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Bekkah's picture

Hi All!

Thank you all for making this a great place to read for the last few weeks, but after this week, I have decided that I need the support of actually posting. 

I am dating a full time, single dad of three. SD15, SD7, and SS4.  It is a lot to jump into. I am 31 y/o, divorcee who lives in MI. I have no biological kids. My BF and the kids live in Seattle. I have reorganized my whole life to spend much of the summer out here. 

BM is not consistently in the picture. She has mental health issues and has very limited supervised visitation (no more than 6 hours per week). She does not pay CS. She buys the kids toys and candy when she comes to visit. She also seems to intentionally run up excessive legal fees complaining about which 6 hours a week she sees the kids. 

This summer, I Have become very involved with the kids. BF was planning on relying on his 15y/o doing most of the daytime childcare this summer and I offered to come out and help. Needless to say, he took me up on it. Since the kids got out of school, I have been out here 7 weeks. I make their breakfast, lunch and snacks. I bought their school clothes and supplies because I wanted to (and because BF is paying an arm and a leg in legal bills). I read them bed time stories, take them to the park, and generally try to be an involved adult when I am out here. 

But recently, I am starting to feel resentful. The younger kids are always super excited to see their mom even though she is often late/no shows for visitation, she is a poor role model, and even when she is out to visit she is running her own agenda (like taking the kids to Target so she can shop, taking the kids to the mall so she can get her girlfriends hair cut, etc)...  On the other hand, they seem uninterested to see me unless I can do something for them. I do enforce basic manners, but actual gratitude seems to be missing. 

Last night, an old babysitter came by to visit. All three kids were over the moon excited to see her. Then today all I heard was "Babysitter is *so* awesome" and everything she does that is great. On top of that today was just a rough behavior day. SD15 wanted to spend time with her boyfriend. SD7 wanted to hang out with SD15 so they squabbled. Once SD7 was "exiled", SS4 wanted to hang out with SD7, but SD wanted to be left alone so they squabbled. SS4 was "sooo bored" and "there is nothing to do" in a house with new bikes, Xbox, computer games, and tons of toys! On top of that, it is the last week of summer vacation and I am pretty sure the kids are going through a growth spurt!

Maybe this is my immaturity, but what about me?!? I get that I am dealing with kids who are by nature pretty self centered creatures. I know I signed on to be 5th in line for my BF (Kids, job, then me).  I am okay with that. But it seems like I am worse than hired help. Their mom and dad get the snuggles and the "I love you"'s. The babysitter gets all sorts of hugs and excitement. But me? Well, it is still requiring reminders to "say goodnight to Bekkah" before the kids go to bed and both of us (my BF and me) reminding them to use please and thank you's with me. 

Any words of encouragement would be hugely helpful!

Thanks and can't wait to get to know y'all,
Bekkah

Bekkah's picture

Old Dart, thank you so much for that. I am up at 330am holding the hair back of one vomiting, SD7, and holding the bucket for SS4. In between vomiting, they are asking for their mom and dad. Having to explain why they are stuck with me... Yeah. Hearing good job is really appreciated! (I work in health care so vomit doesn't bother me. While my better half vomits every time the kids vomit and needs to be to work in 3 hours! And well, Mom... I will do anything for these kids but supervising a visit with their mom to watch them vomit... Well, that just reminds me that this situation *could* be worse!)

SMof2Girls's picture

LOL my DH is the same way .. SD6 got a stomach bug and vomited all over the bathroom .. poor DH about tossed his cookies just watching her vomit

Orange County Ca's picture

First kids are unappreciative and self centered. Bio parents can't expect to be appreciated. When the children mature they'll appreciate the time spent but don't expect any more than and "I remember and thanks" type statement.

Raising kids is a thankless task and being a step parent is more than thankless. You can become the lightning rod for anything negative. You've probably missed a lot of that because they understand the reason mother is not around.

