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whoami's picture

while having so much time on my hands, research has become quite the hobby. this excerpt i found both incredibly interesting and scary:

Excerpted from Games Divorced People Play, by Dr. Melvyn A. Berke and Joanne B. Grant.

"Surveys and research suggest the following:

1)"If the new parent is a stepmother, the probability of the marriage surviving and marital happiness are reduced.

2)"The role of the stepmother is considerably more difficult than of the stepfather.

3)"Stepmothers are less likely than stepfathers to achieve close ties with their stepchildren.

4)"Because men do not have to deal with the myth of the 'wicked stepfather,' society is more supportive of their role and place in the home.

5)"Regardless of her parenting skills, her stepchildren are likely to regard her with suspicion and distrust.

6)"Much of a child's anger and resentment toward his or her father is projected onto the stepmother.

7)"Stepmother-stepdaughter relationships present the greatest problems. In large measure this is a product of two women having to share the same man. Generally speaking, the older the daughter, the greater the difficulties. If the stepmother does not have open and firm support from her husband, and if the stepdaughter is allowed power and control over her stepmother, the family's chances for survival are poor.

8)"Stepmothers are more likely to establish positive relationships with younger children regardless of their sex."

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kathleen's picture

Sounds like this book should be a placed in some of our DH's X-mas stocking this year.

sunshine's picture

I agree with vickiemac Sad "cross town bus" ,,I have read the above information before,,,belive me I have researched.. And even all these Disney movies have made it hard for Step-moms---Like Cinderalla,,the wicked stepmom and evil stepdaughters...Children grew up watching this,,,and we ourselves even liked it,, But once your in that position, it isnt so cute anymore...

Frog44's picture

Thank goodness I didn't see that stuff 11 years ago!! I would have missed out on the most wonderful guy in the world (to me he is anyway! Lol and three wonderful step kids that I have a great relationship with.

Colorado Girl's picture

How much of this can be blamed on the BM? I mean we can blame society all we want and Disney, whoever causes our children to have this perception of stepmothers. But if you have a BM that is encouraging a relationship with their stepmother along with their dad - we wouldn't be so "evil". If BMs could tell their kids that we all deserve to be happy and that BM and DH together can't make each other happy, (regardless of who is the cause of the unhappiness)and we have to all move on - separate but still happy. A little cooperation would be so helpful to these stepkids to NOT have a negative outlook on these new relationships.

I agree with vickiemac and sunshine to - only I would like to throw BM in front of the "cross town bus". Biggrin Just kidding....

"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass...It's about learning to dance in the rain."

kathleen's picture

I say that all the time. If BM would encourage the kids to talk to their Dad. If the BM not share her anger... If the BM. Guess what, it is never ever going to happen. Okay maybe, if I have faith in the Universe, but I can not count on that. So what do we do then. They really have all the power. Women do, especially if they have majority of the time with the kids.

extraordinary coper's picture

Colorado Girl, I completelay agree with you....Some days, I cannot believe how a mother could teach a yaoung child to be so negative. If a BM truly wants her kid/s to be happy, than they should support their relationships despite how hard it is. The only thing my stepdaughter wants is to see and hear her mother acknowledge me and be positive towards me. She doesn't understand how there are essentially two mothers in her life who don't speak. After almost two years, the BM refuses to acknowledge my existence or the life her daughter has with me and her father. It is remarkable that her nastiness and negativity have not affected our relationship. I predict that when the child gets older (she is now 5) she will get fed up with her mother's nastiness and brainwashing efforts. This is her daughters life, she could hate me but she should just accept it and move on. She has no problem however having me take care of her daughter for days on end or take her to the doctor or even drive her to school because she won;t take the time. The child had 100 fever and she knowingly left her with me for a week but wouldn't speak to me. Who does that????? When her lack of involvment catches up with her, for example: I am more involved with the child's school than her, she will do things like embarass me and try to ban me....then she proceeds to carry on as usual until the next incident....WHAT TO DO""""

Colorado Girl's picture

Take up drinking. Smile

"For every ailment under the sun....There is a remedy, or there is none;
If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." ~ W.W. Bartley

fizzyfuzzy's picture

But in my SD13 and DH's case, they are apparently just gonna fake it with me until I break Smile Great eh??
Dawn

anastasia's picture

Wish you did not post this research! Very depressing and not one encouraging statement. We married men with children, right? let's make the most of it and work on creating positive relationships!!!

