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coltsfan839's picture

I really just need some people to talk to. I have no one that I can vent to. It's so hard. I used to say that I never wanted to date anyone with kids because I don't like kids. When I met my now husband, I told him that I didn't want to date him because of his kids. But he kept talking to me, and talking to me and eventually I fell for him. I knew the kids were a packaged deal and honestly I thought that I could handle it better than I am. I really don't like being a step mom. I dont even want kids of my own let alone someone elses. I feel that I have no authority to discipline and my husband isn't good at it either because he wants to be the cool parent compared to his ex wife. The kids drive me absolutely insane. I took a job traveling so that I wouldn't have to be around them. When we took them on vacation recently, I seriously wanted to take a bottle of xanax and escape them. I just have no patience. I like my space, my money, my time, my freedom, my sleep, everything that is compromised when you have kids. My husband and I never get any alone time together. Haven't had sex in months because of it. I lived alone for the majority of my adult life and worked hard for my money and I hate that it feels I am living pay check to paycheck now because of the kids and child support. I love my husband soooo much, hes the best thing thats ever happened to me.....I just feel like I want to cry because of the kids.  There has got to be someone else out there who doesn't like being a step mom. If so, please reach out to me! I just want someone to understand where I am coming from. My best friend who I would normally vent to is dating my brother in law so i worry anything I say to her will end up getting back to my husband.

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SteppedOut's picture

I mean this in the most gentle way possible...but it doesn't sound at all like your husband is the best thing to ever happen to you. You sound miserable. Y'all aren't even having sex. Ugh. 

Why are you living pay check to pay check now as compared to when you were single? You should not be paying for his kids or having to cover him being short on shared expenses.

I think you really need to consider if this is how you want to live the rest of your life. 

coltsfan839's picture

He really is amazing. Treats me so good and goes out of his way to do nice things for me. He really makes me happy. We aren't having sex because we have split custody and any day that my husband is off, we have the kids. We never get alone time. We don't have anyone to watch the kids so we can even have a date night. We have a joint bank account which I wish that we didn't but I don't know how I'd even bring that up to him. We pay his ex wife child support even though we have 50/50, which I don't understand. The support is primarly supposed to be used for daycare/after school costs. When we got the court order 3 years ago, our oldest was actually in daycare. He's not been in daycare for 2 years now but she still gets the money for it. We're afraid to go back to modify because my husband makes more money now than he did when the order was put in place. I can't imagine life without my husband. But thats as far as it goes. I am miserable with the kids. Will it ever get better, maybe I'll grow into the motherly figure or maybe as they get older, things will look up?

Aniki-Moderator's picture

He is not amazing playing the cool parent. That makes him a NOT good parent and UNamazing.

Hon, HE has 50/50. HE should be paying child support. HE has to go to court. If you two split up, you and your money are out of the picture. 

Looking_Ahead21's picture

I totally get it. I make more money than my husband and in the beginning of our marriage, I was putting in way more than half of the expenses. It's hard to open up to your husband about that and not feel guilty. I've been very careful when we talk expenses but what I just recently told him is we needed to evaluate our finances because we were spending more than saving. I took the opportunity to readjust my contribution and he's seeing that now. It's tough but approaching it that way can be a good first step.

coltsfan839's picture

Yeah my husband was barely getting by when we met. When we joined our accounts, we weren't paying child support at the time. She didn't file for that until a couple years after we met. I wish we had seperate accounts because I'm definately more of a saver than he is. Although he always asks before spending any large amount, I just miss seeing large digits in my account. How did you bring it up to him? I feel like that would be so awkaward and could lead into a fight.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

HIS kids are NOT your responsibility. Anything YOU do for his kids - buy things, play chauffeur, skid sit - is an option.

Please tell me you are not paying his child support. If he can't, he needs to get a better job or a second job.

I never wanted to date anyone with kids because I don't like kids.

I swear I've read this exact statement twice in as many weeks. The bottom line is that you're terribly unhappy. Life is too short to be this unhappy when you can change your situation. So change it.

coltsfan839's picture

Well the child support comes out of our joint bank account. He provides for our family. He works very hard as a paramedic and makes good money. He can afford the child support. We would like to have it mofidifed but we risk being more than it is now because he makes more than he did when the order was placed.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

Don't you also provide? You said you took a job traveling.