The best words of encouragement I can give you is forget about being a step parent. Find a local (to you) fellow without kids. You're of a age where many men who have devoted themselves to careers so far are ready to settle down. You won't find any satisfaction raising someone elses kids and remember this:

Bio-mothers die or otherwise become unable to raise their kids. If you married this guy you could find yourself spending your life doing what you did this summer. No girl it just isn't worth it. Now that your obligations are over tell your friend it was eye-opening and you're glad you were able to help but its just "not me" and walk up to the boarding gate and go home.

If you fail to heed this advise you will curse yourself for decades to come.

z3girl's picture

I was going to write that if you date a man with kids, it's best to find one that is non-custodial with a teenager or older. That's my situation, except DH is the problem more so than SD. There is drama, of course, but it's not everyday.

On the other hand, there are PLENTY of stories here where the adult skids are horrible (worse than my SD) so maybe that's not so good advice!!!

stormabruin's picture

I can relate to what you're experiencing. When I met my DH I was 25. He had SS7 (at the time) & SD4 (at the time). BM was non-existent. About 3 months after she realized I was around, she started halfway utilizing her EOW visitation. Sometimes she would show. Other times the kids would be packed up & would stand at the door or watching out the window for hours, just waiting.

It was heartbreaking to see how much they wanted & how excited they were, waiting for her & her not care enough to be there.

They needed a stable mother-figure in their lives. Me, not having children of my own, fed off of being that for them as they also filled a void in my life. I stepped in. I did daycare pick-up/drop-off when DH couldn't. I fed them. I did homework with them until DH got home from work. If I saw clothes they would like while I was out shopping, I bought them. I was a pseudo-mom.

SD & I got along great, but it was clear she wanted her mom. SS...he was very consistent with the "You're not my mom!". He was angry with her for leaving them, but he was also very protective & needy for her. Needless to say, he was hard to figure out. I struggled to win his acceptance, & honestly, it has only really come in the last couple of years.

I'm now 37. SD will turn 16 next month & SS turned 19 last month. We've encountered battle after battle in court with BM. She's still the preferred parent (largely in part to her bitter alienation practices). She's the one who's been able to provide (via her stepdad's money) the fun stuff...the cool clothes, the summer beach trips, the amusement parks, the skating parties, etc. We have been the logical responsible parents who pay child support, try to instill work ethic, teach responsibility & independence, & putting needs before wants...living within OUR means.

It hurts to watch them enjoy her. It hurts to know that, having given them all I could have to offer as a mother, the fact that I love them enough to give them my heart will never measure up to the material things she buys for them with other peoples money.

I've seen them hurt when their mother couldn't be bothered with them, & I've felt the hurt when they couldn't be bothered with me. Of course, I'll suck it up before I'd wish it on them again.

Like Lo said, stepparenting truly is a thankless job. A lot of people are stepparents to kids they don't love...or even like. If that were the case with me, I couldn't do it.

You will likely get replies telling you to run & don't look back. You will likely get replies telling you you're doing too much & let your BF take care of things.

IMO, you are doing what the kids need you to do. It is thankless, but whether they see it or not, they have worlds more in you...someone who owes them nothing, than they have in their own mother...who owes them everything you're giving.

I believe some people are cut out for steplife, & some are not.

I can tell you that even with the years in & out of court & the hurt & rejection from these kids I'd still do anything for, if I had it to do again, I'd still be where I am today.

If you can't do it without expecting thanks or recognition, don't do it. The resentment will build, you'll get tired & spend life angry.

Can I ask how long you've been in this relationship?

Bekkah's picture

We have been friends for 5+ years but only dating since March. Thank you for the advice. I don't think I need accolades, but I think we can all agree some days are tougher than others and this week has been tough!

stormabruin's picture

I think anyone here can agree that some days are tougher than others. Smile

If this is a relationship you are truly invested in & want to stick it out, I feel certain we'll be reading more from you. I think you'll find a lot of people here, who will understand where you're coming from, who can sympathize what you're facing & who will have plenty of good advice to offer.

stormabruin's picture

Smile

twiglet88's picture

love this

lucky7's picture

I agree with a lot that has been posted here. However, I must say give it a little time. Being flung into motherhood is not easy! I can't imagine going from living alone with no kids to full time mom of 3! I commend you for doing what you are doing for the kids. Obviously, they will never have a "normal" life with BM so the influence you can offer is priceless. I say when you go back home and tings are quiet, see how you feel. You will either feel relief or feel like something is missing. I have been a SM for 5 years now and there have been many times I wanted to throw in the towel, feeling unappreciated. But after 5 years, I can say I have a great relationship with my skids. Hang in there... especially if you really love this man. good luck!

