My stepmom isn't coming to my baby shower...but I want her to. What to do?
Some brief background: My dad had an affair with (now) SM when I was in high school. Parents split. Mom would still take my dad back in a heartbeat...is still hurt and has never really moved on. Dad and SM are now married and incredibly happy. She is a part of my life now. It's been 12 YEARS since the divorce. 3 years ago, my sister got married and there were some bad words exchanged between my mom and SM's best friend. It caused a lot of tears that night for both my mom and my SM.
Now: My baby shower is next weekend. SM told my sister that she will not be attending, because she feels that my mom would not want her there, that my mom deserves to have that day with me, and that she wants doesn't want to make the situation complicated. My mom actually told me that SM isn't coming before I heard it from my sister, and I asked my mom how she felt about that. I was hoping my mom would be more mature about the situation and say that SM should come because she's a part of my life now and that so many years have gone by..etc. NOPE.
Mom's actual response was that it made her feel good to know that SM "knows her place". She also told me that at my sister's bridal shower, one of my mom's friends confronted SM in the bathroom and told her something like "How DARE you show up here?" I never knew that happened. My mom has one valid point: it would be different if my dad had not left her for my SM. Yes, I know that. But the fact is that SM is a loving part of my life, she treats us like her own and loves us and we love her and my dad together. My sister and I have no hard feelings for my SM. My mom can't see that SM is part of my life now in a meaningful way. I feel that SM should never feel this way to come to something that is in support of ME. She should be "allowed" to come and not feel alienated. My dad's family (my grandma, aunts and cousins) will be there too and my SM is also a part of THAT family now, and they actually go on vacation with one of my aunts every year.
I am thinking about telling my SM that I feel bad that she's not going. But then I risk that she will change her mind and my mom will flip. Ugh. Just leave it?
(However, I'd HATE to have her change her mind and come to the shower, and one of my mom's dumb friends confronts her again and makes her feel bad.)
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I understand your moms point
I understand your moms point of view but really,12 years,it's time to let it go and put the big girl panties on.you sound more mature about the situation than your mom does that's for sure.it's so nice you have a good relationship with your sm.maybe before the shower the two of you can have a day together like a mini-shower?
i hate to say this but shame on your mom for making things so much harder than they have to be.i could understand this behavior if the wounds were still fresh but 12 years is a long time.even if she's still hurt,she needs to learn the value of being a bigger person so she can show everyone what a classy woman she can be.
SteppingUp - just put
SteppingUp - just put yourself in your SM's shoes - oh wait you are - now I am not trying to be mean here but we all here complain post after post about how we are treated as second class citizens and how no one acknowledges us but then when we have a chance to step up to the plate we don't.
Cheating is horrible and yes it hurts the hell out of the person it happened to - but obviously your SM is making your father happy and I have a feeling that before this woman came along your parent's marriage was not that great.
Now if it was me - I would tell my mother that SM is coming - that her remark about SM knowing her place was an insult to you and ask her if she thinks you should also know your place. I would also tell my mother that if any of her friends go up to your SM during the Baby shower and utter even one word that you will go postal and you can get away with that because you are pregnant and the hormones are flowing.
When you look back on the pictures from this day with your child and you know that SM will still be a big part of your life what are you going to tell your child - that their Grandma did not come to the party because as other Grandma says "good thing she knows her place" What example will that be to your child. This vicious and nasty cycle has to stop and you should be the one to stop it - it has been 12 years - your father is not going to leave your SM and your mother needs to quite frankly get the hell over herself. Time to grow up she is about to become a Grandma - how can you blend your families if you are not willing to let your SM come. You really like her and there is nothing wrong with that - nothing at all - invite her promise her that nothing will be said to her - you guarantee it and tell mommy that if she can't behave then she can leave. This is about you not your mother - your mother needs to start realizing that the world does not revolve around her and that the Baby shower is for the actual person having the baby.
