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Drac0's picture

I just got off the phone with DW.

I could tell by the sound of her voice that it wasn't something she wanted to talk about.

And I knew what she was going to say.

"Well SS said he was having trouble with his science teacher. When I go see the teacher on Thursday, I am going to ask her why the class average is so low..."

I knew she was going to say that.

"Okay. So what about math!?" I ask.

"Urm....ahhh....durh...."

"DW, need I remind you that on the ONE weekend we had SS before the math exam, SS hardly studied! When we forced him to study, he just sat there and cried!!"

I told her that no matter what the teacher says, SS needs to have all his electronic priveledges revoked. I also told her that giving him a PS3 for Christmas was a bad idea because I KNEW this was going to happen.

"I don't want to levy any punishment until I get a chance to speak to the teachers...."

Frack me! Am I speaking Swahili!?!? Why am I suffering from Cassandra's curse!? I see the future. I warn her about the future and even when the catastrophe hits, she STILL won't listen to me!!!

"Well...Instead of punishing him. Maybe we can come up with a plan? Maybe we can get SS to do extra math work that you can go over with him?"

"Why should I do that DW? WHY!?!? I have two other children that need my attention! Why should I focus all my energies in the evening to focus on one kid who doesn't want to do the work and cries to get his mommy to get him out of a jam!?!? WHY!?!?"

"I don't want to argue about this. I have to go back to work now. Bye *click*"

ARRRRRRRRRRGHHH!!!!

Switch the tac nuke indicator to DEFCON 4 please!

Comments

Sports Fan's picture

Okay, it's official. Your wife has left the building and is in complete denial. Wait to talk to the teachers first?????????? Yes, that's it. The teachers are out to get tall boy. I don't know how you do it Draco.

Sports Fan's picture

I was kidding about the teacher being out to get tall boy. It's got to be the oldest excuse in the book. I'm afraid that DW is going to be taking care of tall boy for a long, long, long time. Sorry Draco.

Drac0's picture

SS's Science teacher reminds me a little of my old high school chemistry teacher. No one liked her. She assigned a TON of work and her classrooms were out of control. It seemed like the more out of control the class got, the more work she assigned.

However, if you did all the work she assigned, you were guaranteed a pass. It didn't matter if you paid attention in class or not; as long as you did the work she assigned, you were prepared for the final. Of course, being a teen, I didn't get that. I did the work, but I hated the teacher for assigning so much work. It felt like punishment.

But I passed. Actually, not only did I pass but I was well prepared for chemistry class at college.

PokaDotty's picture

Really broken?!?! Come on!!! SD has an "out to get her teacher" EVERY year. She says it's the truth so it must be so....

PokaDotty's picture

IMHO, you still move forward. You set the expectation bad grades = loss of electronics, not DW. You said it multiple times.

To me, if you cave now, you send a strong message to not only tall boy, but the mini-dracos that DW will always get them out of punishment as long as they play her right.

IMO, of course.

Drac0's picture

Yeah I agree. If I back off, it not only sends a bad message to my bios, but to pretty much everyone that I - the so-called man of the house - am all bark and no bite. I told SS that if there was one failure on his report card, I was going to make his life a living hell.

princessmofo's picture

Yea, this would be MY hill to die on. It would be like the arms race. It would just keep escalating but I'd be damned if I backed down now.

Pokeyketchum's picture

I think this is just another example of no matter how badly he fails DW will always have an excuse readied for the tall boy. Always. So proceed to the hardware store. Cover the outlets.
You have been saying for weeks that the end result would be this. So stand firm.

QueenBeau's picture

"Frack me! Am I speaking Swahili!?!?"

this made me literally LOL at my office. Hahaha

Drac0's picture

My ONLY gripe against teachers is that I wish the teachers would not worry about filtering their comments to us at parent-teacher interviews.

"Yeah...Uh....Thank you for coming. SS is....ah....well, he really is a 'nice boy'. He's really tall too! It's just that, he should maybe concentrate on keeping his attention on me rather than than on his friends....but it is nice that he is so sociable!"

Just tell me straight.

"Yeah. SS is fooling around in class."

Apart from that, I am in complete agreement. It pains me to see good teachers be forced to do more and more with less and less resources.

Sparklelady's picture

I have to agree with Ripley. I used to worry about the different parenting thing too, but I just can't do it anymore. As long as I'm disengaged (and I get sucked back in from time to time, but I'm getting better) I can just walk away from the frustration of what my DH and SS16 are throwing away and focus on my amazing DS15 who cares about his future. They make their own choices (both your DW and the boy) and the sooner you accept it the better for you. It sucks, but it's helping my heart and sanity.