Bekkah's picture

I do love this man. And it is still new. Thank you for the reassurance!

SanAntonioSoccerMom's picture

No matter how bad BM is, no matter what a piece of crap she is, she is still their mother and they will crave attention from her and a relationship with her. Especially the 7 and 4 year old. That is to be expected. They LOVE their mother and want to see he-regardless of what kind of person she is. You need to understand that and learn to not let it bother you.

And secondly, you really don't know what the kids say about you to other people when you are not around. My husband is the custodial parent with an absentee, loser, addict ex wife. Once when she finally saw the kids in their early teens, my husband told me that the boys spent a good 20 minutes telling her how I run the house, what rules I have, and how they aren't allowed to do this or that. My husband said BM looked like she wanted to crawl into a hole LOL.

Bekkah's picture

Their mother has not raised them. Supervised visitation. That is not something a court does lightly.

The babysitter, has not raised them; she worked for the family for about a month.

Their father, I completely agree with you! He deserves lots of hugs and thank you's!

But, Echo, did you miss the subject line? I'm admitting I'm new to this and asking for encouragement. The fact that I am still up with vomiting kids should be a sign that I'm in this for the long haul.

Bekkah's picture

It means I have begun applying for jobs out here, have made arrangements with my current job to work ten 16 hour shifts a month back to back so that I can spend the remainder of the month out here, my lease is up September 1 and my belongings are packed up (I will stay in a weekly hotel in MI or with my mother when I go back for work), and my family supports what I am hoping to do. So yes, I am in it for the long haul.

I am up with his vomiting kids because he was up with his kids and began vomiting himself in response to their vomiting. So I was "holding his hair back" while he tried to hold SD7's hair back and SS4's head over a bucket. I offered to stay with the kids as vomiting doesn't bother me - and one of us needs a good nights sleep.

I hope I am reading into this, but it sounds like you are either very unhappy with your life, have allowed yourself to be walked on by someone, or have a bad step parent/child situation. I will keep you in my prayers that you can find happiness and encouragement!

Bekkah's picture

Echo, if you feel you have the whole story from a single message then you are sorely mistaken.

I don't expect sunshine and rainbows, but a "Keep Up the Good Fight" or a "Here are some tips" or "It sounds like you are in over your head, you might want to talk with a friend/counselor to determine if this is truly what is best for you in the long run" those things would be helpful. Just being Debbie Downer, not so helpful.

StickAFork's picture

Echo speaks the truth.

I read that you were up with puking little kids because dad had to work in 3 hours? HE WAS HOME?!?

It would be a cold, freeze dried day in hell before I'm handling my new BF's puking kids while he sleeps.
This man is PLAYING you.

And Echo is right...you'd be nutty to consider giving up your entire life to move into his.

You'll be on here griping about how you're nothing but a maid, housecleaner, and babysitter in NO time.

Honey, re-think this. PLEASE.

luchay's picture

Oh shit. this OP is me 7 months ago.

all I can say now is RUN FOR THE FREAKING HILLS NOW WHILE YOU STILL CAN.

Smile

But good job and all that....

SMof2Girls's picture

"I'm admitting I'm new to this and asking for encouragement"

You would be wise to realize these women have considerable experience in the trenchs of step-motherhood. Sometimes the best "encouragement" is the truth. It's harsh, but it's real. Because what happens when you're 5 years in with a bio or two of your own and you feel completely stuck, smothered, and used?

No "you're doing a good job as a stepmom" from ANYONE is gonna make you feel better at that point.

That being said, I'm relatively new to my step-situation too. I have two skids and no bios of my own. It's a challenge and a struggle sometimes, but my skids are young, so I haven't dealt with a lot of the attitude and behavior problems that many people here have.