Yes, he might have to pay more. He may owe back CS for not disclosing. 

Lollybobs's picture

Coltsfan, I think there's a lot of people on here who don't like being a step parent (me included)! A lot of people have got through and survived though so you'll get some good advice. 

OH's unwillingness to actually parent and do the hard stuff as well as the fun stuff is referred to as a DIsney Dad. Take some time to read some posts and blogs and you'll find a lot of us are living with one.

How often do you have the skids? I'm assuming they don't live with you full time if your DH pays child support.Also how old are they? Toddlers and teenagers present very different problems.

I completely get why you feel you have no authority to discipline. Many people agree with this and feel that it's up to the biological parent (who without a doubt should be doing his part). And if that's what works for you, that's fine. It wasn't a situation I was prepared to tolerate though. You cannot have responsibility for children without authority. You also cannot have children in your home without clear cut rules, routines and expectations - and consequences of bad behaviour. If you do, it will be very miserable.The hard thing is getting DH on the same page - but I insisted that if he wanted the skids in the house, we agreed all these things and either of us could enforce them. Fortunately he saw the sense in this and tried hard to overcome Disney Dad behaviour. 

It's no different to a friend visiting with a badly behaved child. If they start jumping on your furniture for example, you tell them politely that we don't do that here.You don't just let them get on with it and wreck your house!  You might not be the parent but you have every right to insist on what you consider to be acceptable behaviour in your home.

The position of step parent is an awkward one. Many BMs tell their kids that 'She's not you rmom. You don't have to do what she says.' No, you're not their mom but actually yes, if they want to visit your home, they DO have to have to what you say. It would be no different to visiting an aunt and uncle's house. If a child misbehaved there, it would be reasonable to assume that both aunt and uncle have the right to call them out on their behaviour. But only one of them will be biologically related to the child. That's pretty much the same scenario with any family relationships.

Some people are happy to have no input at all and if that works for them, that's absolutely fine. We all get through Step Hell as best we can in whatever way works for us. For me though, I felt that although I'm not mom, I am a relation by marriage - just the same as the aunt/uncle scenario and if I were in a situation where the skids were behaving badly, I wanted to be in a position where I could enforce our rules. Overall, you respect someone who has authority much more than someone who you think 'She can't tell me what to do'. Obviously a lot of the time, that's what they're hearing from BM. But when you decide that's not the game you're playing and consequences are skids don't come over at all, they do start listening. 

You might find it helpful to decide whether you want to disengage completely and have nothing to do with them or whether you want to maintain some control in your own house. No right or wrong answer here - whatever works best for you.

 

coltsfan839's picture

Lollybobs, the kids are 10 and 13 both boys. We have the kids 50/50, which confuses me because I guess I thought that if you have joint custody, niether parent should be paying support. But I don't know all the ins/outs of support and the laws governing it. But the way that it is set up, we have the boys any days my husband is off work. So it makes it challenging because we never have alone time together.

My husband will discipline but it never lasts long. He will ground them from the tv or electronics and later that evening, they are watching tv again. It frustrates me because I dont want to overstep an boundaries but the kids have to learn that there are consequensces for their actions. I think they keep doing bad stuff because they know their punishment will only last a few hours. For example: our oldest got in trouble at school for his grades so my husband and his ex wife agreed that he should not be allowed to have electronics (EXCEPT for when he goes to bed!!) They let him watch tv when he is going to sleep. I'm sorry but that irritates me to no end. When my parents punished me, there were no exceptions. The older one back talks all the time and my husband tells him to stop but doesn't do anything about it. I can't tell you how many times in public the oldest has had an attitude and has embarrassed me so bad. My husband says that if the kids are doing something wrong, I have every right to punish them. He wants someone to call them out when they are doing bad. But I just feel like I can. I am such a pushover, always have been. I don't feel like I have it in me to discipline. I've heard so many people talk about the nacho method of parenting. "nacho kids, nacho problem." Personally I would rather my husband and his ex take care of all things related to the kids but I dont even know how this would be a thing that would happen or how to approach it. I already feel pretty disengaged from them but I also want control in how they act, I guess its a situation that you can't have both.

coltsfan839's picture

Yeah we both work and provide. I make a little more than him but we both contribute. Both incomes (my husband and his ex wife) have changed since the court order was in place. So I'm really not sure what would happen if we went back. I get kids are expensive but we pay her child support for daycare expenses that she isn't even using and he gives her extra money on top of that for other stuff for the kids. I guess I just don't get it. Why pay for the extra stuff when what we give her isn't being used propely in the first place?

