You are here

Follow Up, Backstory, and One more thing: My Stepmom isn't coming to my baby shower....

SteppingUp's picture

Wow, what a hot topic this turned out to be. I just decided to start a new post in response to the 54 comments. If you need to be reminded of anything:
My Stepmom isn't coming to my baby shower...and I want her to. What to do?

Before I add on, I’d like to say that besides a few minor incidents of disagreement this is honestly the BEST advice I’ve ever received on this forum.

I heard both sides. You all explained yourselves so well in what you were trying to get across. I truly, truly, truly appreciate ALL of the advice – especially because I am completely in the middle of the situation and honestly do see both sides. However, because some of you don't know the WHOLE story some things got misconstrued.

The one piece that I do not agree with was that I was being disrespectful to my mother. If I were truly not respecting my mother’s feelings at all I never would have posted the blog to begin with. But there are years of history here and I in fact am VERY close to my mom. We talk every day. I share everything with her and she talks to me about her feelings about my dad and SM and anything else that comes up. If there is ONE person who she can hear the good AND the bad from, it is ME. And she has said so herself. She has thanked me in the past for being “incredibly harsh” with her.

I’d like to also clarify that in being incredibly harsh with her, part of that was telling her how much faith that both me and my sister have that she CAN AND WILL find someone that will make her happy, but that she needs to get out and do things to meet people. She loves to sing – join the church chorus, then! She loves to read – join a book club then! She loves animals – volunteer!! I've also flat out asked her why she would WANT to be with my dad still...that they never did anything together, that he likes to drink and be social and she doesn't, that he cheated on her (more than once)...why would she sign up for more years of hurt? *Sigh* I told her that the two people who know her relationship with my dad from a first-hand experience is me and my sister. And if WE are so open to the changes and can see that they weren’t “perfect” for each other, there has got to be something bigger and better out there for her.

I want to add a little more background about my mom. My mom has been in counseling for years. She has never been diagnosed with anything further than depression, however she’s a mixed bag of other issues. She lives in delusion. She is deluded about how people perceive her (she won’t even go up for communion at church for fear that people are looking at her and criticizing her), she often says things that are inappropriate or make people uncomfortable (playfully teasing my cousin about not having kids when she knows that my cousin has been trying for years). She is complicated in a way that is unexplainable – because she would never intentionally hurt ANYONE. She always means the best. And in a public place, she would absolutely NEVER say anything to my SM. She would NEVER cause a scene. And neither would my SM. They are both honestly very docile and overly polite.

My mom grew up in an alcoholic family and it affected her deeply. However, she references this history in her life all the time and I’ve come to learn that she plays the victim with it. (Please don’t attack me for saying that, I would never even say that out loud to her, I am only voicing it here because it is something I recognize as unhealthy and that I’ve always just lived with). She continues to use this affair as her method of playing the victim and her excuse to not move on with her life and do things that she enjoys. She says things like, "If your dad never left me, I'd still be working at the OB and enjoy my job and have more money..." (She has had a hard time with jobs over the past 8 years and has moved towns 5 times and changes apartments at least once a year).

Beyond all of that complexity, my mother is an extremely simple woman. If she could find a guy who loved her “enough”, had a truck and a mustache, and who doesn’t drink, she’d find her ideal mate. I’m not kidding, these are her delusions of what her “perfect” man would be. Mind you, the only thing on that list that my dad has is the truck.

Although my parents were married for 21 years, I look back and can’t remember a single moment or memory of love between them. It wasn't a "bad" relationship. It just merely existed. My dad likes to have a drink at night, likes to go out and be social. I found out since my adulthood that my dad cheated on my mom a few times, and every time they went to counseling afterwards. Each time they went to counseling it was determined that my mom needed more individual counseling to deal with her issues of coming from an alcoholic family. My dad quit drinking for 11 years for my mom, although both my sister and I are not sure he was an "alcoholic" -- we now realize that my mom thinks that if you have more than one drink in a sitting you are an alcoholic. Shortly after he started to drink again is when he met my SM. My parents separated for almost a year before it came out that he was with someone else.