Just know that while people can be harsh, they are that way with your best interest at heart; and not to simply be cruel.

Bekkah's picture

We met when I lived in Seattle. We have stayed in touch over the last 5 years doing free lance work for the same company.

I agree that the fact my better half stayed with his ex as long as he did is a warning sign. We have began counseling before we began dating to make sure we were both coming into this as healthy as possible and with the other fully aware of the situation of the baggage we each are bringing to the situation.

I do not have a desire to be a "replacement mother", but I would like some appreciation. When I see my patients, I understand it is my job and that they are feeling crummy, but still hearing a thank you or feeling appreciated is always nice!

ThatGirl's picture

^This

Disneyfan's picture

OP, I really hope you listen to Echo and StepAside.

You are just there for the summer. You're not their SM, just dad's long distance GF. They may be thinking that as soon as you leave, things can go back to normal~ just them and their dad.

Yeah, they should say please, thank you, good night...but they will not treat you or have the same feelings for you that they have for their mother.

Carah's picture

Ok that was a little harsh. Maybe you had preconceived notions on how the summer would be. Usually when that happens the situation never lives up to your expectations. I know I did when I met bf and sd4 I came in full force. It takes time to build those relationships. Especially with an absentee bm you throw yourself into the daily mothering role and I think it's usually because we feel like we are filling a void for the kids. We can never fill the void of bm no matter how terrible they are. So many times I imagined telling sd your mother isn't as great ad you think she is, but I would never do it, would love to but wouldn't and it does hurt when you are pushed aside and ignored because bm decides to be semi maternal. I agree with the poster who said see how you feel when you get home. Try not to steamroll into their lives and your roll as step mom. Take it easy and see how things progress. Maybe it will work maybe it won't but you need to give it some time.

Bekkah's picture

I am headed home in a week. For at least the next few months will be in MI for 8-10 days then in Seattle for the rest of the month. So the status quo we have developed this summer will continue at least through Thanksgiving. I am looking for a job and everything out here - relocation is something both my boyfriend and I want, but I need to have a job here before I give up a great one in MI.

Let me say again, I do not begrudge the kids loving and appreciating their mom, their dad, their babysitters, or anyone else in their life. But sometimes it is hard to not think, "What about me? Can't I get some of that love or appreciation too?"

StickAFork's picture

AHHHHHHH!!

Red flags, red flags, RED FLAGS!!!

You've been dating FIVE MONTHS and you're looking to re-work your entire LIFE for him??
WTF?

Also, the fact that BM is SO mentally messed up and he not only stayed with her but continued to crank out babies with her makes me question HIS mental health, too.

Bekkah's picture

Thanks Carah!

Bekkah's picture

Yes. This is relatively common in the Emergency Department/Trauma world.

Bekkah's picture

Given that both he and I have been divorced we see no reason to get married. In theory it is supposed to be a "for better or worse until death do you part" but the reality is that clearly isn't the standard it once was. We also both have homosexuals in pur family and until they can legally marry (and have their marriages recognized), we see no reason to allow the government to say our relationship is more "serious" or "valuable" than theirs! We have made each other POAs, done wills leaving things to each other (and his kids as well), and completed durable power of attorney for medical things . We see nothing that marriage gets you that can't be gained by other means.

And Seattle isn't away from my friends, I used to live out here for several years. I only lived in MI for 18 months. I will be without my immediate family, but I have extended family out here. These are all people who have been there for me before and I have no reason to believe that they won't be there again if need be.

Thank you for your concern and bringing up concerns that you have for my well being.

Peaches1973's picture

Your stance on marriage is just like mine and my BF.We have gotten engaged but since we are both divorced and have 'been there,done that' we feel no need to rush on it.It is just a piece of paper after all,and a commitment can be made without one.
Your support of gay marriage is awesome!I feel the same.

The feelings of being unappreciated and the last man on the totem pole are perfectly normal when youre in a SM situation.Hopefuly it improves or at least gets a bit easier to deal with but it really just comes with the territory.

