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Well well well couldn't afford a Tshirt but got a new Truck!!

Goblin's picture

Dh went to get ss for his Thursday night visitation and surprise surprise in Bm's drive way is sitting a brand new Dodge 1500. Ss was really excited about it and wanted to show dh so he got out and looked. He said it looked fully loaded and no he didn't go inside it, he just stood at the door and let ss tell him all about its features. I told dh I bet his dad paid for it or that he paid part of the down payment.

Dh called his dad (stepdad) and asked, and his dad asked if he was really that petty that he would care who bought the truck that ss rode in and he should just be happy that ss has safe and reliable transportation. He also made some jabs about not taking care of your kid so others have to. Dh just told his dad he loved him and to please stay out of this and he hung up. He must have gotten 15 texts afterwards telling him he needs to step up and make sure his kid is cared for, where was he Monday night for the boy scout meeting and he went to make sure ss had a male role model and he wasn't surprised dh wasn't there, he needed to be a better father to his son instead of to my kids. He went on and on and the last text said, I never should have acted like a father to you. I should have treated you the way you treat your son so that you would know how it feels like and actually be a father. Dh was in tears.

We had a long talk and he isn't wanting to give in to his dad and bm although I told him maybe he should go to the scout meetings and maybe we should rethink the one activity rule if it's going to cause this many problems. He is sticking to our one activity per kid rule so I am going to end karate for the kids. He kind of agreed with it. He hates that they pushed him to do this but he is a little excited to do this with ss. I asked my girls this morning if they wanted to do cheer leading and they said yes so i will sign them up for that and dh can do scouts with ss. I also decided not to cater to ss anymore so I planned a weekend full of activities and I won't feel guilty ss is with his mom.

edit to say, we don't know who paid for the truck or if he co-signed or anything. We are just assuming he did since bm was to broke to buy a t-shirt.

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ESMOD's picture

I think it's a good idea to switch up those activities if you are committed to only doing one per child. TBH, not a terrible idea in theory since kids can get so over-scheduled.

I think scouts with DAD would be a good bonding activity and give them time together. I think SGF needs to back off that activity and let the father step in instead. But for him to do that your DH has to really commit to being there.

Cheer for the girls will give YOU one on one time with them and have the chance to do stuff like go shopping after:)

RE the truck.. IDK.. sometimes it's easier to buy new than come up with money for a costly repair. She may have gotten one of those "no money down and no payments for 60 days" deals and cash flow wise that might be ok for her.

If SGF helped her.. that's his business.

TBH I think your DH is getting in too much of a peeing match with the guy in trying to prove his SGF and his son "wrong"... He doesn't understand that they do have some valid feelings and observations. He needs to put actions into play instead of just trying to plead his case.

uofarkchick's picture

I feel so bad for your husband. I know what it's like to have your parents turn on you and choose the ex's side. My ex is in prison for abusing me and assaulting police officers and my mother takes his calls from prison. How she can talk to the man that tried to kill her daughter is beyond me. My heart goes out to your husband. It hurts. I keep my mother at arm's length now. I don't tell her anything about my life and I don't visit her. It sounds like your husband might need to start distancing himself. The things his step father said to him are disgusting.

thinkthrice's picture

I've found some mothers like to live vicariously through their daughters. Secretly they believe they "would have made a better wife" to their daughter's ex.

Weird but true.

uofarkchick's picture

I was talking to a friend of mine about it and his first question about it was, "Were they sleeping together?" I don't think that's the case here but I do think that he has some sort of dirt on my mom that she doesn't want me to ever find out. I'm guessing she was the one feeding him information when I disappeared with the kids after he threatened to break the restraining order and kill me. I ask her outright why she talks to him and she said it was none of my business.

