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Sherw's picture

I'm learning my way around and cut/pasted this blog from a reply that I gave earlier to "no loving feelings".

Thank you for making me feel like I'm not alone in this situation. I've never been married nor have I wanted any kids. I got married last December (at 47) to a great guy who has a 15 yr old son. We dated for 8 years (met him after his divorce & ex wife actually cheated on HIM) before biting the bullet but I've never related to his son. The ex wife lives within walking distance and our life styles are very different. She's totally disorganized, unclean, and a horse person/farm girl (55) and I think ADHD. The SS15 stays with us most of the time I think only to watch tv, eat, sleep, and have a decent roof over his head. He comes & goes as he pleases which really drives me nuts because I never know when he'll walk in the house un-announced. We still pull teeth to brush teeth, take a shower, clean his room, & pick up after himself. He's a boyscout with other kids that aren't too swift either so there's no real good rule model. Because he lacks organizational skills, his lack of homework is bringing down the grades. I used to be on him all the time about homework, brushing teeth, cleaning up after himself, helping around the house instead of sitting on his butt watching tv, etc., but I've disengaged. That's worked for me but his schoolwork shows a marked downside. Occasionally, I'll "break red" and throw his dirty (or clean clothes not put away) on his bed so he is forced to deal with them. Since he doesn't help at all around the house, I force him to do his own laundry - If he wants clean clothes, he has to do them himself. I've hidden the remotes to TV's so he won't sit in front of it all the time when we're not home and maybe he'll pick up his room to get the priviledge back...but he doesn't care. Since there's no communication with the ex & us who lives walking distance away, he'll just go there until it's time to come back to our house to go to bed. I've left the discipline up to his dad, but I think he feels guilty that we don't see him enough to blend his love with discipline so he backs off. SS15 & I try to avoid each other. I can't seem to say anything nice since there's so much to say about what he's not doing in the little time I see him. I like other peoples kids, they seem to have pleasant personalities, manners, self discipline, and a desire to carry a conversation. I absolutey love dogs, why can't I pretend he's a lost puppy and have some feelings for this kid? I see him as a slob with no personality, dirty, disorganized, selfish, ....OK, I'm just venting and it does feel better.

I live on 108 acres and cut/trim/maintain all the grass because I can't count on anyone teaching the 15yr old load to do any work around the house inside or out. Last summer, he sat on his "arse" in the cool air conditioning while I was sweating butterballs mowing, trimming and cutting grass all day every weekend. It's not my place to tell him what to do. When I've made a suggestion that he can help, he just says he has to go to his Moms house because she's expecting him. Of course, I can't verify it since there's no communication with us. We avoid each other like the plague. Funny, she treats me like the one who cheated on her ex and not the other way around.

I know after reading everyone else's problems that this doesn't sound bad at all. But, it's driving me crazy because I can't imagine living the next 3 years until after High School graduation under the same conditions. Every morning is the same...yell at him because he slept through his alarm, yell for him to get out of the shower, yell at him to hurry up or be late for the bus, etc...of course he'll call mommy to give him a ride to school if he misses the bus.

I think his dad & I are lousy parents not to mention his enabling mother. SS15 will have to go to summer school or take some 9th grade classes over next year. So, when is his laziness considered bad and what can we do about it?? Although I don't like him, I don't like to see him fail either. I'm really not a hateful person until I get around him...Help!

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Anon2009's picture

I can totally relate to what you're going through!

Does your DH have a visitation schedule set in stone with the court?

I used to sleep through my alarm a lot growing up (and I still do!). I'm no morning person, believe me! However, I always make it to work in a timely and presentable fashion. Does he have an alarm clock with a snooze button? Maybe if he did, he could just hit the snooze button and then wake up in 5 or 10 minutes, whenever it goes off...

Maybe some therapy for all of you (DH, you and SS) is in order. It seems as though what he's doing is what a lot of teens do, but he might still have some issues that haven't been addressed over his parents' divorce, life in general, etc.

If he's not doing chores, then it's time for a family meeting in which the three of you hash out an agreement as to what chores he will do to help out and what the consequences will be if he doesn't do them. Create a contract for all 3 of you to sign and keep copies of. Let DH enforce the consequences. However, if you see/ find out about SS's doing something good, give him praise and congratulate him.

Sherw's picture

Thanks for such a quick response! No such thing as a visitation schedule and there never was. DH wants his son over as much as possible since his homelife with BM may be disorganized and unhealthy. He knows that the home is unkept (we have never stepped foot in it but his past experience tells the story) and DH wants to make sure the son has something good to eat. The past suggests she doesn't stock food items and rarely cooks. Don't know how true that is but SS raids my fridge every chance he gets (which also irritates me) and leaves me with his dirty dishes. How many times do you have to remind a teenager to put the dirty dishes in a dishwasher? It's not like he has to hand wash them like I did when I was his age.

We've moved his alarm clock to the other side of the room but it still doesn't help. He'll get up and shut it off and go back to sleep. This of course means DH & I have awakened at 5:30am with the alarm and are on alert until he makes the bus at 6:20. It doesn't help matters that I hate mornings and have already started off on the wrong foot Biggrin I've also suggested installing a shower timer but DH doesn't want to go to all that trouble. So, he has to pound on the door at 6:00 am to get him out of a 20 minute shower. Every morning, the same scenerio...