Aniki-Moderator's picture

"WE pay..."

Are you actually paying his child support?? You should not be paying one cent of CS or daycare or any other financial responsibilities in regards to the skids. He and BM are responsible for all finances regarding their children. 

Read up on Disengagement. If you have no authority over the skids, then your DH needs to be 100% responsible for them. That includes doing anything he asks the skids to do - and they don't do it.

coltsfan839's picture

Well its hard to say who is actually paying it. When we have a joint account, all the paycheck go into one account and all the bills come out of that same account. I will read up on disengagment and see what I can learn on that topic.

thinkthrice's picture

Be aware that MANY divorced dads will be "absolutely amazing" as long as SM agrees:

-to be a financial backer of his previously enjoyed family.

-to serve as ad hoc childcare, chauffeur aka shuttle for his kid's many, many activities, personal assistant and admin assistant, maid, laundress, cook.

-to have no authority over his kids yet total responsibility of such.

-to put up with any BM boundary overstepping "for the sake of the chiiiilllldddrrreeen." (TM)

-to never bring up any serious and legitimate concerns which are usually summarily dismissed as "petty" by daddykins.

iow a doormat.  what's not to be amazing for??!!

No, you were a million times better off with your old rule of "no kids in tow."  (regardless of their ages, toddler, teen or adult)

He basically sweet talked you into all of the above.

WARNING:  If you choose to disengage,  a good 90% of guilty daddies become UNamazing instantaneously.

RUN NOW!!! Save yourself, your health and your sanity.  I refuse to believe "there are no child free men out there" because these BMs keep finding them and hooking up.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

It should NOT be "hard to say'.

Calculate the household bills. 
You pay for YOU and any bio kids YOU have.
Husband pays for HIM and HIS bio kids.

You really need to separate your finances. Once you calculate the household bills, you each put your share into the joint account to pay them. Child Support can come out of that joint account, but HE NEEDS TO PUT THAT MONEY IN THERE because that is NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. Why on earth would you think it is? I hope you realize that if you two divorce he must support himself and his kids without YOUR income.

Or you can continue on as your are, paying for his kids, supporting him and his choice to have a financially INsufficient job.

SteppedOut's picture

OP, if you are not familiar with them, please look up the following:

Gaslighting

Love bombing

tog redux's picture

OP, I know you are resisting hearing this, but there is nothing "amazing" about how your husband is behaving.  An "amazing" husband would:

  • Not want his wife to feel like drugging herself with benzos every time his kids are around
  • Make time for intimacy with his wife because he values it and because he knows she wants it
  • Parent his kids, which is best for THEM, so they can grow up to be normal adults, and not put his own need for them to like him more than they like their mother above his role as a father
  • Not expect his wife to pay ONE cent of his Child Support and would ensure that it comes out of his check before he contributes to joint funds

I don't know your story, so I'm not sure why a situation that is causing you tremendous stress and anxiety would feel like "the best thing that's ever happened to you" - but maybe a good therapist could help you figure that out.

 

hereiam's picture

I've never wanted kids, either, nor did I ever particularly want to be a step mother, but I would not be with my DH if my financial situation worsened by being with him. If yours has, that means that YOU are picking up HIS slack. He needs to get control of his finances (stop paying for extras, for one, stop paying for daycare that's not being used, for two) and you need to separate your money.

There are on-line child support calculators to figure out estimated child support, find one and get an idea of what CS would be. Paying daycare for a child who is not in daycare is ridiculous.

Traveling, so that you don't have to be around his kids because he does not discipline them, is not a situation that I would want to be in. He needs to be their father, not their friend, not the cool parent. It's not fair to you to have to put up with that.

No sex just because they are there? Do they sleep in bed with you? Adults have sex when kids are in the home.

This man did not respect you from the get go. If he had, he would have left you alone when you told him that you didn't want to date anyone with kids. Shame on him. You may feel it was romantic, that he pursued you so, but believe me, he knew what he was doing.