Sorry I am not trying to be harsh I just don't know when the cycle stops when the BS stops - you can stop it though if you want - just be strong and if not for you then for your child - because I guarantee if you let this go and slight your SM - your mother will make sure that your child never sees her as more than your SM and as you know more than anyone of your family or friends how important a SM can be - hope this helps and am praying for you!
You may be harsh but it's the
You may be harsh but it's the truth. I've been INCREDIBLY harsh with my mom in the past in efforts to get her to realize it's time to move on. If my sister and I, the children in this picture, find no problems with SM and the situation, then why does she have to put us in the middle of it when she's obviously the ONLY one with an issue?
And you are right in saying that I should ask my mom if I should "know my place" with BM as well...I am very much considering using that against her. I know that sounds bad but as I have said, I've been harsh with her in the past and sometimes I let things go because I don't want to upset her but there are times when I know I need to put my own MOM "in her place".
My response to my mom after she told me about her friend confronting SM in the past was that it made me feel really bad for SM. I asked her who did it and she said she didn't know but that she guessed it was either friend A or friend B. My response was that I would choose to not invite Friend A and B then if they couldn't be civil to someone that *I* care about. She was kind of quiet after that and started to get teary-sounding. My mom thinks my sister and I are being insensitive to her when she starts in with the "well your dad and I were together for 21 years...if it weren't for HER then we might still be together...(which is totally not true, my dad was not happy for years and tried to make it work)...I'd feel different if she wasn't the OTHER woman in our relationship...I just wnat to be friends with your dad again.." blah blah blah.
*Sigh* I will be spending Thanksgiving day with my dad and SM. I'm going to use the opportunity to tell her that I never knew about the previous drama that happened and that it really upsets me that anyone on my mom's side would say that to her...especially one of my mom's friends who didn't even know my dad to begin with. I also will tell her that I'd WANT her to come, but would never guilt her into coming and being in an awkward situation herself.
That is perfect - this way
That is perfect - this way you will be letting her know that she is welcome that she does not need to be afraid of your mother's friends and it also shows that you think her as a SM is so very important - I always try to do unto others as I would want done to me.
PS - tell your mother that you are sorry that she had to go through what she did but now that 12 years has passed it is time to move on and it is time for her friends to get out of high school and join the real world!
Stepping - sometimes parents
Stepping - sometimes parents as well as adult children can learn from each other - and yes your mother needs to let this go - you are not being disrespectful at ALL - your mother is being disrespectful by not allowing you to enjoy this time in your life - you enjoy your SM and she should be a part of it even it your mother does not want her to be - if you let this happen then what happens when there is the Christening, birthdays, graduation all the events that you will want your child's grandparents at. Either Mom grows up or she runs the risk of losing out on a lot of important dates.
Maybe if more BM's had to deal with the Stepmothers and not just be allowed to go on their merry way - wrecking functions and making life hell for the SM then the family could blend more - by not making your mother deal with this she is stuck in the past and will never let go.
I have the exact same
I have the exact same scenario. Dad has been remarried 15 years. Mom has never even dated. My SM is a nice lady. She doesn't go to any of the family functions. My mom would flip out. Now my Dad also doesn't go because he resents my mom for how she PAS'd my sisters.
My opinion here is leave well enough alone. Your SM understands the dynamics of the situation, you should to.
It does suck though that everyone can't be grown ups.
I have the same situation in my future. My Son's Eagle ceremony. Everyone will be invited and I swear my mom and my sisters, better learn to deal with my SM coming. I will not put up with the animosity. He is everyone's grandchild...
I don't agree with the leave
I don't agree with the leave well enough alone because if it had been nipped years ago then you would not be worrying about your Son's Eagle Ceremony - which by the way congrats that is a great honor and shows real dedication on his part. Just warn every one that you will go postal if even one person screws up his day - it is about their grandchild and nephew - and wow 15 years - you get it from all sides don't you - I am praying that all goes well and if it doesn't then kick out the offending party - it is now your turn to step up for your SM!! I promise it will make a difference in your son's eyes!!
PS - are things going well in the house now for your son?
