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The Parent Trap

CLove's picture

I get in my car and start my journey home from work.

Husband texts me "Im going to have a beer with Barnical Buddy".

I ask "is SD17 Powersulk with us tonight?"

Husband "yes, I pick her up at 6:30, shes with friends"

I chuckle "so your scheduling beer around Powersulks social time?"

H "Yes I am"

He gets home at 8, Ive already eaten. Hes shopped. No skid as he walks in the door.

We discuss. "Husband so, tell me why you schedule your life around skids social calendar? Shouldnt you just tell her when you are doing pickup and she schedules around YOU? It seems backwards to me"

Husband "well, I want her to find as much joy as she can because she has to be around that dog at her mothers apartment, and then be around her mother all the time". I admit I reacted badly, and without sympathy, just kind of chuckling. He doesnt think I should worry about it because it doesnt affect me until it does.

And then I mentioned (gently for me), that he should suggest Power sulk not burn any bridges with me. I had texted the night before asking about her high school's 40-student art exhibit, and would she be a part of it, as she had been working diligently on a painting and it was to be exhibited "somewhere"...and zero response. I mentioned how that was a sign of disrespect and doesnt it bother him that his "child" was disrespecting his wife. His rejoinder was - wait for it - "All teens are like that!!!"

Well, thats the crux of the "Parent Trap" that Im involved with. Teens do this or that, and the JOB of the PARENT is to correct this or that. Whatever negative behavior that "teens always do" should be called out, and addressed, rather than swept under the rug.

I tried appealing to his greater sensibility - "ok, so its a TEEN THING, dont you want her to do better and be better for the future?"

Nope, theres nothing he can do....and I dont know what its like because never had a child (just had to deal with his 2 for 10 years...)

I chuckled "oh yes, stepparents the world round get to hear that - its like you bioparents all read from the same playbook!!!" and on it went...

I had fun pushing the buttons...we brought up my disengagement...to his credit he is encouraging it..."you need to let things gooooooo" yes, I do until it affects me. Like when we are trying to get somewhere and have to wait on skid. Like if I want time with husband we have to schedule around her schedule, and that kind of thing affects me, otherwise "meh not my circus".

Powersulk slunk in later that evening, having gotten a ride from a friend.

I just love sharing this stuff!

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ImperfectlyPerfect's picture

@Clove the texting response back will NOT get better as they get older if DH does not correct it now. However, this might be teaching you to stop caring about anything at all. You were trying to show kindness about her artwork and the show (I am certain this isn't how you would want to spend your time) - very supportive and kind of you. But met with disrespect and garbage right back. Take that trash out and stop putting any energy into this SKID. I sometimes "think" about saying something nice or doing something nice...then I remeber how they give a rat's arse about me and only realize I exist when they need something. 

CLove's picture

There are 39 other high school students and I will show up for THEM. 

Yeah. This was the death by a thousand cuts 10 thousandth cut. Im out.

But I do want husband to understand why I will not be paying half mortgage if she "decides" to stay past May...2024 

ImperfectlyPerfect's picture

Showing up for the 39 high school students - for background are you a teacher or work/collaborate with these students in some way that has built a connection to feel tied to the art show? Or maybe this is an ultra talented youth art group? Or maybe this is an alma mater that you went to and have some legacy / memories here? I can read a lot of passion and strong connection to these 39 students in your response. 

If you simply love this art show that's perfectly fine too. I found that when my SKIDs were in school and they had activities that they actively mistreated me or ignored me somehow it drew me closer to wanting to show my passion, loyalty and love for the program. For me, I was pouring my care and love wherever I could since it was being actively rejected. Very well may not be your case.

...I am reading below your response to ESMOD - so you are an active community member. That's great! I still wonder if maybe things are heightened because of your SD rejection and I wonder if it might be good to flat out disengage completely. Based on what you wrote below I do feel my example of trying to find a spot to pour care and love when you've been outright rejected may be going on. VERY fair if that is the case and yes, be good for her to leave the home at least by time trade school, college or other comes along. 

CLove's picture

And YES AGAIN, I am determined to pour my love, energy, time and $$ into places that I will feel good about doing so.

ImperfectlyPerfect's picture

Totally get IT. This makes sense and I understand exactly where you are coming from. 

ESMOD's picture

I have to point out again.. you are not disengaging.

Unless your DH beer schedule is impacting YOU.. why do you care whether he goes after he picks up his child?  It's actually very common for parents to deal with their kid's transportation needs and work their discretionary (beer drinking) appointments around those things.  I don't see anything wrong with what he did. .. or her.. asking for a ride.. dad says yes.. no problem there.

Why did you poke the bear on that art project? Why do you care?   I mean.. what was the reason why you had to indpendently pick your phone up and choose to send her a text about something that wasn't vital to your own life..  And.. not responding.. when she seems to view you as the boot in her butt.. and probably took your email as "nagging" about something you thought she should be doing.. that she may not be as interested in doing.. or answering a bunch of questions about... so she ignored it.  or maybe didn't know the answer or if there was an answer to what you were asking.. maybe her project was already rejected.. who knows.  BUT.. the bottom line is this was not something you NEEDED to know.

And.. you are coming off as petty.. pushing buttons.. being an AH?  I get that you are very hurt by what you see as your Skid's rejection and lack of loyalty to you.. despite all the wonderful things you have tried to do for her.. but being a jerk to your SO and her don't make you even.. it makes you down at their level.. maybe lower in some ways.. because some of what they did to you was probably not meant personally.. what you are doing IS mean and personal.

