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Priorities - am I asking for too much?

Doublehelix's picture

Fact: I do not know what it feels like to be a bioparent and FH does not know what it feels like to be a stepparent. And this causes complexities... Still, we get into these situations, and I wonder how they should be best handled, and in my frustrations and resentments, it always feels like FH puts SD above our relationship, so I'm curious if that stems from my general discomfort navigating steplife or if I truly need to speak up more for myself.

1. For my birthday last year, I told FH I'd like him to plan something, bc I'm always the one planning everything. His mother was also visting from abroad at the time, so we had SD for longer than usual so she could spend time with grandma. FH chose paragliding, which was a very unique and fun experience. I failed to request that he plan something JUST FOR US (something I hoped he'd want to do on his own), and so FMIL and SD came along, with FH giving them both the option to participate if they wanted. We were having dinner alone later that night so I wasn't that bothered by it. Now while we were told an 80-year-old woman had safely paraglided before, FMIL still politely declined to participate. Paragliding is not inexpensive - you pay for 30 min at least, but our guide let us stay for more (or less time). My FH and I of course, milked it for as long as we could. However, I KNEW at SD's age (6), she would not be able to really appreciate the experience - she just has FOMO - and was crying the whole time me and her dad were in the air, whining for her turn. I expressed my concerns to FH but he was just enamored by the fact that she was brave enough to try it. As I predicted, she was done after only 10 min and already asking what we were gonna do next. I didn't pay for the experience, but seriously, it bothered my that FH just wanted to satisfy his daughter's whim when that money probably could have been spent on something more productive. 

2. Most of the time I feel like adult time is never a priority for FH, despite him claiming otherwise. It's always "no big deal" to take SD along. Even when we have "us" trips planned, if BM said she needed some help watching SD for whatever reason, it's always "no big deal" to add SD to the flights. Anything fun that I wanted to do with him - well it's "no big deal" to include SD. There's less to argue about if it's literally something SD can't participate in, but for the most part, there aren't that many things kids are BANNED from, so he always finds some way to rationalize her inclusion. Yes, the physical act of bringing her along is "no big deal," but it changes the dynamics dramatically. It's not about us anymore, but about her - how to keep her entertained, her taking over all the conversations... It's also harder on me bc 1. I don't innately enjoy her presence as he does, and 2. she is REALLY clingy to me. Yes, I know he loves his daughter and wants to spend every waking moment with her, but is it really that unreasonable for me to WANT him to WANT to spend alone time with me? And not just when it's convenient, or we just happen to find ourselves alone, but to actually PLAN for it, and PUSH for it. I guess I'm just "no big deal"...

3. Last month, my elderly father landed in the ER twice. The second time, he was checked into a hospital about an hour away from me. We had SD that weekend, and admist all the stress over my father, I had immediately resigned to the fact that FH would not be able to accompany me to the hospital alone. For him, it was again "no big deal" for SD to tag along, but I didn't want her there and having to hear how bored she was, or worse, talking over the doctors and nurses and getting in their way. But of course, I would have wanted him there. My therapist asked - why didn't he get a sitter or let BM take SD for a night? I didn't think about any of these things either bc I'm just programmed to think I have to suck it up, but I asked FH later what he thought about these other ways we could have handled it. The sitter, it was too last minute to hire someone - I agreed with that. Her BM, he balked at that idea bc it was too much hassle - she was too far, he didn't want to deal with her. So it's always "no big deal" for us to accommodate SD/BM, but now it's too big of a deal to rearrange things so that I could get some support? I dunno if I'm crazy, but my resentment tells me he's willing to accommodate for SD/BM bc that means he's spending MORE time with SD, but accommodating for me means taking time AWAY from SD. 

4. If my FH truly put us first, would I have to ask him less for things? The needs of a child come first - I get that, so it seems really natural for FH to take care of his daughter, and she obviously doesn't have to tell him how to do it. He's just always going to make choices in a way that furthers her physical, emotional, academic, and social development. I, again, as an adult have less needs, so I feel like he thinks he doesn't have to do anything. Beee In the case of the ER visit, I didn't NEED FH to come with me - I'm a grown adult who can drive myself - but as an adult, there are a lot of things I don't NEED bc I can take care of myself. So does that mean I always take backseat? On the flip side, I could entertain the notion that he always thinks it's no big deal with SD bc he wants to prove that we can still do things even in her presence, but for me at least, it's not the same...so this goes back to my original fact: are we never going to see things the same way bc we are wired differently?

Despite this ridiculously long prose, I do believe FH is a good man and is honestly wants the best. But we are just having a really hard time getting on the same page and I would love everyones thoughts... We tried counseling briefly, but I think FH had a lot of individual work to do first (which he is doing) and the therapist didn't "get" us, so we're tabling that for now.

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Ispofacto's picture

This!

Call me manipulative if you want, but DH and I have been a couple for 10 years and I still flirt with him.  And he likes it.

You:  *seductive look*  "We needs some alone time.  Let's set a weekly date night for just the two of us."  "Let's plan a romantic getaway this weekend, we can tour the local winery."  "I need some adult attention, if you know what I mean."