Years of therapy has made me
Years of therapy has made me have a relationship with my Dad. My sisters have no relationship with him. I have been up front since the last drama 5 years ago with them, that I will not take sides. They have not been in the same room since my husband died 8 years ago. Now, I will invite them and if something is said, I will address it then. Now, my SM may not come. She never does unless it is a really big event. Only other time was my son and my husband's funeral. Now, my Dad worked with my son on his Eagle project and will be getting the mentor pin for the ceremony so she will of course be included in the invitation. I wouldn't think to do otherwise.
15 year and he has been happily married and my sisters and my mother can not move on. I still believe kids need their father and have made great effort to have a relationship with him. Can't mention him to my mom or my sisters. It is insane. But, I will not force SM to be in the situation that makes her uncomfortable. She is too nice a lady to do that. She will be invited, but not forced.
I think OP should respect her feelings and do something with her at another time. Her mom should grow up. She won't so don't put SM in the middle. I keep waiting for mine too.
The bus situation for my son is still on going. The drama with my DH and the emails between BM goes on and on. I am staying out of it. They have been separated on the bus. But, SD is still doing what she wants. So I sent an email to the VP to handle after the break.
i was just thinking about
i was just thinking about this,when is this thing of treating sm like she's an evil troll hiding under the stairs going to end??
so because mom can't grow the heck up and move on, that means sm won't be able to attend the birth of the baby either?she won't be able to attend anything for the baby if mom is going to be there?!that is SO WRONG!!
I vote for rocking the boat and putting mom in HER place.part of being a mother is putting your personal issues aside to let your children shine in their big life moments with ALL the people who love them present to see them celebrate.
I totally agree - I do not
I totally agree - I do not agree to leave it alone - sorry that sounds like a bm talking and not the sm side talking - as mothers we have to put aside our petty grievances and after 12 years it is petty that OP's mother can't get past this - this is about a grandchild and the mother - everyone needs to celebrate that and not pick sides or make OP feel like she is wrong for loving her SM - it is nice to see that a woman loves her stepmother and I am sure that it has helped her to be a good SM - good luck!!
This totally got me thinking
This totally got me thinking about the birth of my child, too. I would want my dad to come and visit and to not feel like he needs to leave SM at home "in case" my mom might be there!! That's ridiculous. I'm going to bring this up with my mom too -- what happens when it's my kid's future?
Also, another little interesting tidbit: DF's family is blended and he said to me, "I don't get it. My SM goes to everything and no one's ever said anything to her or about her, and no one ever thought it was weird." I'm going to also use this to explain to my mom that she needs to MOVE ON!
Another good point for her to
Another good point for her to remember is one day her(your mom) grandbaby will wonder why your mom treats sm so poorly and it may cause grandbaby to look down on grandma(your mom) because like it or not,grandkids often pick a favorite set of grandparents and just because sm isn't your real mom won't guarantee your baby won't like her and your dad as grandparents better especially if your mom continues acting like a bitter old hag(i'm sorry to say that about your momma but from my point of view she is acting like that).
i was thinking that same
i was thinking that same thing Dabevans but then I thought she isn't trying to change mom's feelings or get her to stop feeling a certain way,i think she just wants mom to play nice with sm for her sake.
definitely i agree.i think
definitely i agree.i think the move on thing is what mom should be doing for her own mental health and inner peace but no one can make her do it of course if she's still not ready.but regardless of how she feels,she needs to do what's best for her daughter at this point and play nice.she needs to realize she isn't playing nice to benefit sm,she's playing nice to benefit her daughter.
Totally agree with you and
Totally agree with you and almost wrote something similar earlier but couldn't figure out the right words. Basically, my sister and I know that my mom might not EVER move on. But we'd like her to move FORWARD...for the sake of everyone. I know some might not see the difference but I know what I mean, atleast!
I agree with the others who
I agree with the others who said that you should have your SM with you if she is a part of your life.
Cheating hurts.
My mother went through the same thing as yours, and they were married for 27 years! My SM makes my father happy and frankly, I do NOT like my SM but that is for other reasons having to do with HER and I, not my parents.
