"But occasionally I hear them playing video games upstairs with yells of victory. Yells from grown men."

Hmmmm, imagine that. There was a football game just last Sunday. Roomfuls of yells of victory. Yells from grown men.

Is your SS graduated HS and attending college? Working?

My brother did this at this age. He had sleepovers with his guys where they stayed up playing video games all night. I remember my mom thought it was odd too. She was even at the point where she thought maybe my brother was gay. (Not that there is anything wrong with that.) I'm not sure I can tell you if it's "normal" but I can say my brother is now a grown man, married, with a house of his own, and a 1 year old son. He still has his buddies over to drink and play video games. He doesn't have poker games or watch football, this is just his thing.

I agree you should be grateful that he isn't out getting into drugs or drinking. Let him be a nerd with his friends and enjoy it while it lasts.

Outgrown? No.

In fact, I think my (now) adult son had more "pajama parties" with his buddies at that age than he did when he was younger. I admit, at first I was like "huh?" but then I got it. Hours of shooting hoop in the driveway. Late night fast food runs and video game all-nighters. Totally the dude life.

Yeah, I got little sleep those nights, or had to get creative with how I was going to navigate my own evening at home around it all, but it's all in innocent fun for the guys. And 18 year olds are by no means "grown men".

I'm 43 and I go to my friends house and we play Skyrim with her 10 yo daughter until we can't see straight. It's fun.

Oh boy....I will answer it this way. It depends on the parents who is having the adult kids over.

I knew a BM who would go out and buy booze and say "well, what ya gonna do, its better to have them drink here at the house". What a darn idiotic thing to do but it does occur and more than we want to think.

OR if you have a up standing home, then I guess I it ok.

Again it totally depends on the parent, nut job or good parents.

Try not to let it bug you.

Regardless if it's "ok or acceptable" it's annoying, period. Let's just be honest, at this age you are hoping he'll be out of the house more with friends and allow you some more privacy in your home. My ss is almost 16.. I am irritated when he spends the entire weekend in the house. I'm like go outside!!! Go hang out with your friends in the park, go sit at mcdonalds.. I don't care where you go but don't sit in my house in your tiny room with 3 friends!! At that age, I liked to go places where I could speak freely and have some independence away from my parents... I hate to say kids these days because it makes me sound like a grandma... but.. kids today are so lazy it's sick. Get off your butt, take a shower and get the fk out of the house!!!!!!

I think "sleepovers" at 17 or 18 are weird. I don't want a bunch of almost adult men up all night in my house in my stepson's bedroom... keeping me awake. I don't care what they are doing.

And I also don't want do deal with them at noon the next day, after they have fallen asleep at 5 am or whatever time, and have to watch them eat everything in my house that SS just offers up to them, as if he paid for it. Or my moron DH offering to cook them a huge breakfast/lunch because that's "just so precious" when he bitches if I ask him for a glass of water if I'm sick.

Finally, I don't want to come across any of these kids day, or night. It's my house. End of story. I want to be comfortable in it.

If that is what lazy, non- contributing Snowflake wants to do, he can get his own apartment and do it!

My DH thinks I'm mean. SS says I'm a bitch. I don't care. Go be weirdos somewhere else.

When my own kids were in the sleepover stage my rule was that they had to alternate. If *jenny* stayed the night last weekend then DD had to stay at her house next. If it wasn't a house I was willing to let my kids stay over at then the kid could not sleep over. I'd go crazy having a bunch of smelly teen boys over every weekend. Talk to your wife about having skid go to friends houses too, maybe having 1x a month sleepovers at your house and his friends get to host too.

I'm sure the friends parents are thrilled to send their hormonal eating machines to your home every weekend!

If he is still in high school it's normal.

My DD had friends staying over or she stayed with them at that age. Better than them being out and about at night.

Now in my previous relationship we had SD living with us at 25 ( which is all in itself was ridiculous) she had screaming girls run around the house raiding refrigerator and being loud all night (no drinking or drugs was involved) but tons of running up and down the stairs and being loud. Also leaving messes everywhere including plugging up the toilet and once flooding the basement. Well there was more to the story but it's one of the reasons why he is ex (I could handle it only for that long).

If your SS still lives with you in his 20s and continues this type of thing, then time to address it. Time to grow up. But as a high school student it's normal as long as it's not every night and he cleans after them