whoami's picture

these statistics are very depressing and not so encouraging. but hey, they are statistics. does that mean it's 100% in every situation? no.

i myself like to be as informed as possible and understand all angles of any situation, both positive and negative.

step-motherhood clearly is not an easy task, and virtually impossible if you are not prepared and do not know what your up against.

it's up to the step mother herself to make the situation into as positive of a situation / experience for herself as she can.

the more she knows the more wise she becomes. and sometimes she needs to go through hell first to open her eyes (like yours truly)

Elizabeth's picture

I wish I could find it, that said the BM's attitude about the situation is the No. 1 factor in how well skids adapt. In other words, if BM is resistant, you're in trouble. I think we have heard before from step moms who have good relationships with BMs, and that seems to make all the difference.

Colorado Girl's picture

You should rack your brain and remember where you read that. I would love some sort of literature that supports my whole BM theory....that she causes the majority of the conflict.

"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass...It's about learning to dance in the rain."

Seasons's picture

Ok I am writing because we have dated for 2 1\2 yrs and have talked about getting married. I just can't connect with the kids and it bothers me... It doesn't help that one of my character defects is acceptance from others...

Riley's picture

I think the BM theory is very valid. In my experience, the BM was at best, peripheral in our lives. The skids spoke on the phone with her, they visited her on occassion (once every 3 months or so), and she didn't speak to DH or me at all. She just wasn't an influential person in our daily lives. So our turmoil was rarely about how the BM acted, which is a Godsend.

But you know what, despite the sometime mother she has always been, the skids love their mother. And at every opportunity, even after 11 years with my DH and skids, they will find fault with me or at least how I influence their dad's decisions...and vilify me.

SO...I think the step-mother demonization comes from the basic human need to love your mother. If you love your mother, how can you really love another mom-figure-thing without betraying your basic need to love your mother?

Let's face it. Moms can do some pretty outrageous and even damaging things to their kids and yet the kids will still hold onto the love they have for her and nurture their image of her. Dads, not so much; they get demonized and autracized way too easily in my book.

Maybe this is simplifying it way too much, but regardless I know in my skids opinion the BM walks on water and I...well...don't. I ran the water, and filled the bath, and washed the kids, and washed the dishes and washed the laundry. So I had plenty of opportunity to walk on water, but just couldn't quite get there. Probably too busy, up to my neck in water. Smile

xyz's picture

So just to add my humble perspective to balance it a little. I'm a so called BM whose child has a really good relationship with both his dad and "stepmother" (a word I think should be banned as it completely misconstrues the role) This is for a huge part becuase of my protecting my child from the primitive, territorial attitudes (in my silent opinion)both his BF and SM have towards families/relationships. I protect him from the fact that his step mother has caused his father to choose between seeing all his kids at christmas or seeing just her and her child, I have protected him from the times that his father would not have him over at his house becasue of his SM's inability to seperate his parenting relationship with me from his past romantic relationship with me. I have protected him from any negative attitudes towards them and he has successfully formed his own positive opinions of them. I believe a lot of SMs do not truly understand what putting kid's needs first looks like in practice and cannot filter their emotions enough to see that because a BF responds to requests by the BM in relation to their child is not automatically a power play where the BF is giving the BM more attention/power/time or whatever you think you are perceiving. And that part of co parenting is maintaining a PARENTING RELATIONSHIP independent of any personal issues and that this coparenting does require taking BF's attention/time/money away from SM frequently (as it would with their own child)and that this is not automatically a slight against or power play against SM. I also believe that kids whose parents are together or not, have times in their lives when they need their parents together for them alone - not including step parents, other siblings or step siblings. And that most SMs should show more grace in acknowledging this and encouraging this where it is at all possible for the love of the particular children in their lives. Ex partners can and should have a joint relationship in relation to their children that does not involve step parents or step parents' emotions. And it is difficult of course to swallow all those fears and insecurities and egos but the fragility of a child's heart is most certainly more important than the "rules" or power play of anyone's house.

Colorado Girl's picture

It's so ironic to me to hear your point of view...I would bend over backwards to cooperate with you if you were to approach me with that grace you speak of. There is no limit as what I would do.

Some of us are here because we are lost too...sometimes when looking thru the window to the other side, you can catch a glimpse of your own reflection.