DH:   "Meow."

The flip side of this is, when your needs haven't been met, the natural response is:

DH:  "Meow?"

You:  "Meh.  I'm not feeling very romantic right now.  Sorry, Honey."

 

tog redux's picture

For whatever reason, some men find it hard to put their wives/GFs ahead of their children after a divorce. 

But you have to speak up for yourself - he can't know you are upset if you don't tell him.  It's perfectly reasonable to want time alone with him on your birthday (and who the hell drags a 6-year-old and an 80-year-old paragliding?!).  When he says, "It's no big deal!" when he invites SD along, say, "It is a big deal to me, I'd like time alone with you."  When he says, "You hate my kid," say, "Actually - I don't.  I just want time alone with you sometimes."  Don't let him distract and confuse.

Please hammer this out before you get married, or I promise, you will be here 6 years from now feeling very bitter and angry about your situation.

Doublehelix's picture

Agreed...as someone who cares TOO much about others sometimes, it just drives me mad how dense my SO is... I have to remind him all the time..."it's no big deal...TO YOU"

TwelveLongYrs79's picture

the guilt-driven parenting of including step children in EVERY aspect of every waking moment. I understand wanting to make up for list time, but it doesn’t have to include kids. All. The. Time. If it were just BKs in the mix... no one would bat an eye at the parents wanting to “escape” their children for an evening for some alone time as adults. And BMs are given their passes, as they are such dedicated parents and deserve the alone time. And SM is vilified for wanting the same...Doing things like this just entitle children to think they are the center of the universe. And then Daaaddeee wonders why his kids end up like jerks! *scratch_one-s_head*

Doublehelix's picture

YES, the double standard is maddening. For whatever reason...maybe he felt neglected by his own parents...I think SO is a guilty-parent period, regardless of parenting with me or BM.

Just J's picture

Wow, so many posters putting this all on the OP and zero responsibility for this on this idiot dude. Now I'm assuming he's in this relationship willingly, he's not being held hostage by her, so as his girlfriend, fiancé, whatever she has the absolute right to not have her boyfriend's kid around ALL. THE. TIME. He's being a terrible boyfriend and I think he'll be hard pressed to find any woman who will put up with this. Damn my kids are my and DH's bios and we want time alone from them sometimes!

OP, you can do better than this dude. You don't need to be third wheel to a child and he likey won't change. Until she grows up, finds her own sucker and ditches him in a minute and he'll wonder why he's alone. He'll probably tell you SD should come on your honeymoon and it will be "no big deal." And he'll definitely want her in the delivery room if you have a baby with him. Not sure I could live like that and I really think you need to think long and hard about whether or not you can. I'm just not sure he will ever get it, and you could waste a lot of your life waiting to see if he ever does.

Aunt Agatha's picture

But the OP first needs to find her voice so he knows that’s unacceptable to OP (and any other woman -or same sex partner or really anyone -  of sense in this world.)

Sadly, no one is a mind reader and the only way to make your feelings known is out loud. It does seem that there’s reluctance to rock the boat.  But if her FDH can’t handle another persons feelings and perspective, he’s really not a good catch.

 

Doublehelix's picture

OK, I totally agree that I need to speak up! But seriously, I'm not skipping around telling him everything is rainbows and butterflies...he does know, he just thinks bc he's not consciously putting SD first, he's not doing anything wrong. Grr...

Doublehelix's picture

He's being a terrible boyfriend and I think he'll be hard pressed to find any woman who will put up with this.

Guess he'll have to go back to BM... Even she has a life that doesn't always include her kid though...geez...

I know...I just put too much trust in people to do the right thing. 

Monkeysee's picture

I dealt with this recently with my DH. He hadn’t displayed any signs of Disney until I got pregnant and slowly but surely the Disney started creeping in. It was awful. Not only was it awful, but the kids very quickly started picking up on the fact they were always coming first & started treating me the same way their dad was - like I didn’t exist & wasn’t important.

It’s taken months to get it through his thick head that what he was doing was not only destructive to OUR relationship, but also to my relationship to the boys & their overall sense of where they belong in the hierarchy of our family. They became more & more selfish & self-centred, which is hardly a desirable trait in any human being. 

It came to a head not long ago & I started throwing examples of how he used to parent them - with the expectation of respect, manners, and discipline, versus how he was now parenting them - allowing them to interrupt, putting them first no matter what (pregnant SM wants to leave but you want to stay? Ok we’ll stay! Pregnant SM can wait), and generally allowing them to call the shots & get away with murder. It went from the 4 of us as a family (now 5) to them vs me, seemingly overnight.

Just like your FH, none of this bothered my DH, because HE wasn’t the one on the receiving end of things. I was. But, unlike what you’re doing by ‘sucking it up’, I stood my ground. Which meant going toe to toe with my DH and telling him outright that it’s not ALWAYS about the kids. They can’t ALWAYS come first if you want to stay happily married, or married at all. 