I think you are spot on with the "living vicariously" observation.

tankh21's picture

I agree with what Brick is saying because what BM does and what BM pays for or has someone else pay for her is really no one's business but hers. BM over here bought a brand new BMV but, it is really none of my DH's business or mine what that she does with her money. I get where you are coming from that BM can buy a brand new truck or convince someone to buy it for you but, who really gives a damn because it isn't going to change everything that has happened. I think the focus here should be SS while he is in your home and finding out what needs to be done to get him back on track and his relationship with your DH. Trust me it chaps my ass every time I see BM get something new because I know the only reason she is able to afford all these nice fancy expensive things is because DH pays her a lot of CS every month. But, it is really no one business what BM does with her money and just like it's not BM's business what DH does with his. Trust me BM over here tries to be a snake in the grass to get something out of suckers all the time. Since my DH has been with me she can't take advantage anymore since I brought it to DH's attention. I sit over here and wonder why BM can't buy my YSS a cell phone charger and then he tries to take OSS from him and they fight over it constantly but, again it is really none of my business what BM does or doesn't do. DH and I just try to handle every situation with BM by trying to ignore her and her little antics and she realizes that she isn't getting the attention she wants so she stops for awhile and then starts back up again. Hopefully BM will learn soon that her antics really don't work that much anymore. I hope everything works out for your Goblin.

Monchichi's picture

Have you considered that your husband is more of a father to your daughters than he is to his own son? Maybe grandad is seeing something the two of you aren't. Are you 100% certain that this little boy is being treated fairly by his dad? Lastly let go of what BM does or does not have. It will drive you insane.

twoviewpoints's picture

So your DH calls his SF and asks (like it's any of your DH's business)if Paw Paw had purchased a vehicle for BM....but then your DH starts squealing about stay out this.

WTF? Stay out of this? It is none of DH's business where or how BM got the vehicle. Paw Paw didn't call or text up DH. No, DH brought the issue to Paw Paw. If Dh didn't like the tirade Paw Paw laid at DH's feet, then DH shouldn't be bringing 'his business' to Paw Paw.

Doesn't matter where the vehicle came from. Whether BM stole it off the lot, leased it, got a big earned income tax refund or Paw Paw purchased it and gifted it to her. What the h*ll business is it of your DH? The answer would be 'none'. Not one iota of a degree.

If you buy a vehicle is it any business of BM who is paying for it or where and how you got it? No. It's not unrealistic nor unbelievable to think BM was money tight a few weeks ago , but now things are ok. Plenty of people have multiple unexpected expenses and have a few tight weeks of pinching pennies until the next pay check or the tax return comes in. Not everybody has cash just sitting around waiting for the unexpected household 'emergency expense'. Refrigerators die overnight. Washers, dryers, central heating...every bit of it can go to h*ll in a flash and need immediately replace/serviced. Money has to come from somewhere and something else put on hold until more cash comes in.

So, again, exactly what is your DH whining over? I have children. I have grandchildren. I don't call my children and ask f-ing permission to spend my money and who I can spend it on. If one of my kids called and demanded to know if I had purchased BM a vehicle, I would ask my kid why he/she thought it was any of their business what I do with my money or what I choose to gift someone.

Hey, maybe Paw Paw bought the fancy vehicle so BM can haul all that lovely new camping gear for Scout events in. How nice of Paw Paw. BM wont have to worry on how to transport pup tents for a dozen scouts. Your Dh isn't interested in scouts nor the camping trips, so what does he care if BM is now all set to roll?

JadeMom's picture

Who cares about BM's new truck or how she got it.

What bothers me is that I feel like Stepdad implied that in order to be a good father, DH should be making sure BM has "safe and reliable" transportation, DH should be making sure he spends $$$$ on SS's scouts uniform.

No, BM needs to worry about her own transportation. In order to be a good dad, DH needs to worry about safe transportation when SS is with HIM. DH needs to pay for the expenses for the activity that HE signed up for. When BM signed SS up for scouts, she knew what she was getting into. Asking to split the expense of a new uniform would have acceptable, I think, but from what I understand, SS and BM tried to dump 100% of that expense on DH. Why should DH pay for something 100% when he wasn't even consulted about signing SS up for scouts? I mean, would you guys ask BM to pay 100% of karate expenses? No one starts crying that BM is a bad mom for not paying karate expenses.

Is DH a bad dad for not attending the scouts meetings? NO. DH and SS have karate. If you didn't have karate, then, yeah, maybe I'd wonder. But honestly? I was in softball for four years growing up. 98% of the time, my parents just dropped me off at practice/games. I didn't think they were bad parents for doing that. (I was actually relieved, I realized that I got a lot of anxiety when I knew my parents were watching and played better without them there).

