You are here

I just let the MIL have it... well sort of lol

step to grown children's picture

For years, my MIL has always stuck her nose in our business, or making calls and decisions that are completely out of her lane and definitely covertly retaliates when she feels like we or mainly me has wronged her precious babies. The skids run to her to complain and she ends up doing something drastic in return like to teach us a lesson, i guess? For example when SD and I had the first fall out, MIL had my number blocked from SD's phone to ensure SD wouldnt call me/text me again (MIL was paying for her phone then so she had access to her account) instead of letting DH, SDand I talking it out. After the last dinner cancellation, MIL sent us a text saying that the summer vacation at the beach was postponed until further notice. It actually wasn't postponed, we were uninvited. Asking SS20 to pay rent, guess what? SS is now moving in with grandma and we have to rent the house. Good news for us, I guess? But the house is in no condition to be rented, carpet needs to be replaced and may need other repairs. But this is her way of sticking it to us for wanting to charge her grandson rent. I have had to deal with her bullshit for the last 10 yrs. I don't see her often but her anctics often touch our lives. 

So, this morning I texted her because I really wanted to have a one-to-one conversation with her. I wanted to tell her how the events unfolded that weekend and nothing was done intentionally to hurt anyone's feelings. I was going to do this from a humble place with a loving heart to put all of this to rest. I knew that if I want change, I need to go to her because she is the matriarch of the family. But of course some people just cannot let it go. She didn't want to talk to me, even though I have not done anything directly to her. Everything that has happened did not include her at all. I am nice and polite to her, we came to see her for mother's day and DH's dad for Father's Day and brought gifts etc.  I told her that I really wanted to talk to her beacuse I was going to file for divorce but I hoped that we could talk. She said that my issues were my issues. SO.... I sent her a long text. nothing insulting but definitely provocative and if she wants to continue to stick her nose in our business then she needs to know the notonly their truth but mine too at least to cause her doubts in her perfectly planned scheme. 

I started by telling her that the only issues DH and I have are family related ~ her family ~ and that I was tired of being blamed for things I was not responsible for. That DH has made decisions in the past and everyone thinks that I am behind it. The last dinner cancellation was made by DH and not by me (I got blamed for that). I started by telling her about her precious SS. How I found condom wrappers under the extra bedroom's beds and a pair of high heel shoes under our bed. The parties he was having on the weekends without our permission letting people stay over while he was passed out drunk, I also asked her if she had noticed all the alcohol he had in the pantry and fridge (MIL stocks his pantry/fridge so I know she has seen it) for someone underage. Then I told her about SS's complaints against me for talking to his ex girlfriend a few times... eventhough everyone in the fanily still talks to the ex including DH but of course SS cannot be mad at dad etc. Something I havent shared that is very important: Last year DH found out that he may have another child who is now a teenager. The mother is very young and SS and SO have been hanging out with this baby momma on the weekends. So I let MIL know that too... and MIL knows that baby momma too and is not gonna be happy when she finds out that her SS and new SO have been chummy with her. I think this girl (baby momma) created a lot of drama 16 yrs ago. My point? How can SS tell me not to talk to his ex but he can go hang out with one of DH's exs? 

So I aslo tell her about the SS's SO's dirty panties left in the bathroom, the gift we gave her that she left at our house for 3 months and how insulted we were. I then moved on to the other sibling the SD19. SS19's complaint was that I found out about her dating some boy before her family found out and she wanted to know how I found out. So what if someone told me? Last time we were visiting for a family function all of their blood relatives were already talking about SD seeing that new SO while still with the old boyfriend etc. this SD19 has a baby btw.

I think something also was said about me trying to break up their little family. I reminded her that I am the one buying the presents, mailing the packages and cards, planning the trips to go visit and the dinner with their dad. that in reality, the dinner should have been planned by the skids and not by me. I reminded her how I got a second job to help DH pay for the mortgage where her precious SS lives for free. We have done it for a few years and I dont want to do it anymore. that is the only reason we asked SS to start helping out (we didnt even call it rent). Also, we may hear from them less than once a month and in two years no one has come to visit him. that really shows how much they care. I know my words will burn. 