He said he could see the difference in how I treated them & didn’t want them to resent me, so he was doing more for them as a result. I told him he had it totally backwards. And that my behaviour had changed due to him repeatedly putting them first, and if he didn’t want them to resent me that he should also be considerate of me not resenting them either. If he wants to stave off resentment, they go back to where they belong in the pecking order, which is below me & DH. And they stay there. 

It finally came out that he was worried about how they’d react to the new baby & wanted to ensure they still felt loved. I reminded him that a new baby in ANY family dynamic is a change, and sometimes a difficult one, but that everyone learns to adapt. We can and will do everything we can to make sure they feel included (and we do), but parenting out of guilt is not the answer. Instead it’ll destroy our family & teach them that nobody matters but them. 

Girl, you need to find your voice and be CLEAR to your FH. It IS a big deal to include her constantly. No marriage/relationship can withstand a third wheel all the time & come out unscathed. It’s not possible. Marriages break down all the time because spouses feel neglected after the kids come along, so this isn’t unique to blended families & second/third/whatever marriages. Your partner must be your top priority for your relationship to thrive. Sometimes YOU need to come first, and SD needs to take the backseat. More often than not, actually. It’s not healthy for kids to take that top spot. All that does is raise entitled, spoiled, selfish self centred little brats, who turn into entitled, selfish, self centred adults that no one wants to be around. 

Keep up with the therapy and find your voice. You do not need to take this lying down, and I absolutely would not be getting married to this guy before he proves to you through action that YOU - not his kid - are his priority. Her needs come first - clothing, shelter, education, food - but your wants & needs come before any of her wants, (within reason, of course. Flexibility is important). If you’re always in the backseat your marriage is doomed before it’s even begun. Take care of YOU.

Doublehelix's picture

Oh dear god, it got worse AFTER you got pregnant? That is my nightmare. 

The thing about entitled, selfish, self-centered people is...yeah, no one wants to be around them...but they don't care, they're not the problem, etc...vicious cycle...

Thanks, I hope it worked out for you!!

I'm out's picture

Agree with justj. The paragliding would have been a deal breaker for me I think if that sort of thing happens all the time, it was your birthday, a day for you I and he brought sd. He obviously already had a babysitter in the form of his mother so why didn't he give you your special day. The only reason I can come up with is that you are still in the stage of going along with it all. I did too for the first 2 years but after that I know for a fact sd wouldn't have come paragliding for my birthday because I would have put my foot down and said no. No offence to sd but it changes the whole day when she's around, I said that many times.

You need to start speaking up, think of it this way...you are looking out for your so, your so is looking out for sd and sd is looking out for sd..... who's looking out for you? Only you can do that.

I don't think anything will change though unfortunately but by standing your ground every now and then life might be a bit more bareable for you. Of course you want him to want to spend alone time with you as he should. You'd like him to feel as excited by you as he does by sd. I never found the answer, I left but I hope you do manage to find a way around this but whatever you do if nothing changes know that you are not asking too much and there are plenty of men out there that will WANT to share special experiences with you and only you.

Doublehelix's picture

Thanks, and I'm sorry it didn't work out for you, but hopefully you are in a better situation now.

you are looking out for your so, your so is looking out for sd and sd is looking out for sd..... who's looking out for you? Only you can do that.

So true... ::sigh:: But man, if I have to constantly look out for myself, why do I even need a husband? -__- 

hereiam's picture

He may not be ready to be in a relationship. Which is fine, but he needs to be able to recognize and admit that, instead of wasting your time.

ESMOD's picture

A 6 yo paragliding?  his Mom.. paragliding?  Your SO doesn't have a lot of sense.  Clearly, MIL and SD should have been left on their own that day to do something fun and more their "speed".

I'm not saying you can't share your BD with a stepkid (my SD actually planned a party for me when she was 8..lol) .. but that activity seems really innappropriate.

If he did manage to have a special "adult only" dinner later.. then I wouldn't be so up in arms.. but just don't think that activity was good for everyone to be there.

Next time, you should clearly say.  "I want you to plan something special for my birthday.. just for the two of us.. plan it for a weekend when SD is with her mom.. even if it isn't on my actual birthday." 

The other stuff, I kind of get his point.  It doesn't sound like she is a particularly difficult kid, but she is still young and most kids have shorter attention spans and can be needy and out of sorts in odd environments.  Nothing wrong with saying..."Hey, SD is great and I enjoy having her around...but sometimes it's nice when we can do adult things.. just the two of us without having to worry about her."

Honestly, I think he needs a better plan in place for emergencies that aren't child friendly.

Doublehelix's picture

Yup, I agree...he's just so obsessed with the blending...that he neglects the relationship part. In his mind, we're already in a relationship so check that off the to-do list...and now like a mad artist, he's just blend blend blending all the time. 

Luckily, the few emergencies we've had, BM was able to take SD. But outside of that, his resources are limited as he has no local family and BM got custody of all their friends.

hereiam's picture

he's just so obsessed with the blending...that he neglects the relationship part.

Which verifies what I said earlier, he's not ready for a relationship or that isn't what he wants. He wants a family. He doesn't want to be a "single dad". That's different than wanting to be IN a relationship.