So maybe I’m being selfish here, but this is what I want and feel is realistic to expect out of this whole situation:

1. That my mom can let go of the control this has over her. I know she will always look at SM as the “other woman” or the “homewrecker” and they will never be friends. But with a grandchild coming into the picture, things need to lighten up for his sake. Also, I live 8+ hours away from all of them and it would be so nice not to have to separate EVERYTHING that we do when we can come to visit. In the future there may be times where we will need to all be in the same place (ahem, my son’s birth, AND my wedding next fall, my son’s birthdays/holidays/events) that I wish it wouldn’t have to be such a build-up of all of this emotion before the event.

2. That others in my mom's family/friends circle would move on and realize that SM is a part of MY life now and not the sole “cause” of the divorce anyway.

3. That my SM would not have to worry about being attacked by the friends/family of my mom.

4. That my mom and SM could attend a function with over 50 people there for 3 hours, in order to celebrate something that they now both share (my son).

My resolution: I'm just going to see how the weekend plays out. I wouldn't mind letting my mom know that it is hurtful to me that someone in her life would not realize that SM is part of my life (and my son's) now. If nothing else, I want my mom to see that in some families it is totally normal for the SM and BM to be in the same place. I would like to talk to her about opening up a new chapter in our family's life (my son is the first grandchild) and that I wish everyone would be able to move forward and do what's best.
I also plan to thank my SM for being so understanding and to let her know that I would never want anyone to say anything rude to her again.

Thank you all for the advice, second opinions, alternate ideas, and sharing your own stories. *Hugs to all of you!*

I will surely be writing a blog come Monday to let you all know how it went!

Comments

Asher10's picture

Smile hang in there stepping,I think you're a very mature woman and you're doing right by your mom by weighing all sides of the situation.

Goodstepmom's picture

I really hope nobody is going to respond to her post, she is clearly trying to start drama, please lady's, just IGNORE HER. She is trying to get attention. Wink

Asher10's picture

I don't think she's trying to start drama on this particular one.Her point is really valid and applies to many people here.it's easy to expect bm to do things but when the same is expected of us,the opinions change drastically.

Asher10's picture

I guess I just saw it as luv trying to draw a parallel and relate how BM is feeling to things SM's feel using the birthday thing as an example of where both women have the opportunity to choose to be around each other or not.
i didn't get that she had specific people in mind,just many people on the site who had the bday issue but expected BM to just get over everything.I could be wrong,this was just my personal perception of her post that's all.my perception of luv is she thinks outside the sm box a lot and enjoys a good debate unfortunately that causes trouble a lot but like i said,my perception of this particular post was just her trying to draw a real parallel and get opinions from the people with the double standard.

Goodstepmom's picture

If you really want an answer, then ask them privately.
If you don't want an answer, then don't say anything at all. Wink

Goodstepmom's picture

You STARTED to talk about other posters on her not me. You could have just talked to Steppingup, but you started to involve other posters and ask them a question. So you were not JUST responding to a blog.

Let me show you.

So, again...I ask... why are these SAME posters saying that Stepping's mom should just get over it? Move on? Forget this women destroyed her family?

SteppingUp's picture

As the OP of this blog I'd like to state that I was not in any way offended by Luv them all's post.

If anything I really hate when people continue to post about one thing they don't agree with rather than MOVING FORWARD with the topic at hand.

Just let it go, people.

Asher10's picture

I was thinking they don't say the SM should suck it up and be forced to deal with BM because she doesn't have same emotional and parental obligations that BM has to the skids(unless SM is the one raising the skids as her own).If the skids want their SM at their birthday party and voice that desire,BOTH women should technically put their differences aside for the day and be there for the kid.BUT the BM is typically the only one who is truly obligated to make sure she puts the emotional health of her kids above her own anger and hate.
SM's can CHOOSE to put their issues aside for their skids.They don't do it because they have to.If you're the woman who raised the child,you lose the luxury of that choice.If you love the child enough to raise it,you should love them enough to put a band-aid on your wounds for their day.This includes SM who raised their skids AND bm's who raise their kids(because some obviously don't).

