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notsobad's picture

We just bought a lovely new house! I'm so excited to decorate and settle into the house.

The one drawback is that I won't have a garden. The house is on .5 of an acre but it's mostly forest and full of deer.
Short of putting up a greenhouse (which might happen next year) I'll have to be satisfied with pots on my deck.

I know there are some gardeners on here, so what grows best in pots?
We have a huge deck, like over 400 sq feet. It wraps around the side and back of the house and is elevated, so no deer.
I know I won't be able to start till next year but I'm wondering if garlic will grow in a pot. It needs to be planted in the fall.

Also, any ideas on decorative plants for the front of the house and around the garage that the deer won't decimate?

I'm in zone 3b, front facing west, side deck facing south and back deck facing east. The north side of the house can't be seen and is just grass.

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Acratopotes's picture

Oh dang , I love Gardening lol but my plant suggestions will probably not do you any good,

I research a bit for your area and there's some things that I grow that will work for you as well,

Medical Lavender, Oregano, Purple and Green Basil, Parsley, Rosemary, Chives, Cherry Tomatoes, Strawberries,
(all above need very good draining soil)

Blueberries, Goji berries and Honey berries (but with berries you might have bears lol)

Blue Flag Iris (and any other flower with from same family should do well)
Fucshia's, Petunias, Osteospermum plants - gets like weeds lol

notsobad's picture

Thank you, Acratopotes.

I plan on having an herb garden. I have one now with lavender, basil, oregano, rosemary, thyme, chives, parsley and dill. I'll put all of them in a new box in the new house.
I hadn't thought of berries, of course strawberries will grow, but I've never had any luck with blueberries. I'll have to google goji and honey berries.

We haven't heard of any bears! However, we could get them and the last thing I want on my deck is a bear. There was a cougar sighting but he didn't stay long.

I have irises now, but I'm not sure what type. My son is staying in our old place so I'll digg some tubers up next spring and hopefully they'll transfer well.

Acratopotes's picture

see if you can find goose berries......

Oh if Dill grows then Fennel will grow there as well, nothing nicer then Fennel tea or fried Fennel bulbs....

Sage would also grow there then.... you can burn leaves after every skid visit to get the evil away }:)

thinkthrice's picture

Me too!

MoominMama's picture

Most things can be grown in pots. It's just a matter of size, positioning and using the right potting medium (compost).

For herbs then you need really free draining soil/compost, add some sharp sand, small broken stones and do not add manures or feeds. They like to be impoverished and to sit in full time sun. Except for parsley which likes it a bit shaded and damp. Lavendars, catmints, rosemary look lovely and smell great too. Lemon balm also (melissa officianalis. I find the bronze fennel better as it is not such a thug and has lovely bronze foliage. Bear in mind that a lot of plants don't like to grow near fennel but as you are growing in pots you probably won't have that problem.

Lots of climbers and even small trees and shrubs do well in containers. Japanese maples are lovely this way but most will need to be shaded from strong sun especially first thing in the morning. Clematis does well too. I grow a lot of spring bulbs, hyacinth (smells great), daffodils, aconites etc for spring colour early in the year.

I'm not sure about plants that deer won't eat. Maybe things with thorns like, pyracantha (lovely flowers and red/orange/yellow berries in the fall) or Chaenomelus (japanese quince) is a lovely plant that bears small edible quince fruit in the summer. Climbing roses are good in large containers.

You have loads of options if you have loads of big containers Smile

These are two of my japanese maples growing in pots. https://imgur.com/GCpSxud. They are about 5/6 feet high now.

You might need ericacous soil (ph acid soil) for blueberries and some shrubs. If so, then those plants will need to be watered with rain water only. Hope some of this helps.

notsobad's picture

Great suggestions, thank you!

I have a few pots, none very large but I will be watching for sales.
DH built me a gorgeous cedar planter for my herbs at our old place. He said he'll build me another for the new place but we're so busy with other fixes at the house, it's very low on the list of things to do.

notsobad's picture

I love the Japanese maple, I'll have to do some research and see if I can grow it here and if the deer like it or not.

MoominMama's picture

They are pretty hardy. I looked it up in my book and it says US zones 3/4 - 10. Most of them are hardy to -20 or even -30. In hot weather they need to be well watered but thats about it.

Acratopotes's picture

oh I forgot... what about planting cherry trees?? it snows there right... so it could work Wink

and we get miniature lemon or orange trees here and they actually produce fruits.... looks stunning in the house

mro's picture

Are you opposed to using any deer netting? I had about given up on vegetable gardening on my property because of deer then decided to take a roughly 6 x 20' plot right off the back of the house and completely enclose it. It's not pretty but it does keep the critters out.

If you are looking at container gardening I know people who are very successful at growing about anything- tomatoes, peppers, herbs, etc.

notsobad's picture

Our backyard has a huge slop to it and there are no stairs from the deck down to the backyard.
We've talked about putting up a retaining wall and expanding the lower deck but that's years in the future.

In the old house I have raised beds and I've grown everything in them. I treat the garden the same as if it was ground level. When it comes to individual pots everything seems to get overgrown or dry up. I'm not sure if I'm over planting or using the wrong soil or not watering enough?

LostinSpaceandTime's picture

Congratulations on the new house!

What about vertical/wall gardening? Do you have space for it?
Be sure to install some irrigation method so you do not have to water all the time.
There are some tower garden systems also. And tomatoes can be grown in the upside down hanging planters.

Hanging boxes over the deck rails may work for some plants. Even melons can be grown on trellis if you support the fruit with netting. Also cucumbers on trellis or bush varieties.

The herbs will be nice to have right on the deck.

Use a lightweight potting soil mix. This should reduce the weed issue from regular soil.

I am turning my garden beds back to lawn...the work is not worth the bother of it for now. Too many weeds, bugs, now enough rain or too much!
If I plant anything it will be in containers from now on.

Also the critters get into anything. And if the deer do not eat it they use it for a scratching post! The bunnies like to chop off the new planting seeds to sharpen their teeth too!

If you have dogs or cats or kids be sure to check what plants are toxic. We put in hidden fence for dogs and I looked up a lot of the plants that I need to move now. Azaleas, Rododendrums, irises, Shasta daisies...
A lot of the trees on our property are also bad if dogs chew the fruit or seeds pods. Thankfully they are getting older and not into everything so much.

So far the deer have not bothered my white lilacs, zebra grasses, wild tiger lilies, yucca plants, or sedum.
Any young plantings are protected with a wire fence ring for several years and longer if I think they will just rub antlers on it.

Take your time and enjoy your new home!

Acratopotes's picture

if you do not have big pots....... and are as cheap as I am...

go to building sites and see if you can't get the big paint buckets (we only have plastic ones, no more tin ones)

They make awesome pots for plants, you only drill 3 holes at the bottom, and you can paint the outside any way you want, I normally paint them brown and then use a tooth brush to do sort of a golden spray effect over it, with a bit of black. Sometime I leave the handles on, depends on what I plant in the containers, the handles can be used for vain plating, branch plating...

I've tried to do the cement towel around it, but it was too much work lol.... you simply dip a towel in thick cement water then drape it over the bucket with folds etc. leave it till it's dry, drill holes, leave the bucket in the inside and plant.... from the outside it looks like cement buckets but it's not.