Just make sure that you have your own thang goin on as well.Make sure you get some 'me' time and time with your girls because above all you will need to maintain your sense of self.

You sound like you pretty much have it together and know what you want,it helps that you are profesionaly successful and wont feel like you are dependent on your BF and your relationship.

I wish the two of you every happiness.Welcome! Smile

Stepmom3 Bio1's picture

Bekkah,
I'm sorry to say this, but if you feel this way after spending a summer with your BF's kids, you will only feel worse after becoming their SM. I've been a SM for 10 yrs. I've told myself a zillion times it will get better..when the SKIDS get older, when BM grows up, when DH get's a set of balls, etc. The reality is, is doesn't get better it stays the same. You will feel used, abused, unappreciated and taken advantage of. You will always come last. You will feel like an outsider in your own home and sometimes even in your own marriage. You will fight with your SO over the BM and SKIDS. I love my SKIDS, and I want for them the same things I want for my DH's and my son. I have never had a fight with SKIDS or BM. Overall, I think my experiences as a SM have been pretty good compared to some of the stories I've read on this site, but I still feel used, abused, unappreciated and taken advantage.
Honestly, if I were you, I would run the other way. My DH and I talked about potential issues regarding the SKIDS and BM before we married. Back then, we were on the same page, or so I thought. After we married, and his guilt set in, all the things we discussed were tossed out the window. I do love my DH dearly, but I am angry and resentful.
If you don't want to live a life feeling all these things, trust me, move on.

Bekkah's picture

Do you believe these feelings are inevitable? That there is no communication, therapy, or other steps that one can take to avoid these pitfalls?

Stepmom3 Bio1's picture

Well, I used to be optimistic...thinking that communication, therapy, and other steps you suggested might help. But honestly, I'm not so optimistic anymore. People are who they are, you can't change them. In my situation, after 10 yrs, nobody involved in my situation is going to change. As a stepparent with a BM involved, you have little influence in what goes on. I have no control over what BM does or says. My DH may listen to my opinions or feelings, but in the end he is their father and can do whatever he wants...even if it goes against everything I believe in. So, as a SM, you essentially have no control over BM or DH, and therefore, have no control over the SKIDS. You are pretty much along for the ride regardless if all of their decisions/actions affect your home, your lifestyle, your financial stability, your sanity, etc. So yes, to answer your questions, I do think those feelings are inevitable.

Bekkah's picture

Do you see the Trusts and the Wills and POA's as me being a doormat? Isn't it possible that they are set up to protect each of us? (And in case it matters, it is me that suggested these legal documents... I want my butt covered in case there is an emergency. When I suggested it, he realized that it is probably a better idea for me to be making the medical/financial decisions for him than the his ex/BM - as he hadn't updated it in 10 years.)

dontcallmestepmom's picture

Excellent words and advice.

Bekkah, please listen to the people on here. They are telling you like it is. There is another woman on here (at least one whose stories are making me cringe) who is making the same mistake you are making (some similarities in your situations), and I fear the both of you are going to stay in these relationships and become miserable and resentful.

If you DO decide to move/keep this relationship going, I suggest you have no expectations when it comes to the kids. They may NEVER like you, as harsh as that sounds. Yes, they should respect you, but a lot of that is going to depend on your boyfriend.

I truly hope your boyfriend is on the same page as you when it comes to how these children are raised. If not, you are in for a sad road. And you should NOT be content to be 5th in line. Sad

My DH has young adults. They are HORRIBLE. I love my DH, but for awhile, he allowed them to control him. He finally woke up, and that is why our relationship works. I almost ran. His kids continue to get worse, and I do not see them changing. BM is completely crazy, but the kids think she is wonderful. It will never change.

Please be careful.

RedWingsFan's picture

^^^This!!!^^^

I can only say I've been there, done that. It doesn't get any better and unfortunately, what you're going through now will likely just get worse. You will do what you think is right for you and I think everyone here will agree that it'll be moving West and settling for a life that you may end up thinking differently about later on.

While some of the responses you've received may appear harsh or uncaring, they are actually quite the opposite. If no one cared what you did, no one would bother responding at all. But, as crazy as it may sound, I think every single person that posts here cares about the others in some way, shape or form.