AllySkoo's picture

Wait, wait, wait, I'm confused. Did you say, "If he fails one class he loses electronics"? Or did you say, "If he fails one class he loses electronics unless someone can come up with a reason he failed"?

I know a kid (in my sister's class in HS) who missed 8 weeks of classes because he was undergoing treatment for cancer. THAT kid managed to work with tutors and keep up with his classwork and passed the semester.

So there is no reason - literally not one reason - that would be good enough to justify NOT carrying through on the consequences you outlined. I don't care if a teacher was "out to get him" or not - if that was the case he should have made DOUBLY sure that all work was handed in and being graded appropriately, and there should have been notice (and time to take action) WAY before report cards.

Not that any teacher was actually out to get him. I'm just saying even if you accept their premise that SS failed for some reason OTHER than the fact that he just didn't bother to learn the material - it's still his fault. Outside factors can - and should have been - mitigated. If he didn't take those steps to ensure that his "hard work" would be recognized, then the failure is still his and he still needs to lose his games.

misSTEP's picture

His teacher is out to get him. Just like the project partners were out to get him or did it without him or whatever the hell his excuse was there too.

She is suffering a severe case of Ostrich parent.

Maybe YOU should suggest he go live with Donkeykong. At least then you wouldn't have this level of frustration in your life. Maybe the kid would get off mommy's teat too.

Willow2010's picture

I figured pretty close. She just went that sooner than I thought. I thought she would at least be mad one day.

Any way...You need to tread very carefully my friend. I think you know I think you should disengage. I know you wont. At this time.

But IMHO...if you continue to try to be "the man of the house" this way....it is probably going to put a GIANT strain on your marriage. Are you really willing to risk it? Lose your wife and kids all because she will not raise her other child correctly?

Just be careful. And trust me...I really wish that DW would let you come down on this kids head. Or at least that she would come down on this kids head. But I don't think it is going to happen. I think the more you push the kid, the more she is going to "protect" him from big bad Draco.

AllySkoo's picture

Draco, I've been thinking about your situation. I know you are constitutionally unable to disengage. Unfortunately, you and DW apparently are completely incapable of coparenting your SS as well. (I hope to GOD that you're better at it with your bios!) That really only leaves one option, but it's a bit radical. Ready?

What if you just took over? No, wait, hear me out! DW clearly doesn't like being the "bad guy" with her son. She's a Disney Mom. I suspect though that she doesn't actually resent or dislike your parenting - what she doesn't like is when you institute a consequence and SS whines to her until she overturns it. So what if you guys made a deal? Propose to DW that YOU implement the consequences (you can discuss them with her in private) and she is perfectly welcome to take absolutely no blame about it to SS. When he whines, she just says, "You'll have to take it up with Draco, there's nothing I can do about it." (And that has to be true. Talk about that up front - if she comes to you after the fact and wants to get SS out of consequences, the answer will be NO.) She doesn't have to OWN the parenting, in other words, she just has to get out of your way.

It's nowhere close to ideal, and not something I would normally suggest, but I feel like you've tried virtually everything else! If nothing else, maybe this will at least prevent him from living in your basement as a 30 year old....

AllySkoo's picture

LOL! Drac0 can send her here. We have lots of experience helping the sparent of Tall Boy, we can help her too. Wink

Drac0's picture

> part of the problem being that Drac0 seems to baby DW as well <

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Urm...sorry. No.

But thanks for making me laugh this morning.

Drac0's picture

A gentleman will always entertain a lady's fantasies no matter how deluded they are...But "baby" my wife?

I don't even baby my daughter, and she's THREE!

Drac0's picture

>What makes you think women have deluded fantasies?<

Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But IF they do, I have no problems with it. Wink

ChiefGrownup's picture

Have a come to Jesus meetin' with your wife, Draco. Tell her firmly in no way is it the teacher's fault. The boy does not study. He does not do homework. He does not pay attention in class. That means he could have Socrates himself for a teacher and he would still fail. Don't let her whine about how she thought he WAS studying that one time when she found a book under his bed blah blah blah. Tell her she is kidding herself and no one else.

If she absolutely can not let it go, give her this challenge. Get the final exam or whatever test you like from these suspicious teachers. Give the test to the boy yourselves at home. Do it orally. Ask him what is a covalent bond? Or whatever concept he ought to know by now from being in the class.

If he can get 85% or more doing it right in front of you on the spot, you will listen to what she has to say about finding alternative ways for him to score points. That is, if you can concentrate while all those pretty piggies are flying about.

