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ESMOD's picture

I know we touched on this issue on another blog.. but I actually didn't realize how pervasive the issue is with people trying to make their pets into service animals to avoid certain rules.

I am on a facebook group and someone posted that they were looking for a house to rent and that it needed to be pet friendly.

Someone literally posted this in a response.

"If you have trouble finding a home because you have pets, you can make them "service animals" and they can't deny you. You can make virtually any domesticated animal a service animal. I think you can print out a certificate online."

My eyes popped out of my head. So, the homeowner has no right to decide whether they want someone's poorly trained animal crapping in the house? There can be very legitimate reasons why someone doesn't want to rent to people with animals. The chance of damage to the home is much higher. It can even limit future ability to rent or sell..

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Stepped in what momma's picture

Yes you can pay on line to have your animal registered as a service animal but the landlord can require proof from a doctor that states that you need a service animal and why you need the service animal so this is how landlords get around tricky residents.

Peridwen's picture

That kind of person makes me see red and do ALL CAPS BOLD DIATRIBES on the internet and accusing debates in person. I try to hold it together, but Rage-Peri is not always pretty. That is exactly the kind of attitude that makes so many people blase about actual service animals and support animals who actually do provide a necessary function to their owners.

Stepped in what momma's picture

You can go on line and pay $75 bucks and have your dog registered as a service animal. It is that easy, google it.

Stepped in what momma's picture

I am a landlord, I own rentals and it is what I do for a living so it isn't as easy as you think it is because there is HUD and people that really need service animals so you have to tread lightly in the areas that pertain to ADA and discrimination.

Peridwen's picture

You can register your dog as a support animal, not service animal. There is a difference, especially in the legal definition.

ESMOD's picture

I think that their spouting off on facebook is illustrating that point that there ARE people out there who are abusing the "service animal" designation and in fact encouraging others to do the same. Just like the woman with the "service animal" in the airport that i saw that was in no way providing a service to her other than she wanted the dog with her. As it scrounged and ate stale french fries under the seat in the waiting area... and then piddled on the floor.

Shoot.. google online service dog certificate.. you can get one in "minutes" per the web ads.

The gentleman at your local walmart is waiting for a real trained service dog and those can't just be made with a piece of paper off the internet. Unfortunately, the people who make their dogs' "paper service animals" are hurting this guy's ability to have his dog/situation treated as a real need..

Too many abusers make it harder on the people who truly have a need and have a real trained animal.

Stepped in what momma's picture

I think maybe you are confusing an actual service animal with a regular old dog that has been registered on line as a service animal. A "real" service animal has to be trained like you are saying but you can register any animal with no training on line to be a service animal. It is very sad to see what people will do to break the rules.

AJanie's picture

I don't like that type of abuse of the system, so to speak.

I have a friend who registered her pit bull as a service dog to keep him in her condo. She has mentioned to me that I could do the same if ever I needed to move and the landlord would not allow my animals. It is not something I would do - I don't like that type of dishonesty.

It is hard, as a renter, to find anywhere that will take dogs. DH and I are fortunate that we found the perfect dog friendly apartment home (this adds to my anxiety during these tough financial times - because I know we need to be able to stay here until we buy, it would be basically a miracle to find a rental that took both dogs). I do wish there were more options for renters who own pets. That being said, I understand the risk of renting to someone with dogs - you simply don't know if the dog is a chewer who will inflict a ton of damage, and dander can linger and cause allergy problems for subsequent tenants, it is just overall a big liability for the landlord.

I think as pet owners we have to go into it understanding these facts of life instead of being dishonest and trying to skirt around the issue. Service dogs serve a legitimate purpose, they are trained, distinct and separate from a "regular" pet. I am even on the fence about registering service dogs for anxiety issues (I am not including PTSD issues, for instance an army veteran) ... I just think it is a slippery slope.