 

Siemprematahari's picture

You should have NEVER married this man. From day one you knew this and have always maintained not wanting to marry a man with kids but you went against your instincts and did it anyway. You were probably hoping things would "change" and imrove but they haven't. Your H is the one benefiting from this marriage financially and you are here losing your mind. Your well being should be priority and the fact that you want to medicate so not to deal is alarming (red flag).

I can't understand how he's the best thing to happen to you and he's so wonderful and you're this unhappy. It doesn't make sense. You are trying to force something that just isn't and you won't give it up because of whatever fantasy marriage you have in mind.

If he's so wonderful have a conversation with him and tell him how you feel, how unhappy you are, and that you want to separate finances to save money. You are tired of living paycheck to paycheck and you shouldn't have to. These are his children and you are in debt over something that you had no part of.

Soul search and really dig deep......this will continue being your life unless YOU make the changes necessary to be happy. Those kids aren't going anywhere anytime soon, so chin up, dust your shoulders off and handle yours.

TrueNorth77's picture

Oh girl, I feel you. I don't like this gig either. There are several things you can do to make your situation better, but it's going to require you speaking up and yes, that may cause a fight because these are uncomfortable conversations. But go back up and read what you wrote- they NEED to happen. At risk of beating a dead horse, you need separate finances. I've been with my SO 4yrs, luckily we never combined them. I am not paying for his kids unless it's something I choose to buy them. 
I have the same exact issue with my SO's lack of follow-through on consequences, except I'm lucky that his kids aren't really jerks (they are 10 and 13 though!). Still, it will be "no video games!"...but most times, 2hrs later, they get video games back. I do speak up and it does cause fights, although it isn't worth it so now I bite my tongue. Not my problem. Just watching it all is a hard pill to swallow. If they are jerks in front of me though, I would not let that go on without speaking up. I'm not a doormat.
You seem nice, but I think you need to find your voice. You are not happy with how things are- what are some changes that you have control over (yes it may require you to speak up) that can be made that would help? How can alone time be carved out for you and him? Because not having it is simply not an option. Send the kids to a sleepover, Or they are old enough that you can leave them and go on a date- DO IT. 
Also, why can't you have sex when you have the kids? People do it. Just be quiet. 

Kona_California's picture

It looks to me like a major issue here is you are being too passive and "non-confrontational." Anyone who refuses to confront issues actually creates confrontation. There is no way for you to be happy in this situation if you never voice your needs. Evading is only leading to resentment.

Your reality is that you live with two adolescents/teenagers. Avoiding asserting yourself to them is what's causing them to disrespect you. Like what another reply mentioned, you don't need to be their mother to assert yourself and tell them what isn't okay. It's also perfectly okay for you to discipilne them. It sounds like you have a good read on what is missing with your DH's approach, so telling him your thoughts would probably help the kids and your relationship. 

What you need to do is have a sit-down, up-front, honest, (key word here - honest), conversation about how you're feeling and what you need. It's possible to be sensitive to someone's feelings while communicating your own feelings. Just lead with "I love you and our marraige, I'm here to lean in and find solutions." You also gotta say "since you would like me to parent, and since I should be parenting because I am an authority who financially supports them, my opinion on consequences must be factored in. Here is what I think consequences should look like...." and tell him. You also don't need to be 100% on the exact same page as BM's parenting. Those two are no longer married, no longer share a household. YOU are the one sharing a household with DH, so it's up to the two of you on how you want it to run. You are also entitled to quality time with your DH! IMHO, if he's not making time for you in his schedule, he isn't treating you right. He should be intentionally carving out time in the calendar for periods of time together with no work AND no kids. He can work with one or the other to make time.

If you think about it... you've never given DH a chance to help you be happier if you've been keeping all of this to yourself. Stand up for yourself and remind yourself you deserve to be heard.

On a side note, I think the sex issue could be a result of your BC and anti-depressants. Both on their own are known to have that side effect. Based on my non-medical, experienced-based knowledge, if you do a copper IUD and switch medications to a stimulant base such as Wellbutrin, that would totally remove those from being a factor. I take Wellbutrin myself and don't do hormonal BC and although my reltionship is stressful, the libido is never a problem!