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Managing expectations of your husband

exhausted2's picture

This site has really been refreshing. I've been feeling bad about myself for years that I've never liked my stepson. I've been happily married for 13 years and when we first started dating, my step son was one. I never wanted kids, so I was never more than peripherally involved with him. As the years progressed, SS and I have had an uneasy truce - we stay clear of each other. My husband and I have a son of our own who is currently 9. My SS is now on the verge of 19 and has just moved in with us. Completely upended our household but we're really trying to make room for him. Every time he has disrupted our life, we just try and be as neutral as possible. 3 years ago was our last vacation - we went to Belize. I saved for a year to do this. At the very last minute, my husband insisted that he come. So he did and I was completely resentful - it set us back financially for 3 months. Then the 3 of us took a long weekend in DC, and my husband woke up screaming in his sleep that I just don't get it and he can't do this to his son any more. When I asked him about it, he had no recollection. Calling Dr. Freud...When my SS moved in about 6 months ago, my husband took out a loan to buy him a used car. SS never thanked us. We're making him pay back half. Now comes my birthday and I've planned a trip for the 3 of us to Paris. My husband is insisting that SS come or else my husband won't go. I always feel my boundaries are completely trampled over , but because my husband is such a great guy, I roll over...but I'm not sure I can do it again. Paris has been my dream my whole life (well Paris and Iceland). I have to invite and for the bill for someone who doesn't make eye contact with me? So the 3 of us never get to go on vacation? It always has to be the four of us? He has lived with us for 6 months and he doesn't really talk with us, hang out with us - unless we're doing something fun. My husband doesn't seem to understand that we're never going to be a whole family - and I think primarily because his SS doesn't really know at this age how to do that. He's so used to getting his own way all the time, that he only seems to have the capacity to look out for himself. My husband wants to lead by example but I feel if you're too good , you're no good. And , if I don't invite him to Paris, I know the SS will cause all kinds of hell in my household. I just feel so stuck and ultimately sad....but hopeful that I'm not such a bad person. Any insight as to how to manage your husband's expectations that you're never going to like his kid?

stepkate's picture

Why can't your husband pay for him? My BF is a great guy too, but I don't plan on ever footing the bill for his daughter.

burnet's picture

Will Paris be a once in a lifetime trip? Have you already paid for the tickets? If not, go to some other destination, and save Paris
for when the SS has moved out.

blondie66's picture

I can relate. In my situation it's MINE (100% time) and HIS (50%) only (no OURS, I wanted to, but got there too old Sad )
Anyway - my DH only plans day, weekend and vacation trips with the mandatory clause - have to include his kids. It can never ever ever be without them. Mind you, they (skids) get to go places with BM and that's OK. He doesn't have a problem with that (imagine that). I told him that his stance is hurtful for my kids (they are not babies, they figured it out and commented on it to my mom) and very hurtful for me. Can you make it more obvious that we are second-rated in your life? Hmm. He gets very defensive and refuses to see how that would hurt us in any way.
And I'm not talking big vacations, I'm talking a day trip to the beach or something.
Just recently, the skids were over at our house unexpectedly (another one of many BM dumps) and he immediately started - hey, it's summertime, we're both off, let's do something, let's go somewhere.
It hurt me so much that I went to the bathroom and cried. I didn't tell him anything (what's the use - he'll just get defensive again) but I flatly refused to make any plans and stayed home. Stupid, I know, but I just couldn't get over it (he knew it was summer and that we were going to be off weeks before and never attempted to make any plans at all).
In your case - I just don't see why you would drag a 19-yr old everywhere you go?! You would think he wouldn't want to go with you any more. Especially if he doesn't really act like a family.

aggravated1's picture

I am sorry for your situation, Blondie. I have been there. I started taking vacations with my kids without DH, and he didn't like that, but tough crap. He came around real quick when he was sitting home alone while we were out having a good time. Just because HE won't do anything without his kids, doesn't mean you have to. I haven't taken SK's on vacation in 3 years, partly for this but mostly because they are not going to just show up for the fun times and then treat their dad like crap the other 51 weeks of the year.

DaizyDuke's picture

"they are not going to just show up for the fun times and then treat their dad like crap the other 51 weeks of the year."

You hit the nail on the head! I feel the same way! for the most part.. my SKids only come around when BM needs a sitter or there is something in it for them. I know they love their dad (in their own way) but for them it's more about what they can get and it is so sad and frustrating because what does hubby do?? Just keep playing the game.. ugh!

aggravated1's picture

Your SS is an adult. You shouldn't be paying anything for him. is he paying you rent? Tell your husband if you are in the habit of taking grown adults who should be paying their way on free vacations, then you have this friend on Steptalk that has always wanted to see Paris and you would like to take her too }:)

lifeisshort's picture

Didn't you say that you never liked your SS? Do you not have any responsibility for the relationship, or lack of one?

