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Jr10's picture

Hi everyone - I have seen many of the posts here and this seems like a supportive place. I wanted to post my story in hopes of getting some support. I have been with my fiance for a little over 5 years. I have a daughter of my own and he has 2 daughters (11 and Dirol from two different BMs. When we first started dating his BMs decided to become best friends. They have caused a lot of drama over the years and share information with eachother but we have managed. Our approach has always been to try to "keep the peace". 

SD8's BM has always been the most high conflict of the two and has always tried to look for excuses to reduce visitation. This month she filed an ex parte order of protection against my fiance based on false accusations of verbal abuse. In the order she clained that SD8 told her therapist that her father verbally abused her by screaming at her, talking about her weight, making her feel bad about herself and that she did not want to come here anymore. BM said that the therapist stated she believed she was abused and  recommended that she file an order of protection. He was not allowed to see her for a little over 2 weeks while we waited for the court date. The order was dismissed that day since there was no proof and we found out later that week from the therapist office that they never said that to BM and they never believed SD8 was being abused. The attorney will be subpoenaing docuements from them to prove this.

It turns out that the SAME day that order was dismissed BM went back to court and got an ex parte order of protection for SD8 against me also for verbal abuse. This was also based on false allegations except this time she made no reference to the therapist. She stated that SD8 never wants to see me again. We received a court date 3 weeks out and for the next 3 weeks I am not allowed to be in my home while she is here. This is all an attempt to derail visitation. 

SD8 has many behavioral problems including lying which has gotten worse over the last year. About 4 months ago I told my fiance that I was not comfortable being left alone with SD8 anymore due to her problems with lying. He told me he understood so I haven't even been alone with her in over 4 months.

This came out of nowhere and I am terrified of all of this. I had to go stay with my daughter somewhere else for the whole weekend because I couldn't be in my house. How is it possible that people can sling around false accusations with no accountability??? I am really struggling with this.. 

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Winterglow's picture

I consider people who make false accusations to be despicable. What's in it for them? Do they want more time with their kiddos or more money? I think I'd be going after them for defamation ...

What does the visitation schedule look like?

Jr10's picture

It's every other weekend from Fri to Sunday and one night a week. I wish I knew the clear motive but I think she clearly has some undiagnosed mental illness. As petty as it sounds, I do believe that she just wants to drive me away because in her mind that will bring them together again. I can barely wrap my mind around it. 

One of my big issues here is that my daughter considers my fiance to be her father. In her eyes her BD is a secondary parent. My fiance has been with her when BD was completely absent and even now that he comes around for limited visits she still considers my fiance to be her dad. It killed her to not see him all weekend. I am so angry snd appalled at how malicious this is. I have no history of anything. At all. I can't believe this is happening. 

lieutenant_dad's picture

First and foremost, it shouldn't be YOU that leaves YOUR house. Your FH needs to find some place to have visitation with SD. I know that seems very unfair to him, but this is HIS problem with HIS ex and HIS daughter. If she is going to make false allegations against him, he needs to see hia daughter in public places and/or with others present for his own protection. Does he have any family who would be willing to let them stay with them on his weekends with her?

Secondly, hire your own attorney to protect you and your daughter. Yes, it will be expensive, but it will also be expensive for BM to have two attorneys attacking her/her attorney. You having someone that won't just let BM say and do what she wants without having to answer for it may get her to back way off going forward.

Third and final, consider living apart or having two residences with your FH. On his weekends with SD, he goes and is her dad solely. The rest of the time, he can be with you. If that is not a life you want, you'll have to reconsider this relationship. But it will be the safest unless/until your FH drops the rope and ends visitation with her.

Jr10's picture

I think you're right about having to get my own attorney. I hadn't considered that we would need two separate ones. I did volunteer to leave for the weekend as in my nind it was best to have normalcy for SD8 to TRY and mitigate the risk of additional accusations. It was extremely tough on all of us all weekend. 

One of my big issues here is that my daughter considers my fiance to be her father. In her eyes her BD is a secondary parent. My fiance has been with her when BD was completely absent and even now that he comes around for limited visits she still considers my fiance to be her dad. It killed her to not see him all weekend. I am so angry snd appalled at how malicious this is. I have no history of anything. At all.

I also have this feeling of impending doom that this BM is going to convince the other BM to also file a false order to derail our lives even more. He has 50/50 placement of SD11 so I don't even know how we would make that work. He does speak to the family he has due to toxicity that we did not want around our family and I don't have family here. 