I wish you the best. Whether you go to Washington or stay in Michigan (I was born and raised in Detroit, baby! My entire family is still in MI, along with my daughter). we'll all still be here for ya!

Good luck. And if you have a good job in Michigan right now, consider yourself extremely lucky!!!!!!!

~Mel

StickAFork's picture

^^^So right on.

Man, this dude found himself a SUCKA.
Op, what does your family/friends think about all this?

Bekkah's picture

My family thinks this is great. I am happy. I have a guy who loves and respects me. My mom gets to play "grandma" without doing any of the hard work.

My friends are happy for me. I have a new found love for my job that they see. They see the moments of frustration like you have all seen, but they also see how excited I get "designing" tutu style skirts for SD7 or discussing movies with SD15 or doing science experiments with SS4. They get worried about us moving fast, but most of my friends have known each of us for 7-10+ years. They say this is the happiest they have seen either of us in a long time.

anafiodorova's picture

Bekkah, you remind me so much of me - 30 years old,intelligent, having it all going on for me professionally, ready to be there for him , support him, handle and do it all with all the love I have in my heart.How could anyone not like my big heart and warm smile? After a Thanksgiving and Christmas at his mother`s I found this web site and posted.I had tons of people on here telling me to run and I did not. Dear Bekkah, please turn the other way and stay at your lovely job in MI, enjoy life and nature and do not settle for a life of resentment , misery and heartbreak. Do not abandon yourself!Hope I do not see you here in 2 - 3 years saying you are leaving.
Unfortunately, we were also on the same page. I thought we had an agreement I said to him teary eyed and he said the same to me teary eyed. People change and I do not want to see you emotionally destroyed, manipulated and used. I love him dearly with all my heart and soul but he told me that nothing will change and I know that it will not... Actually 10 months later I have a proof of that. All you can do is control you and your choices. With each choice we make ourselves responsible and accountable for our actions. Choose wisely Bekkah.Do not abandon yourself! Love and light your way

Unfreakingreal's picture

It will NEVER be over. I have been with DH for 12 years, married 3. SS19 lives with us and while EVERYONE who knows our situation is FULLY aware of the role I have played in SS life, I don't think SS really appreciates any of it. Maybe, when he's a dad he will, but for now, I am simply the nagging, too involved, nosey, harassing, way too strict SM that needs to get a life.
Same goes for SD12. If I were you, and I am not, so please just take my advice for what it is, MY opinion, I'd find a nice guy with NO baggage in YOUR town so you don't have to deal with all this stuff you're dealing with. It will get harder and harder and the resentment will get bigger and bigger.

Bekkah's picture

Thank you. I appreciate your advice. I respect your experiences and really appreciate that you frame your rugged toons that way in a helpful and constructive manner!

Bekkah's picture

Thank you. Please know that I respect their experiences and advice, but their advice by an large is "Run!" and when I ask why they explain that it only gets worse, but no one can tell me why "worse" is the only option.

Yours comes with actionable advice "let the kids come to you" and "reconsider your expectations" and that I can totally do. Thank you do much for this. I don't expect to hear that it will be easy, but any tips to help me along my way are appreciated!

seesaw208's picture

I wish I had listened 12yrs later working my butt off for 3 skids now they are grown and they hate me and I am the cause of all of there problems and they want me gone. They want there father to themselves. If I had it to do all over again I would have never married him. My life has been horrible.

paul_in_utah's picture

Being a step-parent is tough. I don't go so far as Dart and Orange County, who say to "run for the hills," but I do think you need to disengage. It helped preserve both my sanity and marriage. I am nothing to SD17 and SS22, and they are nothing to me (other than SD17 being a potential source of legal liability until she is out of high school, but that is another story).

amber3902's picture

"Please know that I respect their experiences and advice, but their advice by an large is "Run!" and when I ask why they explain that it only gets worse, but no one can tell me why "worse" is the only option."

Have you read ANY of the posts on here? All you have to do is read a few posts to understand why things will only get worse, not better.

People are speaking from experience.