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Is this "normal?" What kinds of things can you expect from a 4 year old?

smomof2's picture

When my niece was 4, she could dress herself with minimal supervision, she can play by herself for a few minutes,she picks up her toys, temper tantrums were almost nonexistent.

Now ss4 is how can I put this nicely...lazy and a spoiled brat!
You can't leave him alone for a minute, when I'm home alone with them and go the bathroom, he follows me in there or stands at the door knocking till I come out, he absolutely can't(or won't) play by himself, when the ssons are over(we have them 50%), SO and I can't hold a conversation until after they go to bed because ss4 is always "daddy, daddy, daddy" or "sm, sm, sm" the boy wants attention ALL the time! He throws tantrums at the drop of hat, wants either me or SO to pick him up all the time! He baby talks, spreads his toys all over the room and won't pick them up when ask. Most of the time he won't respond when you call his name (no he's not deaf, SO had his hearing testing in December).

I feel like he's so immature for a 4 year old! BM and SO didn't start potty training him until after his 3rd birthday and it took 10 months for him to finally be potty trained and now he won't pee in his undewear but he poops in it all the time. Bedtimes are a nightmare because he won't sleep unless you lay down with him and it takes on average 45 minutes for him to fall asleep.

ss3 on the other hand, can play by himself, he's not constantly interupting adult conversations, picks up the toys/books when you ask him to.

I've pointed out to SO how needy and immature SS4 is compared to his younger brother, and SO's response is always "SS4 had a hard life! BM breastfed him until the day ss3 was born and then just yanked him off the boobs, BM stopped showing affection to ss4 once ss3 was born..." The ironic thing is, whenever ss4 is held accountable for his actions at our house, he cries and says he wants to go to BM. I feel like SO is contributing to ss4 acting like a brat by feeling sorry for him. He lets him get away with things because he feels sorry for him for "having to live in two different houses" Even MIL told SO that ss4 needs to be treated more age appropriate and not like a baby. SO seem to expect more from ss3 than ss4. Somtimes ss3 would get into trouble for the excact same behavior ss4 got away with! I've called SO off on his tendency to look the other way when ss4 misbehaves but punishes ss3 when he's only copying ss4's behavior.

I adore both my ssons, they're not too bad but to be honest, ss4's behavior is really starting to annoyed me to the point that I make plans with friends or volunteer to work on the weekends we have them. In public I physically distance myself from SO and ss4 whenever ss4 acts like a brat or a lunitic.

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imjustthemaid's picture

Well my BD is 3 and she will be 4 on Tuesday. She definitely plays by herself, cleans up her toys (not always happily) and has been potty trained since her 3rd birthday.

If I allow her to interrupt our conversations, she will. We put a stop to it because its so freakin annoying and she now says excuse me. But we both have to discipline her or she won't listen to either of us.

If BD3 takes a nap during the day or even falls asleep for 5 minutes, she will be awake until midnight. If not then she falls asleep within minutes.

She never asks to be held, she is heavy and I refuse to do it!!

The problemm is everyone is feeling bad for him so he gets away with murder. There needs to be consistency and its hard when a kid that age is going back and forth between homes. But you can't feel bad for him. He will know it and use it to his advantage. Kids are very sneaky and although he is only 4 he will catch on quick.

DH tends to spoil BD3. I don't. I notice when he comes home from work she is over in the corner whispering with him. She knows she gets what she wants from him. I tell him all the time if she was not my child I would not like this crap at all!!!

But she rarely has tantrums and if she does its when she is way overtired.

This whole feeling sorry for the kid creates a monster. Trust me, I have SD15 to prove it. Everyone always babied her and felt so bad for her and now she is a rotten brat!!

smomof2's picture

You're right, maybe I'm inviting trouble by comparing them. Children grow and mature at their own pace.
I guess my question/concern is, of ss4's behaviors what is a typical four year old behavior that will pass with time and which of his behaviors should be nip in the bud. For example ss3 throws tantrum too and cries for no apparent reason but I attribute that to "terrible twos", things that will go away as he gets older and if he ignore it and not feed into it.

bi's picture

agreed. bs4 is developmentally delayed. his teacher told me that label disappears at age 8 because all kids are caught up by then. fdh's sm liked to talked about bs and me behind my back, basically claiming that i'm just lazy and he really can't be doing anything to prevent me from ever getting caught up on housework, etc. she used the excuse that his cousin wasn't like that. i told her everything you just said about kids being different. i also pointed out that bd wasn't like that either, and they are both MY children, so wtf does that tell you (smil)? even kids with the same parents can be completely different.

overworkedmom's picture

It sounds like you need to have a talk with your DH about behavior modification. BUT, like other posters have said all kids mature differently. My son was almost 4 before he was potty trained and is 6 1/2 now and I have to stand over him to get dressed. My daughter on the other hand was potty trained by 18 months and as soon as she could figure out how to get to her clothes- has been getting herself dressed (about 14-15 months old). It just depends. But I will say that BM probably did scar him a bit with breastfeeding that long and then "replacing" him.