They always want to blame someone and that someone will be the SM. I am sure my text wont matter. MIL will go on believing what she wants to believe. But I told her that she is always sticking her nose in everyone's business as if she knows best. *new_russian*

I wish I could give you feedback tonight or tomorrow but I doubt I will hear back from her. The whole family is like that. they just wont talk. and if I were to come next month, everything would be like nothing happened. ARGH these kind of people irritate me!

Comments

STaround's picture

But when I read the the MIL pays for the kids phone, yep, she has the right to control it.  

step to grown children's picture

I agree.... she pays for a lot of things not only phone bills and because of her "generosity" she expects to be given rights to control what she wants and do what she wants. 

tog redux's picture

Wow, OP, don't take this the wrong way, but you are waaaay overinvolved in all of this skid drama.  Just disengage and let MIL do what ever she's going to do. The skids are adults, and if they move in with GMA to avoid rent, so be it.  Why tell her about the drinking and women in his house, etc? Who care if they hang out with DH's ex? Who cares who SD is or isn't dating?

Just disengage and focus on your own life, your marriage, your own kids, and stop being involved in this nonsense. 

step to grown children's picture

OH NO!! those things were happening at OUR house after we moved out! It is not HIS house, it is our house that we pay for and he lives there for free.

2. I dont care who the girl dates, I actually think she is a good kid. Someone metioned to me the new boyfriend and she found out I knew, and they are the ones having a problem with me knowing.

and last, I dont care if the SS hangs out with DH's ex. I have known about this for over a year and I dont care. BUT, when SS wants to impose on me whom I should talk to (including his ex who happens to talk to my daughters too) then I have a big freaking problem.

tog redux's picture

I understand it was your house. But why do you need to tell MIL that? Just to make sure she knows what a jerk he's been? She's not going to buy into that. 

You aren't hearing what we are saying.  Just stay out of all of this drama. I'll be honest, I can see why they feel you are part of the problem, you seem way overinvolved in their lives. 

MollyBrown's picture

You are way tooooo involved with these kids.  I had forgotten you were the one with thethe Father’s Day dinner fiasco because you wanted girlfriend and boyfriend cell numbers.   Take a giant step back and disengage.  It just might bring you some peace. 

ChamomileTea4Me's picture

"I knew that if I want change, I need to go to her because she is the matriarch of the family."

It sounds like you desperately want someone to hear "your side".  I get that completely!  Unfortunately, I have lost my sh@! a couple of times and unloaded all that I deem to be unhealthy in her family.  That didn't work out so well and I had to work pretty hard to rebuild basic civility between us after that for the sake of my relationship with MR. ED.  

What I've come to learn dealing with enabling GM:

  • She's always been an enabler, knows she's an enabler and will continue to be an enabler.
  • SO is responsible for setting that boundary with GM, so my issue is with him.
  • SO's family doesn't communicate well if at all, but they actually prefer it that way.  The less they know the less guilty they feel about enabling dysfunction.  There's no changing an older family matriarch on that one.
  • She will never come to my defense over her DS or SKIDS.  To validate "my side" fully would mean she would have to acknowledge the dysfunction in her own offspring and in her raising of children.  Not going to happen.
  • Matriarchs don't take kindly to other women telling them how they screwed up raising their kids and grandkids.
  • She will probably turn that right back around on you when it comes to "sticking her nose in everyone's business as if she know's best."  As far as she's concerned, her DS and his kids are HER business, not yours.  That was a hard one for me to wrap my brain around because it's my relationship, my house, my finances, my sanity.  But...I've heard the other side of that thrown right back in my face.