I think ultimately, it's smart to drop karate for SS and have DH do scouts with him. That opens DH up to go 50-50 with expenses with BM. NOT 100%! If BM can't even afford half the expenses, then why did she sign SS up in the first place?

BUT. I also think DH needs to tell stepdad to back the hell off. I think it's bizarre that stepdad is trying to be a Disney dad to SS. And it seems like BM is just taking advantage of it. If that's what it is, then stepdad can waste his money on her. That's his problem, not yours.

notsobad's picture

Please don't give her ideas! The next post will surely be about how BM now has a new man in her life!

hereiam's picture

he needed to be a better father to his son instead of to my kids.

I feel bad for all of the men out there who find it hard to be a good father to their own kids because of the ex's antics. Your husband probably IS a better father to your kids because he CAN be.

When my niece was born, my SD (11, at the time) was very jealous about how involved we were with my niece. Well, BM made it so hard for DH to be a big of part of his daughter's life after the divorce. Between the game playing and the lies, and BM convincing SD that she would miss out on things if she came over, their relationship became more and more distant. And SD believed the lies, which made her trust DH less and less.

It's a hard battle to fight, no matter what people say these fathers SHOULD do (go to court, stand up to BM, or whatever ), it's just not always that easy.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

It's really odd to me.

I agree, Fruity. I'm just going to make some popcorn and watch the count go over 100.

tankh21's picture

LOL }:)

Aniki-Moderator's picture

Extra CHEEEEEEEEESY pizza. Nom nom nom...

Maybe I will get pizza for dinner tonight. Pizza is soul food and soothes the savage beast within me.
Add a bottle of pinot noir...

Tuff Noogies's picture

i am eating pizza right now. seriously. it is soul food.

something you'd NEVER guess about me - what's one topping i do NOT like on pizza (besides any veggie)?

Tuff Noogies's picture

it's extra cheese. :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:

it's a texture thing as opposed to a taste issue. but yes, i pass on extra cheese - but for pizza ONLY!!!!

hereiam's picture

On the radio yesterday, they were talking about a place that makes a pizza with 101 different cheeses. So, the DJs were trying to name cheeses and they came up with about 4.

I thought of Tuff, who can probably name 101 cheeses!

twoviewpoints's picture

But BM hasn't said or done anything here in the ol' Scout Shirt Saga. It's all been Dad and Paw Paw.

Set [ex] DH up for failure? BM didn't do anything but show up for a ceremony for her kid. She was asked why kid was dressed wrong. Where did it read 'BM called and invited all ex h's family to event , knowing full well people would ask her ex Dh why ex DH failed to purchase a shirt for his son' ?

Where did it read 'BM called and begged Paw Paw to run out and buy scout merchandise for the kid' ?

Except for where I did read BM responded to questions about why she couldn't afford that week a scout shirt, I haven't read where BM has done anything to cause and/or promote this little drama.

It totally seems to be forgotten in all this that the child participated just fine in the scout activity without any participation and/or cash input from Dad the entire year (or longer)...obviously all that time BM was supplying and doing whatever the activity called for. So really, why would BM go all out and plot and plan this one big 'aha Dad is a failure' scheme one evening out of the total blue? Doesn't even make sense. If she were as sneaky and out to get Dad she had plenty of chances all along.

Setting it up to make Dad look a failure *SMH* yeah some are digging real deep in attempting to make BM evil here. Last week the woman was accused of helping the kid trash the house. Da*n this Bm has just gone bat sh*t conniving and crazy in two weeks flat. All in the hopes of gaining a lousy $37.

twoviewpoints's picture

" Why, then, did she send a child to ask for something when she knew the answer would be "no"? "

Where did you actually read "BM sent kid to ask Dad"

Linked and highlighted, please.

Oh, and yes, I did read kid asked, but where did it actually say BM told kid to ask or that she "sent" kid to ask Dad?

tankh21's picture

People do things by patterns once a snake in the grass always a snake in the grass is what I think. If BM was conniving then she would've been from the very beginning. Some people are just too blind to see someone for who they truly are.