"For every ailment under the sun....There is a remedy, or there is none;
If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." ~ W.W. Bartley

sarahbernheart's picture

here here, I like my sons' stepmom she is a good person BETTER than their dad.
she and I get along very well.
so it is possible to be civil with the BM and the step mom but ALL parties have to be on board in order for it to work.
I do not have a problem with FH having a open line of communication with BM as long as she keeps it to point and not drag out old marital issues.

"Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without one."

bellacita's picture

its not always the stepmoms though, who arent willing to put their own egos aside in the best interests of the children...as most of us see, often its the BMs. and thats all i'll say about that.

"Given the right reasons and the right two people, marriage is a wonderful way of experiencing your life."
~the late great George Carlin

TheBrightSide's picture

xyz...i respectfully read your post....however...

I challenge you to name me a time when a child needs to be solely with his parents...is that when he needs to be bailed out of jail..or is getting DNA testing...tell me when? Because, as I see it, if a BF has remarried, that woman, his wife, is a part of his whole life, and by extension his child's life...so you name me a time when the Step should be excluded.

Your theory of the BM relationship with BF being solely regarding parenting is bull. I challenge anyone here to name a BM who doesn't, in some way, interfere with their ex's new lives. Its never just about the kids. Its always about BM's need to still feel wanted, loved, secure...because at one time she got that from BF.

TheBrightSide's picture

oh...one more thing

you wrote: "stepmother" (a word I think should be banned as it completely misconstrues the role).

What do you mean by that? Do you mean to say that the word Stepmother is misconstrued because it implies "mother"?

Please explain.

stuckinthemiddle's picture

I am not sure how I feel about the last posts. I can understand some points but not others.
I think the BM in our situation would like us all to get along and share holidays/events together. The reality is that our BM is a controlling, dominant person and according to FH she has always been this way. It is her way or no way. We would have to accomodate her demands in order to have holidays/events together. She lacks consideration and cooperation skills so I do not think this will ever work.
Coparenting? The definition of coparenting should include working together. The BM in our situation makes decision and when FH doesn't just go along with what she decides than it is because he is choosing my side. That is not the case, he has a right to disagree with what she does.
BM and FH having a relationship together? Yes, as in both being parents to the children they share. It does not involve her questioning him about our relationship together or sharing details about her personal relationship/life as though they are good friends. At first, FH was friends with his ex and I respected that. But, after she started lying about details regarding the kids, being inconsiderate with parenting time and making poor decisions that affect the kids safety, he could no longer be friends with her. He communicates with her because he shares children with her. I think some BMs miss the intimate friendship that they had when they were married, but that is the unfortunate thing that results from a divorce.
BM and FH attend things together and I encourage that. I want him to have a good relationship with her. It would make our lives so much easier if we could all be adults and do what is best for the kids. But, she wants him to be her BFF. Not only that but the kids are HER kids so we have no right to tell HER how to do things. But, she has every right to judge us and tell us how to do things with the kids. FH offers to meet her to discuss parenting issues (just them alone), parent/teacher conferences, counseling appts. with SS9. And she refuses, she is so consumed with hatred towards me and him. She doesn't even want him to step foot on her porch or pull into her driveway because the sight of him "make her sick". This is her doing, not ours.
So it would be nice to be able to share the holidays like one big happy family but the reality is that the children live in two separate homes and have two different lives. At one point, they were one big happy family but now they have two families that both love them. It's not their fault and I cannot imagine what they go through and I worry how this will affect them later on in life.
We do the best we can with the kids given the situation. We don't play into her games or bad mouth her. We take the high road and hope that the kids will appreciate all that we do to try to maintain some peace with the BM.

bewitched's picture

"To Thine Own Self Be True" William Shakesphere

don't surprise me. Not at all. Of course, even had I read it before we married, it would probably have been a case of-well, that's not gonna happen to me. Geez.

To be honest, tho, I don't think BM plays a part in my conflict with SD17. Yes, sometimes she calls H, or he calls her-and I'm clueless about it. He keeps it all so secret from me-like their decision to have SD13 live with me-without even discussing it with me. We had a hell of row over that one. But, most of the time I'm so tense and stressed over the H's relationship with SD17 that I pay very little, if any attention to his relationship with his ex.

I believe my problems with SD17 stem directly from her father treating her as tho she is above everyone else-in everything. I place the blame for her spoiled, entitled attitude squarely where it belongs-on him.