My mother is strong enough and mature enough to let go. She knows my father is happier with my SM which is proof of how much my mother really loved him. She also knows that she and my father lasted as long as they did only because they were both stubborn.
Bottom line: do what makes YOU happy and relate that to SM and your mother. If they truly love you, they SHOULD understand.
Dear Mom, I love you so much
Dear Mom,
I love you so much and am so happy you are coming to my baby shower. I know you are very hurt for how your marriage ended and still have trouble accepting SM. Over the past twelve years I have gotten to know SM and I am able to move past the divorce and realize how happy she makes dad and that makes me happy. I’m sorry if this makes you sad. I am really excited for my baby shower and would like to have all the people who are in my life and are going to be in my child’s life present. I know you would prefer that SM is not there but she is involved in my life now and I would like her there. With this new baby there are going to be many events that I would like you and dad both at (baptism, birthday parties, school functions) and I would never expect SM not to come with dad to these events. I do not want to have to pick between you and dad and I don’t think I should have to. Please do not put me in the middle. I have personally asked SM to come to my baby shower. It is a very special day for me and I want you both there. Everyone knows you are my mom and I am really looking forward to sharing the day with you. I am writing to ask that you please understand that I am not picking her over you as it is not a choice who is my mom. I am also asking you (and any of your friends) to please be polite and civil to SM because any outbursts or drama will only ruin the shower for me. I would never ask you to be friends with SM but going forward I do not want my baby to have to miss time with Grandma or Grandpa because you are upset if SM is there. You are a wonderful person and I know you can do this and it would mean so much to me.
Love,
SteppingUp
My father left my mother for
My father left my mother for her friend from work. They were the kind of co-workers who'd barbecue together on the weekends, one big happy family - until my dad moved out, and next thing we know he's living with mom's friend "Barb." That lasted about 5 years and they were engaged but never married. They split, and my dad bought a house near all us 4 kids. We were happy he was nearby, helping him decorate for his first Christmas in his new place. Then suddenly he announced he was getting married, and we'd never guess who he was marrying. It wasn't "Barb" - it was "Carol" - another friend of the family, from earlier on. Carol and her husband and family went to church with my family each week, and we often had Sunday dinner together. The two families were quite close until Carol and her family moved away and dropped out of sight. We had visited them once, and stayed with them in their house, and then they just kind of mysteriously disappeared. Until my father's announcement.
You can imagine my mother's reaction. Her ex finally breaks with her coworker, then marries another of her past close friends, who surfaces from nowhere.
It's been almost 30 years since my parents split up. They had been married 17 years. My dad and stepmother have been married 20 years. My mother has been with her boyfriend (they don't want to marry) for over 25 years.
They still hate each other's guts.
But they BEHAVE at milestone events. Because that's what adults do.
Stand up for your SM. Be as kind as you can with your mother, but what she's doing is selfish and wrong.
My mom isn't the "bigger person" in my own family history. Both my parents take the occasional jab at one another and look down on each other. But they behave for the sake of their kids and grandkids. We're sensitive to it and don't force them together.
Your mom needs to learn how to let go and focus on the future.
L
You've got to freakin' be
You've got to freakin' be kidding me. The mom is acting like a 5 year old! It's been 12 years for pete's sake so grow the hell up! Look at it this way... if the dad cared so little about the mom in the first place that he would cheat on her, isn't this woman 100 times better off without him in her life??? At least now she can move forward and be HAPPY if she would get over her freakin' pity party for herself!
I find it funny that you spend all of this time bashing the crap out of stepmom's (most of us ARE bio moms as well) on all these other posts I have seen...
Now here is an obviously GOOD person in general... she is TOTALLY and COMPLETELY HONORING her mother by even being here on this board to ask this question in the first place and because she is not wanting to HURT ANYONE... but she LIKES her stepmom so YOU are going to bash the shit out of her??? Whoever the hell you are, you are freakin' TWISTED as SHIT!!