Liger's picture

"I told dh I bet his dad paid for it or that he paid part of the down payment."

You sound like an instigator. Strange how you and your dh feels free to comment about how stepdad spends his money. But when the stepdad questions your dh money decisions, he was sticking his nose where he doesn't belong. Your dh seems hypocritical.

Plus bm could have money problems that can be resolved in two weeks. She could have paid for it herself.

I wouldn't be surprised if your dh actions ruins his relationship with his stepdad. He seems to loves the drama.

Disneyfan's picture

Sooooooo, last week we had a blog posted about a BM complaining because dad purchased a cheap boat.

This week we're treated to blog about a SM and dad up in arms because mom has a new truck.

Coincidence???? Things that make you say HHHHMMMMMM?????

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

...why is this story starting to sound like a BM's wet dream?

Everyone in the ex's family now hate's him because they think he's a deadbeat father, rich exFIL buying me things, my kid turning ex and SM's life hell by vandalizing the property and not getting so much as a slap on the wrist...

Like man, if all I needed was an ex who had a rich stepfather to buy me everything as long as I claimed it was for the kid, my tinder dating would get a lot more specific...

robin333's picture

Other people's money = none of your business. An adult skid should not be questioning a SP about how or on whom their money is spent.

TwoOfUs's picture

I agree on one level...but on another...if the BM is constantly asking for extras and getting on her ex for "not providing" enough, then I'd be interested to know.

OP - it sounds like your DH's stepdad actually resented providing for your DH all those years, and now is his chance to take it out on him and rub his face in it by distancing him from his own son. Pathetic and evil, frankly.

**Edited to add: If this stepdad wasn't all up in his ADULT SS's financial and parenting business in the first place, none of this would be an issue. Like attracts like...

robin333's picture

Oh I understand your perspective. I've often wondered what BM did with CS but I'm not her adult skid and never asked her.

My point is that OP's DH isn't questioning BM, he's questioning his SF.

It would chap my a*s if that were my SF but I would have no right to ask about SF's finances (until he's demented and in need of assistance).

TwoOfUs's picture

Yeah but the stepdad started it by involving himself in his adult SS's finances and parenting decisions. At the end of the day, that's not the stepdad's kid...it's his SS's minor, biological child...and stepdad is creating a lot of unnecessary drama and damage to that parent-child relationship. I think that's horrid...and any judge would agree. It's not granddad's place to parent that kid.

If this story is true, it's likely not going to end well for stepdad/granddad. My DH's parents stepped in and used their $$$ to override his parenting decisions more than once when the skids were minors. They robbed him of many parenting choices that he should have had and created unnecessary distance between him and his kids...all in the name of "caring" about their well-being. Now the skids basically see them as an ATM or resent them for the manufactured problems with their dad. None of the skids are really close with them or seek out their company. Either this granddad is going to PAS his own son's kid...or the kid will wise up and resent granddad. Either way, he's losing valuable time with his own father, which isn't good for him

Disneyfan's picture

When posters post about BMs who have family members siding with dad, pretty much everyone "cheers". If her family is siding with "the enemy", then she must be pretty bad. It's viewed as validation that the moms are________. I agree with that line of thinking.

Shouldn't that apply now?

TwoOfUs's picture

When have you seen this happen? Please. Show me.

I've read hundreds of posts on here and have never seen "cheering" when BM's family sides with her ex. Never seen a story when that was the case, frankly.

notsobad's picture

I haven't read through all the responses.
I'm not sure that this isn't a troll but here's my 2 cents.

I think that Stepgrandpa is seeing stepsons bio dad. Stepgrandpa came into this family and bio dad wasn't providing for stepson so he took over and provided.
Now, here is the kid he raised acting like his bio dad and leaving BM to care for the child while he goes off and lives a new life, with a new wife and new kids. Leaving his own child in the dust.
BM doesn't have a man in her life and so now Stepgrandpa is doing what he did for his own stepson, he's providing a strong male figure who comes in and rescues them.

Stepgrandpa is disgusted in his SS because all he can see is bio dad and that SS is repeating history.