You said in your post that you "never wanted kids, so I was never more than peripherally involved with him," that you "stay clear of each other," and then in the same breath, you accuse the teenager of being "someone who doesn't make eye contact with me"? Excuse me, aren't you also responsible for how that turned out, since you weren't really even involved with his life or upbringing? It takes two to make a relationship and you opted out of that one. Why on earth do you think your DH's kid would want to show you any respect or communicate with you? You never showed any interest in doing the same! Since the child was ONE YEAR OLD you have ignored him and now, you're griping because your DH, who obviously made a bad choice in staying with you (the subconscious guilt of it all coming through in his dreams), wants his kid - whom he loves, even if you do not - to share in activities like traveling with HIS family... sure, maybe the 19 year old could help with his traveling expenses, but I don't know any 19 year old who makes enough money to completely foot their part of a trip to Paris. Maybe BD could offer to cover his airfare and accommodations if his son can cover his food and incidentals... but that would be between the two of them, since you couldn't care less about the boy.

You're way beyond selfish. You chose to stay with a man who had a child when you yourself did not want a child in your life, so you made it the way you wanted it by alienating your DH's child from your new marriage and family. Your DH did his child a disservice. But sometimes men will sacrifice their children's physical and emotional welfare for a woman. It's been known to happen...

All this is going to come back to haunt you one day.

stealth2's picture

Agree, 100%. Both you and kiddo share the blame for the lack of mutual respect.

steptwins's picture

Agree w/Lifeisshort. Man the kid is only 18 and you think he should have money saved for Paris? I don't think you can invite your birthchild & not him -- that's flat out mean. And you've been to Belize recently?
I hope the kid decides to start college & your DH pays for it and if you complain about the money buy you a one-way ticket to Paris.... Yeah, that sounds mean but so does your post and I keep visualizing this little one year boy w/no mother to nurture him.

zuzieq611's picture

"with no mother to nurture him" Come on, that's a little dramatic and below the belt....the kid has a BM. I agree that perhaps she should rethink her relationship with her SS, and figure out why she feels so resentful of him. You can't make up for the past, but you can create a future.

oneoffour's picture

I agree with lifeisshort.

If you did not intend being part of this boy's life for 18 yrs you cannot expect him to be a adjusted functioning addition to your home do you? I mean you avoided him at all costs and expect him to be grown up enough to behave like you want him to?

You say you didn't want kids yet you married a man who has kids. Then you had a child of your own. Now are you leaving YOUR son behind? Didn't think so. Because he is part of your little family. Well when you marry a person with existing children they are also part of your family whether you like it or not. Unless the kids are totally alienated from your spouse they ARE part of your family.

You have known this boy for 18 yrs. Whether you like it or not your son and your s/son share the same DNA. They have the same father. So maybe one day your son needs a kidney and the only match is his 1/2 brother. Will you like the boy then? Will you expect him to make a sacrifice for YOUR son just because?

I could understand it if you hadn't ever had your own child. However you did. Say you die and your DH remarries. Would you like a future SM to treat your son the way you are treating your s/son? It happens.

You married this kid when you married his father. And your DH is internalising all your distaste for his own child and it is coming out in his dreams.

DaizyDuke's picture

I guess I'm wondering how long SS did NOT live with you as you say he recently moved in.... and while the tone of your post does sound a little crass I think there is way more to this story than we are seeing here. It is quite apparent to me that this child did not grow up in your home and actually sounds like he did not spend much time at all in your home. Especially since you say that he "hardly talks to us" meaning your husband too which leads me to believe he does not have a great relationship with his father. I think the picture that is being painted of you living in your home with a SS that you have resented for 18 years is off the mark. I am guessing that you didn't see or hear from SS much unless he wanted something or there was something in it for him. Maybe I'm wrong, but at any rate.. I hope you get it worked out so that you can have an enjoyable time in Paris

Rags's picture

Time to call DHs bluff. You and your son go to Paris without DH and SS. Have fun and take lots of pictures so DH will see what he missed.

Or, play the BULLSHIT card and bare DHs ass on how he is choosing his adult child over his 9yo. If SS wants to go he can pay for his own ticket.

SS has already been 9 and should not be able to infringe on your 9yo being 9.

Your DH needs absolute clarity on this issue. If he does not gain clarity he may loose his family.

Best regards

Gia's picture

I agree with other posters, especially lifeisshort. I would understand if you wanted to go on a vacation with just your husband and yourself, and he wanted to bring his son, but if you bring your son along, and if his son lives with you guys there is no way you can say "no" to it.

Of course a 19 year old would not want to hang with his parents (and/or stepparents) unless is some sort of fun activity, that's how teenagers are.

I went to France when I was 18, my sisters were 22 and 25 with my parents, it was amazing. And if my dad expected me to pay anything with my nonexistent income, I would have laughed....