be allowed to waltz up into BM's house and go through the SS's rooms and just take whatever he feels he wants. DH came back with a "but that is the SS's home". EXACTLY DH...and this is BS's Home. NO difference. Your kids are visitors.....this is my kids permanent home. BS can't go up in OSS/MSS's permanent room and just do as he pleases, then they can't come into BS's room and take anything they want. DH finally got it.

We started locking BS's room whenever the SS's were here and BS wasn't. I caught them trying to open his door a few times but they couldn't get In.

Now neither MSS or OSS come over so there are no worries. But when they do come over on a rare visit, I lock BS's door. And he doesn't even live here anymore.

Tuff Noogies's picture

when mom would get bro and i for a visitation, we never felt her residence was our home. our home was the home we grew up in.

since dh is custodial, yup, my home is their home. when dh had 50/50 or more, it was their home. when dh had EOWE he did visitation at IL's, so way back then my home was not their home as much as i welcomed them.

WalkOnBy's picture

I find it so fascinating that you were raised by a custodial dad and now you are married to one...

Tuff Noogies's picture

lol yup! and back in the early 80's it was almost unheard of, especially with kids the ages we were.

loveandfitness's picture

Yes! It's hard to feel like they live with you when you don't see them often. It's the same with SS. We try very hard to treat him like he does though. Still has to follow the rules and do his chores when he's here and gets all the same privileges DH and my kids do. It's not wrong to feel this way IMHO. It's natural.

ChiefGrownup's picture

This is my skids' home. They are here every weekend and various other times. They are my dh's kids. His home is their home.

Until the one turns 18, of course. Wink