This poor girl OBVIOUSLY loves her mom and respects her enough to want her to move forward and be HAPPY. This girl is HONORING her mother WONDERFULLY just because she CARES and she is showing what kind of a person her mother obviously raised her to be because she can show compassion and kindness to ALL people involved in this situation... something YOU obviously MISSED the classes on in Sunday School! Take your hypocritical BS and move it to another board where people actually give a SHIT about what you have to say!!
From this point forward I know that I personally will be ignoring you (and I will flag your sick and twisted BS every chance I get!) and I think that everyone else on this board would be wise to do the same. It is very obvious to me that you are just a very bitter person with no compassion for anyone, but particularly for ANY step-relationship which is exactly what this board is about! I think you would be wise to find some kind of professional help where they can help you figure out what causes you to despise the step-relationship and hopefully they can help you work through that issue!
I completely agree!! How
I completely agree!! How about if the mom honors the fact that her daughter is going to be a mother - that it is not about her but about her daughter and grandchild. Would the OP's mother want someone to treat her like she is treating her daughter I don't think so - I think the mother may have tried to get all of the children to pick sides and I am glad to see that she did not succeed!!
My sister and two of my
My sister and two of my friends are hosting the event....I do see where you were going.
And like I said above, I'll be spending Thanksgiving with my dad and SM so at least we have that, and that's totally fine.
I just attended a baby shower
I just attended a baby shower and it was a beautiful, loving event. There was no drama even though I personally have not so great feelings towards several who attended.
I think your mom is just wanting to control every future situation and play the victim (sorry if harsh), and it would be a loving move on your part to say, Mom, come on. I am inviting SM and if you or any of your friends are rude to her, you will be asked to leave and excused from any future events.
I think kissing your mom's *ss on this will only allow it to continue. It is strange we had the same message for BM, when she was still bitching 12 years after their divorce.!!
We had the same situation at
We had the same situation at our wedding.
Dh parents were divorced for 25 years , dh mother didn't want his stepmom to come. Dh father had an affair and then left his wife. When we got married, dh mother was remarried for 20+ years and had 3 more adult children. Yet she couldn't let it go. Dh really wanted his Sm to be at our wedding, but she also said it won't be a problem she would stay at home. Dh tried to talk to his mother, tried to explain to her,that it wasn't about her or his stepmother, but his mother didn't care. I think it was the most selfish thing she ever did. She made a really big deal about it, called everybody and we got phone call's from people about it for a long time, in the end we said ,we are not going to have a wedding, we are just going to get married at the courthouse, at this point we really didn't care anymore, we just wanted to get married, we didn't invite anybody since his family made a big deal about it and they didn't want to come (in solidarity for his mother) ,I decided it wouldn't be fair to only have my family there, so we really just had our 2 friends there to sign the documents. Now his mother feels really stupid about it and she apologised for it, but I will never forget it.
Now we are planning a big reception, but I want to wait a little longer and save up more money to really do it big lol.
But I can tell you it was so stress full, I am happy we didn't had a big wedding, it would have been tainted, you know.
Try to talk to your mother again, tell her that this day is not about her , it is about you, and that you really want your sm to be there and it isn't right for her to make you choose between her and your sm.
First off, your mom is making
First off, your mom is making something that should be all about you all about her. Your SM isn't.
Secondly, I'm sure your mom is a nice person, but do you have any idea why your dad left her? Put the other woman aside for a second, and ask her why your dad, who was, to use an analogy, well fed at home, was eating at the buffet. Your dad was wrong for having an affair. I can guarantee your mom was not blameless in the failure of their marriage, though, and it's pretty convenient to have somebody else to blame, but at some point your mom is going to need to accept her own responsibility.
At the risk of completely
At the risk of completely disagreeing, Is it wrong for a wife and mom to hold a grudge against the woman who had an affair with her husband who eventually married her?
I haven't read the back story here- nor do I know how many "other women" or "cheated on women" are on here- but to me it isn't unreasonable that a person who gave herself to another person would be forever devastated that her "partner" cheated and then moved in with and married some other woman. I would, as a daughter, be horrified and I don't think I'd ever get over it. Had my father made this choice (barring extenuating circumstances) I'd really forever bar his new partner from any event my mother was invited to- no matter what.