I'm really struggling with all of this.

shamds's picture

Need to vacate your home to accommodate sd's visit? Why is your husband not holding this visit in a hotel or his parents house for the weekend?

kicking you out of the home and assumedly your minor daughter further fuels this bullshit nonsense. 
 

if any of my sd's pulled this crap and i was ordered to not be in presence of sd's, visits would be held outside the home
 

at most al court should state is you cannot be there at visits. Hubby is free to hold visits at another address temporarily. By kicking you out, your home is no longer your sanctuary

CLove's picture

It is definitely a struggle, and as time goes on and skids get older, the struggle gets harder.

1. YOU do not leave your home with your daughter, your FH can have visitations somewhere else. I do not understand why you have to go anywhere.

2. Trust me - the accusations get worse over time, not better. HCBM will up the ante, and you can potentially lose custody visitation of your child. Weighing the risk/reward, is this the relationship for you?

I have seen this before. I have been the recpient of accusations. Unfounded accusations. I dont feel comfortable being alone in the house with SD16 backstabber/munchkin. I am no contact with SD23 Feral Forger. Its been a long 8 years...

Jr10's picture

How did you navigate through this when you were accused? Did your relationship survive the false accusations? 

CLove's picture

If you read my blogs, its been a tough row to hoe.

I navigated through not having my own bios, and also by disengaging. I try not to be alone in the house with SD16 B/M. I am no contact with the SD23 Feral Forger, as shes aged out of visitation and lives with her mother. Shes moved out and back with Toxic Troll BM a few times.

Husband has his relationship (when she needs him or needs something or its a holiday birthday) with her and keeps it separate.

When the accusations occurred, I had witnesses. There were no repercussions on Skids (of course), and everything got swept under the rug (until the next time). Feral Forger accused me of calling her names and telling her shes an "effing b". When Toxic Troll asked husband if I had actually done this, he said "no it was feral forger that was yelling and it was her that called Clove names".

Ive never been accused of physical harm, just "general harassment". nanny cams might help in your case.

Our relationship survives - I do not discuss Skids except in very general terms. Its not thriving. When Husband mentions taking vacation with SD16 B/M I just shrug and change the subject. School Gate and the non-romantic unfun holiday of last year and year before killed all my desire to make memories with her.

advice.only2's picture

 Ultimately your job is to protect your child and yourself, that might mean ending the relationship or holding off on marrying your SO until SD is 18.  At this point living separately might be the best option for you and your child.  It’s not ideal but if you and SO really want to be together this might be the best way.  I would also advise your SO to get nanny cams to cover every inch of his home so that when BM escalates her accusations your DH has his bases covered.  You might want to consider filing a restraining order against his BM as you don’t know what lengths she will go to.  There was another poster on here whose SO’s baby mama actually called her work and tried to get her fired and also accused her of abusing the stepchild. 

CastleJJ's picture

BM has accused DH, myself, and other family members of a variety of things over the years. BM accused my BIL of sexual misconduct, not seeking criminal charges or anything, just wanting a clause added to the CO that SS would never have contact with him. Guess what, she got that. BIL has never met SS10 and BM only did it because she knew it would hurt DH. The only time BIL and SS were in the same room together was our wedding, which BM demanded to attend to supervise SS. Well, BM attended our wedding, sat in the corner like a loner, and 8 months later during our custody battle, accused BIL of luring SS into a bathroom at our wedding. Our attorney had a field day pointing out that if BM was there to supervise SS, what did that say about her ability to parent and protect him? Needless to say, all allegations from that instance were dropped. 

Our attorney advised us that BM would likely start making false allegations when we took her to court. He recommended buying security cameras and having them present and recording whenever SS was with us. We put one in each of the main living areas - kitchen, living room, dining room, and one outside of SS' bedroom door (to record who came in and out). You can't record in a bedroom due to privacy laws. BM didn't know about them and SS asked about them once. We deflected, telling him it was to keep an eye on the pets when we weren't home. It was a lifesaver. BM later accused DH of physical abuse, but because she had testified in court that DH was not abusive, it was dismissed. Plus, we had video evidence, documenting every second of SS' visitation, so it was hard to argue with that. Once BM found out we had been recording visitation, there were no more allegations. I highly recommend cameras if these allegations are dismissed and visitations resume. Until then, I would make DH have all visitation outside of the home. You and your daughter deserve some stability despite this mess. 

I did have the conversation with DH, that if BM continued to pursue this crazy vendetta against us, he would have to choose between our family or seeing SS (since we only see SS 6 weeks per year on a long distance schedule). It wasn't really feasible to do out of home visitation due to our schedule. It never came to that point but DH was ready to stop all visitation if the allegations continued. 

Exjuliemccoy's picture

Lots of good advice already about prioritizing the safety of your daughter. Regarding the pending court date concerning BM's accusations against you, try posponing it until AFTER your fiance's attorney has received the therapist's notes so you can use them as leverage in your own case. Hire your own SHARK attorney to lay out the ugly truth of BM's alienation campaign, request legal fees, and an order of protection.Then your fiance uses your case (if the outcome is favorable, that P.O. will be valuable) AND the notes as leverage to regain as much lost ground as possible. He should ask for legal fees (if applicable in RI), lost visitation time, and counseling be ordered to help repair his relationship with SD. Two separate court cases, both requesting damages, may shut down the harpy for a while.