Right now, H is off treating his precious SD17 to the amusement park. took her to lunch at Red Lobster. Tomorrow, he'll be taking her to the mall. So, I called SD13 just to wish her a Happy Halloween, tell her I love her. I feel so bad about it all-SD13 watching her father shower her older sister with everything, while she watches from the sidelines. And is a verbal punching bag to SD17. Sad, Sad, Sad. And so very wrong.

StepMadre's picture

I don't think this is accurate at all (the stats in the original post) and I wonder where they are getting their information? I certainly have never been asked about my step-mothering experience or been involved in any studies and I don't know anyone who has.

My take on this is that step-mothers are way more common than step-fathers and it's true that society has horrible expectations from SMs and SDs are easier off. If there were equal numbers of SMs and SDs than the stats would be more accurate.

I also think that BMs are a HUGE part of the problem. My step-mothering experience would have been (and would be) far better and easier if BM hadn't been in the picture or if she had not been a complete psycho. Not only has she been obsessed with me and used her kids to try to get to me, but she is also a horrible mother on her own. I was reading an article this past week about Zoo animals or animals in captivity and how they tend to be awful mothers (even killing or crushing their young) because they never learned how to parent from their own parents. Most zoo babies have to be bottle fed and bond with their keepers rather than their mothers and the cycle continues... My BM fits this to a tee even though she is, technically, human. She had a horrible, abusive and neglectful mother and her dad was not in the picture. Her mom was (and is) crazy and alternated from cloying affection to drunken, screaming rants. She left her kids alone for days at a time and I don't know how Social Services weren't called. She had no one to teach her how to be a good person or even how to take care of herself. If BM hadn't turned out to be a psycho witch, I would feel really sorry for her, but she has actually made the grown-up choice to be a sociopathic liar, a stalker, a slut and a massively horrible mother after being exposed to free counseling, parenting classes, psychology classes, and tons of other resources. She knows that what she does is wrong and has bouts of guilt where she tries to kiss up to H and I in some pathetic attempt to get forgiveness without having to ask for it. Anyway, she didn't have a mother who mothered her properly (to say the least) and so I think that, like the zoo animals, she literally doesn't know how to. This is unique to my experience and there is a huge variety of BMs, but Borderline Personality Disorder seems to be rampant as well as BMs who are bitter, angry, jealous and hateful because they were rejected or forced into single motherhood against their will. Even BMs who left our H's seem to have major issues. I really think that if we had BMs who were happy in their own lives and moved on from the past, it would make step-mothering a whole different game. Mine and many others BMs are awful mothers to the kids that they profess to love and this also causes a huge problem. My H and I work very hard to create a happy, healthy and stable home for the kids and raise them with love, structure, fun and discipline, but we are constantly fighting against a BM who feeds them nothing but junk food and sugar, doesn't make them do homework, doesn't have a routine or structure, lets them play endless video games and who exposes them to shady people (including creepy boyfriends). She messes with their heads, tries to poison them against their own father (and me) and scares and upsets them with her chaotic life and lack of stability. Obviously, this makes parenting a lot harder and as a SM, I don't even have the intense bond of love that Bio parents have. My H loves them intensely because he was there at the births and bonded with them, but I didn't and so I have had to grow to care for them, but won't ever feel that intense love in the same way. Parenting without a crazy BM, or at least with a BM that was normal, polite and a good mother would be much easier. It seems like 95% of the complaints on this site are related, either directly or indirectly to the behavior of the BM.

That being said, I disagree with the statistics and think it sounds like they were made up by an unhappy and vengeful BM. I have looked and have not been able to find any reliable and trustworthy statistical information that backs up this info. I think it's a case of wild generalization and doesn't reflect the real situations of most SMs/SDs. I struggle with my step-parenting situation, but it is for specific reasons (not listed in the info) and I do know two step-moms (the only SMs I know in real life) that love their skids intensely and have cordial and decent relationships with the normal and sane BMs in their lives. Their BMs are both pretty nice women and have completely moved on from their H's. Both are happily remarried and are on pleasant and friendly terms with my SM friends (they even swap knitting patterns and recipes). Needless to say, I do not relate to their situation at all, nor them to mine! They feel really sorry for me that I have such a crazy BM to deal with and they see how it affects my skids. I think everything depends on the details of the situation and the normality and sanity of the BM.

That's my little two cents worth.

"The truth shall set you free." ~John 8:32

Thetis's picture

How long does a SF usually stick around? I think my BM is going to be booted out within 3 months of bringing SD to live with her boyfriend.