I am a stepmother and I took this role on with a man who split from his wife before I was a blip on the screen. If I had anything to do with their separation and/or divorce, I would NOT be inserting myself into my stepkids lives no matter how much they love/d me. I wouldn't have made that choice. As a cheating person (and I include your father here) they would not be allowed at my baby shower.
I don't think it's wrong to
I don't think it's wrong to hold a grudge at all.Heck if my dh cheated on me I would probably keep a picture of the other woman for target practice or something therapeutic like that for the first year or two!lol but if i had to put aside my anger to be the bigger woman,i would do it.
My mother was cheated on by my father and he married the woman.My mother NEVER got over it and it has been nearly 20 years!However,she showed herself to be a strong and caring person when she put her deep heartache and pain aside to allow me to have my WHOLE family at my wedding to DH.She stayed away from sm and all was right in the world for my special day.
Forgiving the father for cheating is not easy but as someone else pointed out,it's time for mom to recognize her role in the end of her marriage as well instead of just blindly pointing the finger at the cheating dog ex husband.As a woman who has been cheated on by men other than my husband,I can tell you it takes TWO people to mess up a relationship.The majority of men don't cheat just to cheat(there are exceptions to this of course).Most men just want to be happy at home and have their needs met.I drove men to cheat because I was so impossible to be with at the time.they didn't want to leave me but they needed more than i was giving them.It happens.You forgive and move on or you choose to hang onto the bitterness and hate.
I prefer to forgive and move on.Maybe Stepping has chosen to forgive and move on from what her father did and that is an incredibly noble and brave task.Her mother may want to take lessons from her on the value of moving on.
Thanks for saying this Asher.
Thanks for saying this Asher. I mean really guys, sometimes people cheat because their nature is that way-but the majority of cases it's because it's a SYMPTOM of something very wrong in the relationship, and NOT the problem itself.
It's just so very convenient to blame the other person and hold onto self-pity and bitterness and hate and blame and appear the victim and turn a blind eye to our mistakes.
I don't EVER condone what her SM did and others on this very board have done...not at all-that comes with it's OWN set of consequences they have to eat daily. And it IS suprising that a relationship born from an affair would last-I guess you have exceptions. BUT it will have a lot of fallback of course. That's the consequences the dad/other woman have to live with daily.
Look-I was beaten, cheated on (the least of my worries) and abused in many ways...you don't STAY stuck on victim and pity parties. You move PAST it-you don't justify bitterness and self-pity for 12 years...shoot anything past 5 years IMO...it really becomes an issue that obviously that person struggles with...which is pretty indicative to WHY the marriage failed in the first place. PEople that hold onto bitter and hate and self-pity hurt themselves and their kids.
Her mom is using her victim status because she gains something twisted from it...justification for her actions probably. No self-responsibility...same as no self-responsibility for her part in the marriage failure? See the dots connect.
It's a tough situation and mom can feel what she wants-of course, part of it is understandable -what isn't is acting out on that and putting her daughter in this situation to begin with. But people stuck on victim status do tend to be the selfish type to begin with.
Sue...you know the Bible also says in Colossians 3:21
Fathers, do not exasperate your children, so that they will not lose heart-
I think it's clear "Fathers" is parents. Her mom is provoking and exasperating her daughter with this right now also.
Is it not dishonoring to set boundaries w/our parents and ask them to respect us and not act up at an event that is NOT about her mom or her dads affair 12yrs ago. She doesn't have to get over it if she doesn't want to but she should change her behavior for her daughters and grandchildrens sake...for the sake of peace right?
I might feel different if this was a recent thing probably though.
It is YOUR day, not your
It is YOUR day, not your mother's.
You need to ask her to be a big girl FOR YOUR SAKE for the day. If she can't, then tell her she is not welcome.
Thanks Finey!
Thanks Finey!