If MIL wants to enable SS, I'd try to let that one go.  At least he is out of your hair, out of your house, and not being enabled by you!  For what its worth...I hear you! <3

 

step to grown children's picture

oh yeah trust me, I am glad the SS is out of there but then I got to deal with the coldness, negativity as if it is my fault! Paying for 2 mortgages has taken a toll on DH and me and it has to stop.

I had never unloaded on her but enough is enough. the retaliation, the covert schemes, etc. gotta go. If they needed a reason not to speak to me, now they have one and I have one not to go visit and DH is on his own  or he can pack his shit and go to.

I get ALL of your points, but when I AM the one paying for the mortgage because remember my income is 3x his.... then I have a right to say what is happening at our house and I have a say so about what the heck this SS is doing. and she can have the SS. I dont care if she wants to enable him. we dont give money. if he is already in debt oh well.... maybe grandma can bail him out.

 

DHsfamilyfromhell's picture

I’m pretty much in her same boat as you. I feel your frustration. I have disengaged. It’s doesnt stop them bitching behind my back, but I can’t bear the fake niceness in person then mil sil and step d all go bitching afterwards. I now only have contact with my brother in laws wife and their son. I am learning to ignore their opinions of me, - but I don’t like being blamed for things I haven’t done, or things that have been twisted. 

I hope things improve for you. 

advice.only2's picture

My mother is like this, if I sent her a text like that she would go radio silent, until she wanted to put me on blast to everybody, then she would come out guns blazing. I have learned with my mom once she thinks she's right, it doesn't matter how valid your arguments or feelings, she won't listen or care. So I have learned to disengage from her, it makes things so much easier. I still love my mom and interact with her, but I refuse to engage in any arguments or if she thinks she's right about something I just smile and nod and move on.

step to grown children's picture

i really appreciate all of your support. i have had a tough week. i have always been nice to my MIL. But I know she resents me for saying anything to the skids. some say "ohh you are too engaged" it is what it is... this is a big family, eveyrone in everyone's business, and not to easy not to get entangled, and when I have a DH that wont leave my hip and wants to drag me everywhere i am faced with a lot of shit to deal with from skids. I have been ambivalent about just letting him go on his own but now I have made up my mind. I am not going back at least for a long time. He can have his crazy family.

I have a family of my own and I keep them at a good distance. my mom doesnt meddle in my married life or with my children. She may not approve but she just shakes her head. 

Exjuliemccoy's picture

The only thing to keep this text from being a complete waste of your time is that perhaps you got some things off your chest.

Now, please make it your swan song and go No Contact with this woman who happens to be related to your H. She isn't a friend to your marriage, has been stomping boundaries for decades, and is a huge contributor to the dysfunction that exists in your H's baggage.

Look at it this way: right now, you're winning. SS is out of you house and wallet, and you and your H can start to move forward in a healthier way. But it starts with YOU. You've simply got to start controlling your thoughts and actions. Either you're participating in the drama or you're not, and at this point you are overly involved in all of it.

Just drop the rope with ALL of your H's people. Stop interfering, stop overfunctioning, stop, stop, STOP because you are only causing more damage. Get a therapist or vent here, but find a way to release all of that frustration and resentment that rightfully should be pointed at your H.

Exjuliemccoy's picture

Came back to say, try just being your H's girlfriend for a while. Let your focus begin and end with just the two of you. His kids, his mother - all of that is outside the tight circle of just you two and is up to him. Pretend you don't know any of them, so of course their issues are none of your business.

Hopefully this technique will help you jumpstart your disengagement.

step to grown children's picture

thank you. But the problem with his lack of backbone at supporting me or defending is still there and its getting harder and harder to stand it

step to grown children's picture

thank you for your delivery. you were able to convey construcive criticism with positive advise in a gentle way that anyone would be willing to accept and not get defensive. I do agree that I am very involved with his family. Never a problem as long as we follow MILs lead but it cannot always be her way and DH rather do her way than fight with his mom.

the only problem is that DH still cannot afford to pay for that mortgage without my financial assistance so I am still involved and if he doesnt move quickly at getting the home fixed up and rented I may have to do it.

as far as anything else, they can it all. I really have no desire at this moment to have any relationship with any of them. I am not of his race, so I think that has also been an issue.