You need understand that with HCBMs, they fight dirty - dirtier than you've ever imagined -  and continue to escalate until the other parent either gives up or drops so much napalm on them they learn that screwing with their ex = PAIN. My DH's eldest daughter is a narc and a HCBM who thought she was going to dictate terms when her first H divorced her. Well, he scorched the earth around her so badly with attorneys paid by his wealthy family that she never tried to mess with custody or c.s. again.

IF you stay with this man, you'll need to take every precaution to protect yourself and your daughter for the next decade. You'll be up against TWO BMs working in concert, wishing you harm, and BOTH SDs will likely be weaponized. You'll never know peace. Is that what you want for your child? 

Jr10's picture

Thank you so much for this information. Since I am new here I am trying to keep up with the comments. 

Several people have recommended hiring my own lawyer. I am trying to research a good shark lawyer but I can't find a clear candidate. It seems the reviews are vague. I do think I will need my own lawyer at this point but I do want one that's aggressive. 

I wish there were consequences for filing false reports Especially when it's so clearly false but I can't find anything to indicate what those consequences are. 

Exjuliemccoy's picture

when HCBM is playing chess.

Due to gender bias, BMs seldom lose in family court issues like custody and c.s.. We learned the best way to affect HCBM was to hit her in the pocketbook or expose her lies in court. We'd refute some lie(s) at a court appearance, she'd be humiliated and fail to show up at the next one. So then we asked the judge to impose sanctions (a financial judgement) on BM for disrespecting the Court's time. We never saw a cent of it, but it was another weapon to use against her.

It's good to have your own counsel, because frankly your best interests may not jibe with your SO's. If you're in the US and live in a city, try checking Reddit to see if there's a subreddit for it. You can create a post asking for recommendations for a good law firm there.

shamds's picture

You end their ability to do that.

sd is making false allegations against you means she has no contact or presence with you in your home ever or any meets in public together. You do not be anywhere in their presence. You do not vacate otherwise hubby is signalling that he agrees you did abuse her.

what message is he sending about your relationship? Its that you're so not in this together, that you are not a priority and he definitely does not have your back

when i saw the warning signs of sd's hubby refuted them, said i was imagining things that they loved us which is impossible when they referred to me and our 2 kids together who were 1 & 2 as the new family like hubby had abandoned them.
 

Didn't take long, within a few meets were the cheoa digs and criticisms to put us down, then miniwive behaviour, followed by them thinking they had authority over me and my 2 kids with hubby.

Barely 1 yr into us first meeting sd's did the eldest sd now 24 call hubby with fake cries on the phone claiming he abandoned them to marry me and have 2 kids with me to replace them. That was so far from the truth when sd's knowingly believed bio mums lies about their dad and me, admitting they knew it was lies, excused and justify the lies mum made about us saying she was bitter and traumatised about the divorce

that was total bullshit when she was openly having an affair with her ex highschool sweetheart who was married and married him the week after divorce was finalised. She doesn't get to claim she's bitter and traumatised when she had been married already 5 yrs and bragged to people how in demand she was and could get a bloke stat. 
 

sd's made a decision to end contact with dad because its part of the narc high conflict manipulative playbook and hope daddy will jump through hoops for you. They didn't contemplate daddy would meet someone and realise how toxic and unhealthy their shenanigans were

the moment hubby told me the sd's were scapegoating me and our 1 & 2 year olds as the reason why they don't have a relationship with daddy when they cut off contact 5.5 yrs prior and i only met hubby 4 yrs prior to that was when i refused any meets in public with them, any holidays were to be sd free.

ss isn't as under control by biomum as she abandoned him and he was under my husband's custody so he despises his mother.

when i cut off the contact, bio mum and stepdaughters have no power anymore to control my marriage or cause more issues and they have no more ammo but in order to do that, you need to have trust in your spouse that they have your back so any meets your spouse has with his feral kids and they spew more lies, he has your back 100%
 

its hard for op to feel that way because her partner openly supports kicking his fiancé out of the house over lies, he doesn't have the balls to address this and say i refuse to have my daughter in my home until she apologises and puts in writing the lies she made.

sd needs to understand actions have consequences and so to inaction has consequences too

you aren't even married yet and things are thhis bad already. They won't get better.

i foresee closer to the wedding the typical narc playbook of sd's telling daddy it me or her(you) and he has to choose between marrying you and losing a relationship with sd's or he picks them and ditches you. The latter option is one where they never end up being happy and live miserable lives