When the boy inevitably fails the test you give him, tell her there is no possible evidence that the boy deserves anything but the Fs he got. If he needs an IEP, so be it, but whatever she is doing now is not working. And there are plenty of kids in that class who did get As and Bs so quit hanging your hopes on the teacher.

Furthermore, even if the teacher is an actual psycho who picks random kids to pick on at the beginning of every semester tell her the kid is going to have to learn to deal with difficult people/bosses all his life. Start coping and succeeding NOW.

ctnmom's picture

Draco, have you had "the talk" with DW about when he turns 18? How does she in vision his future? On you guys' couch?

hismineandours's picture

I do not think you should take over. Definitely not, I took over when my ss16 was like 2, because dh had custody and was gone a lot for work and because I knew I was better parent than he or bm. I really thought I was doing a good thing. I was willing to "take one for the team" because my main concern at that point was for ss to turn out well.

Some of the things that occurred do to this are 1) ss decided that he hated me. 2) I gave both dh and bm the perfect excuse to parent even less-hmo is doing such a great job- there's nothing left for us to do. 3). Dh and I had quite a few rocky years in which he blamed me for all of ss's issues ( similar to the teacher is out to get my angel- just replace teacher with hmo). 4)this blame prevented dh or bm ( for she blamed me too) from getting ss the help he needed to be successful. 5) dh and bm totally undermined me so ss thought he could get away with murder because mommykins and daddykins would always take his "side".

My ss16 is currently residing at juvenile detention. His second stay. His second stay for dealing drugs in a school. He may have to stay until he is 18. I have not spoken to him in over 2.5 years. Dh just started speaking to him last month after 18 months of no contact (right after he was arrested because he apparently needs more people to tell him it's not his fault)

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying all these things occurred because I took over the parenting, but I definitely think it was a factor. I did disengage between ages 9.5 and 13.5 ( it was a slow painful process) and guess what my dh had an ephihany that gee, his kid really does have some issues. He tried to step up to the plate ( although probably not til I was 80 per cent disengaged) but it was too little too late. Today, I pull no punches with dh. He was excited when ss called him ( lack of contact has been ss's choice) and told me he wanted to change. I actually snorted and told him I'd find that more believable if he'd made that call prior to his arrest. When dh told me he hoped ss could stay in detention rather than be moved to doc because he didn't want poor lil ss around those bad kids, I once again snorted and said 'he IS one of those bad kids". Needless to say dh has decided to quit bringing up the kid to me or making silly statements.

I am more of the belief that if u completely pull back, leave this parenting thing up to dear wife, and especially the school thing that it may force her to get off her arse and do what is necessary to help her kid- if it's not too late

Shaman29's picture

Broken record here......

Disengage. Disengage. Disengage. Disengage.

When she speaks to you about SS, just smile, nod and say "Mmmmmmhmmmm. Mmmmmhmmmmm. Okay. Well I don't have the extra time to help him, so it would be best if YOU sit down with him instead." Or "Mmmmmmmhmmmm. Mmmmmmhmmmm. Okay. I understand your point, however I don't feel I can offer any further help or suggestions. I'll just follow your lead as you handle him the way you feel is best."

And move on.

She is not going to change the way she deals with SS. She IS going to continue to manipulate the situation so you feel guilty and bend. She wants you to do things HER way and tell her SHE is right. As far as I can tell, she lacks any real intelligence or the ability for critical thinking. All she knows how to do is have temper tantrums and cry when you don't bend to her will or if she doesn't get her way.

Similar to your SS.

At some point you need to decide if this conflict over your SS is worth the risk to your marriage and relationship. He is a continual point of contention between you and your W. Sooner or later this is going to blow up in your faces.

moeilijk's picture

I secretly think ss enjoys proving himself and loves knowing my husband cares enough to come down hard on him.

THIS. Thank you.

thinkthrice's picture

Drac0 will never win in this sitch. As others have said, if he becomes the REAL parent, DW will call him "mean" and will team build with the tall one. Then when that fails out of frustration and tallboy's demands and lack of effort become ever higher, he will want to move into the house with the least amount of rules. Which will be Donkey Kong's. Which will cause DW to turn on Drac0 and blame him for "losing her child" (TM)

In this case disengaging is the best and use the example of what NOT to do with your bios. (Different dad, different rules; it's because I CARE about you that I have rules for you)

It's that or divorce DW, send her packing with the tall one and gain complete custody of your bios with supervised visitation for DW seeing she can't parent to save her life.