 

tog redux's picture

So the home is one thing, that's between you and DH to sort out. 

But going forward, "that's nice" can be your standard answer to any attempts to try to pull you into the drama.  

"SS is hanging out with DH's ex!"  "That's nice."

"SD is dating someone new!"  "That's nice."

You can drop your part and then they will have no one to blame for anything. 

step to grown children's picture

The SS has been hanging out with with DH's for a year or so now, and I have never complained. I mentioned it to DH and he said it bothered him too but not much he could do.

I dont care who SD is dating, once again, beacuse we live miles away sometimes we find out through social media and we talk about it. I gues they get upset that we find out even though we dont live there? or maybe they think I care so much I have a PI gathering intel?

I never had a part in any of it, all of this got dumped on me like a ton of bricks. thats is what I am trying to say.... I never said anything to the SS about the DH's, I never said anything to SS about the new beau. They make assumptions that are irrelevant and unnecessary.

 

 

 

Mumof8's picture

 cult is what you married into.  So sorry.  I have been blamed by so many people for decisions DH made that I disagreed with, but nothing you can do about it I guess.   Best of luck to you!  Sounds like you are better off, OUT of this crazy family.

ImperfectlyPerfect's picture

"I reminded her that I am the one buying the presents, mailing the packages and cards, planning the trips to go visit and the dinner with their dad."

Yeah....I feel this burn. I just wrote about an abysmal graduation experience where we were publically disrespected and treated terribly. What did I do? Released balloons into the sky. After that experience I dialed WAY down. I don't buy gifts whatsoever. I used to buy christmas gifts, birthday gifts, fund vacations twice a year- heck NO! Not appreciated and SKIDs never recognized my efforts. A fun RECENT story you can relate to - is after copious amounts of wine in the downtown district I realized it was getting close to one of adult SS birthdays...in the window I saw an amazing shirt that he would LOVE. I run into the store spend a good amount of money on this cute polo and ship it off. At first, adult SS thinks dad has given him the shirt- he GLOATS about how great it is! Then DH corrects him and says I've picked it out. I get an obligatory & grumbly thank you along with a complaint that it is now all of sudden too small and that I failed in picking the right size. Lesson learned AGAIN. 

Don't do anything extra- truly. I am getting better at not doing that and spending that hard earned money on myself. Also if you really feel like being generous (which I do from time to time) go find a wonderful person in your life to put that funding towards. Yesterday I went the extra mile for a barista whom is just a joy everytime I see her. I took money and gifts and gave it to her. Guess what? She was grateful ! No complaints only a huge hug. 

strugglingSM's picture

I feel this...my MIL is very similar. I know I'm not going to change her. DH has talked to her and shared specifics about what he needs from her, including that he needs an apology from her for some really egregious things she did. She refused and told him he just needs to "get over it'. We now just let her spend all her time meddling with SSs and keep her at arm's length. She is not going to change, but we have put up walls around our house. I have said a few things to her, but have not let her know what I truly think of her and her dysfunctional, mean, and unhelpful behavior, because I know that if I speak up, I become the bad guy. Instead, I'm just biding my time until we can move away from her. I know that she says things about me that are not nice to SSs and likely to the rest of DH's family and it still bothers me, but I have to not get wrapped up in it for my own sanity. I have a counselor...who I started seeing to deal with HCBM and the dysfunction of DH's family. I once said to the counselor that it hurt me that DH's family did not see me as part of the family. The counselor pointed out to me that it didn't seem like they saw DH as part of the family (they don't...or rather they treat him like his divorce revoked any rights and privileges he has to manage his own life without their meddling), so I shouldn't take it personally. 

People like this will not change....they always have a target. Unfortunately, you are now MIL's target. The best thing you can do is distance yourself from her and force her to find a new target.