Asher10's picture

I can't answer for the people who are saying just get over it yet don't agree with joint parties for the skids sake.I'm not one of those people.I tend to enjoy practicing what I suggest others practice which includes moving on from things that happened 12 years ago.even if you can't heal yourself completely,at least make an effort to heal a little bit if not for your sake,then for the sake of your kids.
Steppings mom doesn't have to forgive anyone if she feels she is unable.Being over something is NOT a requirement for being the bigger person for a day.I recommended that she move on for her own emotional health and well being.It has nothing to do with forgiving the other woman or the exhusband.She never has to forgive them but she needs to make peace with everything somehow or she's going to be miserable.

j-dog's picture

Well, yeah.
In my case....it's NOT MY KID. I shouldn't have to do ANYTHING I'm not comfortable with, for the sake of humoring SOMEONE ELSE'S KID.
Now, if skid WANTED me there, AND I felt like going, damn straight I would expect BM to STFU and cope with it. In that case, she (BM) would be doing something uncomfortable FOR HER OWN KID.
There's a huge difference. Why is it so difficult to see that?

donna123's picture

I also agree they are two different things. When BM attends these events she is given nothing but empathy and understanding. When SM attends these events it is another opportunity for those so inclined to pillory her. So your suggestion is that SM should be forced to attend so she can receive her dose of public humiliation because she is such a disgraceful woman she deserves contempt? Do you think those two experiences are comparable?

You can’t know that ALL your guests are going to be gracious. There are a few posting on the subject would love nothing more than to strip SM naked and brand her with a big A. Neither is it just a couple of hours. Intense hateful energy directed toward you reverberates through every aspect of your life for a long time.

Who wants to use the upcoming birth of a child to get back at SM for allegedly “destroying a woman’s home”? Who wants to use the upcoming birth of a child to force BM to feel all over again her anger and betrayal at a time when that should be the furthest thing from her mind? I would think no one would want that.

There are some families that can get past these life altering events, some cannot. You can’t force it. Mom can’t just “let it go”. I am sure if she could, she would. You are her daughter and this is her grandchild--a landmark event in the life of a mother. Maybe use a different event, like a summer barbecue or something to try to draw people together?

Having said that it seems you, your mom and your stepmom are pretty neat women. SM made the classy decision to decide not to come, out of respect for you, herself and your mom.

SteppingUp's picture

Luv them all... I see your point and that you are trying to compare birthday parties (a very hot topic on this site as well!) to this situation. There are definite parallels. I agree with Asher10 and there is something to be said for the age difference and whether the kid is requesting both BM and SM to be there. I know that my skids would love to have joint parties. We've never had one because BM refuses, but we haven't pushed it either yet. Some day it might happen...and if BM were okay with it, I'd be totally fine. We'd suck it up for a few hours.

JustAnotherSM's picture

You are a great woman for trying to bridge the gap in your family. I hope that your mom will listen to your wise words and her heart will soften over time.

My parents split up when I was 10. When the 1st grandbaby (my niece) came along, my siblings and I had a talk with my parents. It wasn't fair to the grandbaby (or the parents) to be shuffled around to various houses so all the grandparents can have their special holiday moments. Anyone who wanted to see the baby would have to attend joint family gatherings. The first Christmas was awkward to say the least and my parents didn't speak at all. But here we are 8 years and 4 more grandbabies later and our family gatherings are great. Mom and Dad are finally letting go of the past and are sharing stories about our childhood with the grandkids. Last year at Halloween I took a picture of everyone in their costumes - and found that mom and dad had stood next to each other and smiled without even noticing! I do admit, I think it was easier for my family since niether of my parents remarried. But I think you're doing the right thing by changing the status quo with the arrival of baby.

SteppingUp's picture

Thank you.

My fiance's family does the same. When everyone is older and moved away, and there are grandkids involved, it is so silly to split up so much time shuffling between houses because the oldest (and supposedly most mature) adults can't come together for a few hours. DF's mom will come over to his dad's house to see the kids for awhile, or vice versa. His dad even still hunts every fall with the BM's dad. There's no drama. BM and SM don't necessarily sit and talk or even really converse other than beign polite, but that's fine. I've always admired DF's family for this.