DH is such a great guy but a lousy father and business owner. He spoils his employees by being too nice and overlooks his son's actions because he doesn't see them. Not that SS does anything really bad, but DH isn't consistent or doesn't impose consequences for SS's actions or especially non-actions. I've actually reached a point that it's hard to praise good behavior since I don't get to witness too much good behavior. I know that sounds terrible. But, when I do see him, I have to remind him of what he forgot or didn't do..blah blah blah -SOS, differnt day. I'm just not used to being around kids let alone teenagers. I was brought up "children should be seen & not heard" Ugh, try to wipe that out of your memory bank. I have a misconception that kids are supposed to be part of your team. Helpful, kind, considerate, loving, did I mention helpful?? Maybe an exclamation of "I'll get to it right away" would make my day...heck maybe even my week! Or, just volunteer once to do something on your own without having to be nagged to do it....please? Just once!

OK, breathe...

I've made suggestions about contracts and following rules, but DH only follows through for a short period and doesn't stay on top of things. I'll have to say he's a little lazy in that regard too. He's such a hard worker but too darn nice & easy on people! SS used to at least put the garbage out on Sunday, but i think he discovered that hiding out at Mom's house will get him out of having to do anything at our house.

It's hard to disengage when I want to butt in all the time. I don't want to be controlling but sometimes I feel nothing gets done unless I force the issue. (I manage a 248,000 sf building but can't seem to manage my own household) I feel like you only have one chance to raise a kid right and we're blowing it because neither one of us knows how. I wish we could communicate to SS's BM, but she's impossible to talk to. We all really need to get on the same page for the sake of the kid, but I see it will never happen.

Thanks for listening! I agree, therapy is in order and soon! I hope I can get to a point in this forum that I can help others without sounding like I'm B....ing all the time Smile

SRS177's picture

However, I'm not allowed to discipline and so I do leave it to his dad who does not discipline either. However, I asked him once why he treats his dad like the maid and he said that His dad likes doing stuff for him so why not. So, maybe if you leave the yelling and such to his dad and let him have to deal with it a bit, he'll get tired of it. That's about all the advice I can give.. so far it hasn't helped me either, but I thought I'd try.

TinaKay's picture

I also married later in life, have no kids and married a man with 2. Thankfullky his daughter is now of legal age but his 16 year old sounds much like your ss.
He wanted to live with us at one point
( we agreed his kids wwould not live with us unless something major happened to bio mom as I do not want to live with kids and it was agreed upon before we married), not wanting to go home after visits, pouting, whining but I just couldn't handle a kid living with me, more so due to his personality traits which I found lazy and sloppy....
so we did not encourage him or lead him to believe that would ever happen.
He also does bad at school ( barely passes each year ). He lives with his mother who is also within walking distance and his sister.

I felt it was hopeless and then all of a sudden things changed in the most unexpected way...
not sure exactly what happened but all of a sudden he starts talking about wanting to move on his own up north and be an electrician like his grandfather....
I almost fell over when he said he wanted to graduate early
and he is working on getting all his credits to be able to.
I was stunned.

Can't figure out what happened except I know he must not be very happy living with his birth mother and sister
and the outcome was most unexpected that he would decide to grow up and get the heck away from them, so have faith that things can change. Maybe he just needs some motivation and MORE time with his bio mom Wink

Smile
Your post reminds me very much of my situation with ss and the thing I guess I dislike aboiut him the most is he is lazy. His father isn't and neither is his bio mom, so I don't get it.
I just can't stand how lazy he is, he even eats lazy and pig like and was quite overweight for some time. All this has changed this year.
He is thin and even eating salad !
Maybe part of his change too is interest in girls ???
The change
is really shocking and sudden. Will it last? sure hope so......

Sherw's picture

It's nice to know there are other females out there that weren't born with maternal instincts. My heart actually sank when I met my DH as a BF and he said he had a 7 yr old at the time. While dating, the SS only visited which was tolerable. We built a house together on the other half of his former marriage property so I knew the SS would be spending more time with us but didn't realize HOW MUCH! I'll have to say, our place is a better environment for a child to grow up but I just wish he'd grow up faster and help out in the process. I keep telling DH I can't believe the lazy load is HIS son! But I think you're right, once they start maturing and getting interested in the opposite sex, they begin the process of growing up. Lord I hope so. He already spends alot of time with his Mom and has a great relationship with her but as an older mom with an only child, I think she coddles him too much. Who am I too say...never had any kids - just the 4 legged furry ones that I spoil to death! Wink

I'm so glad to hear your situation has improved and there's hope at the end of the perverbial tunnel. He's lucky to have a grandfather he admires and looks up to enough to take after his profession. I think all kids need a mentor or someone they respect besides parents to show them the right way of doing/saying/acting/eating/cleaning/grooming/etc.

Thanks for your response, I can't believe how much it helps to converse with others who feel your pain too.

stuknaz's picture

This is so funny..My SS has an alarm that goes off at 5:30 am and it just goes on and on. i have to get up and shut it off. I don't know why he needs an alarm he sure as HELL does not do much in scholl. failing everything even GYM!
Dishes in the sink eating everything up in the house!! That sounds like my house! BM not having money for groceries to feed HER kids..sounds like my situation.
I don't have any of my own but if I did they sure as hell would wash the dishes. But the latest thing is "Oh, we only wash the stuff we use!' What the hell is this!! They wash their plate or their 1 fork or 1 glass.
So I guess they live in a boarding house! I can't wait for them to graduate high school and get the HELL out!

"And this too shall pass..."

stuknaz's picture

Don't worry you are not alone. Sounds like my lazy SS who is sixteen! He had to go to summer school as well because he failed more than half of his 9th grade classes. I have two SS and neither of them wash dishes, cut grass or takes the trash out! All they do is play Sports from Lacrosse to Baseball.
I am thankful that these kids are 16 going on 17 and 14 going on 14 and i ponly have a few more years of this crap!
Hang in there!

"And this too shall pass..."