Stepped in what momma's picture

This is why most landlords have an aggressive breed policy, this keeps renters that try to register their pits as service animals from getting around the rule.

Ninji's picture

My brother went online and made his dog a "service" animal so he can take it with him to hotels.

Stepped in what momma's picture

Actually there is usually weight limit with hotels that lean to only allowing smaller dogs so this is how people get around the rules.

Ninji's picture

I think he just did it to see if he could. I love him but he's still pretty young and does weird shit.

ESMOD's picture

The places we have looked into, the fees aren't that small.

One required a 75 dollar non-refundable deposit and then an additional 25 dollars per animal per night.

For a one night stay? not worth it at all. We luckily have an SUV and the back area is fine for the dog to snooze in overnight (if the weather is decent).

ESMOD's picture

We are pretty lucky because our in laws and the YSD are both good for dog sitting. Our vet does boarding also and charges less than 20 dollars a day.

Back when I used to travel a bunch, I hired a pet service that would come out to your house a couple times a day to take care of the animals and it was cheaper than boarding too.

We take our dog with us on vacation whenever possible. One of the reasons we own a vacation home vs renting.

Monchichi's picture

It's s different in my country. You can only buy a service dog from a specific registered association. You cannot have them registered or train them yourself. They cost a substantial amount of money too.

Immaterial of whether you have a service dog or not, a landlord can and will decline your rental application. Dogs are not permitted in most of our hotels too.

Thumper's picture

Ahhh yes users and abusers, fakers, liars and scammers. Its what they do in their lives in various ways and service animals are not exempt.

True Service Animals play a necessary role is so many lives. The thing of it is a real service dog who graduated the lengthy school does not need a special vest.

Yes anyone can fake it and spend 20bucks for the cheap false identifiable crap. OR they can weasel their way out of hotel fees, rental deposits ect. Some folks do nothing but chase down letter after letter from doctors stupid enough to write a letter for them.

I hate liars and manipulators..........their gonna get caught.

Luckyone's picture

What bothers me is that I have kids with allergies. Why do I have to watch my daughter's face look like she got in a fight with Mike Tyson so that a lonely divorcee' can bring poopsie to the market?? Laws and regulations should be stricter on what kind of animals and why they Are in use.

notsurehowtodeal's picture

I was at dinner the other night when a couple came in with a Boxer who was wearing a service vest. I hate to admit it, but I always wonder if the dog is a legit service animal when the owner has no outward signs of a disability. However, it was quickly apparent this was a true service dog. He sat under the table next to his owner and never moved. He didn't even lay down.

(I have a friend who is blind and her dog behaves the same way. When she flies the dog squishes in at her feet and doesn't hardly move. In the car, she rides on the floor in the back seat. I offered to let the dog sit on the seat, and she said that she was trained to always sit on the floor.)

As the couple left, I commented on the dog's behavior and called him a "true" service animal. The owner laughed and shook his head and made a comment about "so called service animals." He volunteered that even though his wife didn't like to think about it, the dog would alert when he was going to have an event that could easily kill him. The dog would give them time to summon emergency help.

To try and compare this dog's ability to that of companion animal is ridiculous.

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

In case it hasn't said. I have been told by good sources only dogs can be real service animals. The kind that are tested and given the correct paper work. Which no you don't have to show but just kind of a fact. ALSO you have to be able to say what service the animal provides. Yes this pisses me off. Partner and I have talked about him training a new dog for himself. He wants to cross train it to be an emotional support animal for me. We have similar issues but very different causes. His is ADA recignized. An emotional support animal is NOT covered or treated the same as a service animal. If people don't stop pulling this crap they will change the laws which will only make it harder for people who really need them to have them. A service animal is considered a medical piece of equipment that can literally save someone's life. Your little poochy you don't want to pay for can't compare.

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

They tend to allow emotional support animals which can be anything though they do not legally have to. I thought mini ponies could to but I wasn't fully sure. I think they would typically be trained to help with mobility.