I don't think my mom will ever get to that point. But like I said, I'd love it if she could not put all of this worry and emotion on me and my sister and cause us to stress about the situation so far in advance. If we can get to the point where there is a party that they all attend that is more than an intimate gathering, that will be a huge step.

maldita's picture

Hi SteppingUp. My FIL is in the same situation as your dad (married to the woman he had an affair with). They have been married for 20 years. My SIL finally got tired of having 2 seperate parties for her kids because she felt her mom wouldn't go if her dad was there. Well last year she said screw it! I'm inviting them both. If they can't be adults and celebrate their grand children's birthdays together, then it's their loss. Long story short, it was a bit uncomfy but in the end they all lived.

You can't be planning and re-planning your life because they have emotional baggage. I say screw it and go on with your life. Have your party. If they can't be mature enough to handle it, then it's their loss. Life is too short to worry about their insecurities.

LizGrace65's picture

It's not a skid. It's a grandbaby. A whole generation has gone by. That's a big difference.

This is not BM hosting something SM is going to, or SM hosting something BM is going to. Neither of them is the host. This is an occasion put on by a third party where both are welcome. That is not the same thing as BM and SM jointly planning an event, or attending each other's events.

I wouldn't in a million years want to go to an event BM was hosting, or host one with her. However I will and have gone to an event hosted by a third party that BM is also attending.

Apples and oranges.

L

SillyGilly's picture

I completely agree with this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Same thing as how some people are crappy parents but then are model grandparents. It's completely different.

ownpersonalopinion1's picture

Both SM and BM should be able and capable of attending the party long enough to not cause any drama or grief for the daugther. Its clear this daugther is caught in the middle and is trying to accomodate both people. Both Sm and BM should be able to act like adults in public at a social setting for a least a little while. The BM or SM don't have to like each other, sit with each other or talk to each other, but hopefully they would be willing for the daughter.

SillyGilly's picture

Stepping Up, I think you should print out the expectations you posted and when the time is right, someday go through them with your mom. They are very realistic and maybe if she had something to read and look over she could give it some thought.

I was also thinking maybe one day if there is a special event for your baby and you tell your mom "Sorry, I guess you can't come over since dad and SM are going to be here" that could be a wake up call. NOT that you should exclude her but maybe the realization that until things can be civil you are going to have to pick and choose and everyone loses.

I hope you have a wonderful shower!!

raggedyann1973's picture

First of all, I would like to say how I LOVE that you love your SM and you have no anger towards your dad or SM. I think that is AWESOME!! Having said that I think your mom should not share her angry feelings towards SM with you bc that will only put you in the middle. I can also understand how your mom feels. This was her husband and he left her for another woman and actually married the woman. Maybe you can have 2 baby showers. One with mom's side of the family and one with dad and SM side of the family.

You said it has been 12 years and your mom still feels this way and that's too bad. Maybe she needs closure. Maybe your dad needs to let her vent and share her feelings. MAybe she never got to tell him how hurt she wasand still is.

Angel37's picture

I feel for you in this situation, and I think it's great that you're trying so hard to work through this.

The only thing I can say is this: Infidelity hurts. No, it doesn't just hurt, it DESTROYS. I know this from first hand experience, as my husband and I are working through this right now. For most, healing takes up to five years, but for some, it may never come. It sounds like your mom had some self esteem issues to begin with, and let me tell you, an affair will demolish the betrayed spouse's self worth, in most cases. It may have been 12 years, but it's not always possible to just get over it. Our therapist (a doctor specializing in infidelity issues) has explained to us that infidelity is considered the worst trauma that a couple can face, other than the loss of a child. It IS considered a trauma, and many people suffer PTSD from affairs. Just some info to consider.

I know that you would like both your mom and step mom to attend these life events...it is ideal, but sometimes it just won't work.

Here's another thought: Is it possible that your step mom knows how much devastation that she helped cause to your mom and maybe just doesn't want to hurt her further? Perhaps this is her way of being the bigger person?