I don't think you are a mean person.. but what you are doing is... I think you really need to take a giant step back and try to accept your SD is what she is.. your SO is her parent.. and that you don't have the control or connection you thought you did with her.. and at this point.. you are keeping yourself in a place of "misery" by not just getting over it.. and leaving it in the past.

CLove's picture

While I respect your thoughtful input, I respectfully disagree.

Perhaps my description was off. 

I WAS impacted by his beer schedule. My funds are low, its his turn to buy groceries and sundries, and I was hungry. A later schedule caused by skid impacted my dinner schedule, causing me to have my own repast of small canned soup and salad, rather than a full meal including some chicken or steak. I disengage until it affects me. Her social schedule affected me.

As to the art project - there are 40 students from her school, she was chosen among them, and I support the community arts where and when I can, sharing on social media and showing up. The gallery owners are friends of mine, in my old town, and Ill probably show up for them all. Im disengaged until it affects me - how exactly is this thing supposed to work? Who is going to be there? Are the students? Is she? its a bit of a drive, for non driving person such as herself, will she go with us or is she staying at her mothers? Husband and I should go to support his child, and she should be there to recieve her recognition. IMO. So - am I driving separately? Are we going together? I didnt ask any of these questions, simply asked if she was involved in xyz gallery exhibit of 40 highschool students. There was no nagging, she worked to complete a project independently, and I merely observed from sidelines as it was happening. i put the two things together and asked for confirmation of the connection.

Independently of her I will go. Its on a Saturday so I will be planning around it. If husband goes fishing because no plans were discussed "oh well!"

Being mean? Husband needs a knock to the head. I was gentle. Lowering myself? Oh heck no, I am pointing things out so in the future I can explain myself as "I am disengaged, I cannot continue living with disrespectfu brat, I mean power sulk". Just laying groundwork that I am justified in renting the room out or using for storage/guest, without any backlash. If she doesnt want to text  a response, well thats considered disrespectful and should be corrected. Consider that she would never do that to bio parents. 

Rather than lowering myself, I am displaying my higher standards and making it known thats not acceptable. Burned bridges. Death by a thousand cuts. Ive been learning and growing from reading and sharing. So, no I am not being mean. I am however dripping with sarcasm today.

ESMOD's picture

driving his kid is his responsibility... going to drink with his buddy is what caused him to not fulfill an obligation to you moreso than some transportation issue.

RE that art thing.. great.. you know the owners.. you will be going regardless.. is it THIS weekend?  if so.. the question is "are you going to go to the art show this weekend and do you need us to give you a ride because I will be going"  or better.. her dad asks her what her transport needs are this weekend.. and you and he coordinate.

and.. you wanted to know about her involvement.. not some logistics.. I don't think she wants to share things with you like that now.. there is some history with you.. and I don't think she feels like confiding in you..

Please back off and let her just deal with her dad.. and you can insist he fulfill obligations to YOU .. like getting you groceries.. before he goes off drinking with his buddy.. 

ESMOD's picture

I can see wanting to go and support an event at a close friend's art gallery.. but those 39 kids don't generally "care" if Clove's stepmom shows up.. they are at the self absorbed "peer centric" time in their life.. they like attention for their talent.. I'm sure.. but it's amazing how teens don't "see" adults.. as a 30 or 40+ year old woman.. you are irrelevant to them.. unless you are doing something FOR them that they think is an immediate benefit.

ImperfectlyPerfect's picture

This about teens is correct- they really don't see adults and are self absorbed. My inquiry above is whether CLove might be taking her awesome warmth and goodness and trying to find an avenue to redirect it after it was so openly rejected by her SD. Frankly, it's extremely painful and horrible when a stepmom does a gesture of good will and SKID rejects- after years and years, the stepmom typically gives up. That might be where CLove is at - a final attempt and another rejection too many. 

CLove's picture

Ive decided to pour myself into other things where I feel they would at least be appreciated, instead of just being used.

ImperfectlyPerfect's picture

yes, very painful experience CLove - I have been there. Hang in there and know that you are not alone. The constant negativity and rejection is terrible and its mean. 

CLove's picture

Wanna go with? Biggrin

Right it was open ended question on purpose. Nope shes not responding to a very basic text (vs confiding), which will definitely make me rethink if I feel like responding to any of her texts in the future...

CLove's picture

too insane for bimper stickers

advice.only2's picture

I get in my car and start my journey home from work.

Husband texts me "Im going to have a beer with Barnical Buddy".

I ask "is SD17 Powersulk with us tonight?"

Husband "yes, I pick her up at 6:30, shes with friends"

I chuckle "Have fun, see you tonight."

He gets home at 8, Ive already eaten. Hes shopped. No skid as he walks in the door.

We discuss. "How was beer with friend?", “That’s great glad you had a good time, I’m going to bed, good night.”

Aniki-Moderator's picture

CLove, there simply is NO appealing to his greater sensibility because he has NONE.

Husband texts "Im going to have a beer with Barnical Buddy".

CLove texts "Okay."

Husband walks in alone. 

CLove "Hi."

 

Even your H says you need to let it go. If you want time with him, tell him you want to go on a date and to let you know when he's available. You fell off of the Disengagement Wagon and Powersulk is your proverbial alcohol. Get back on that wagon.

CLove's picture

Im considering if I even want to continue being married. Hes got his wife barnical buddy and I am the afterthought sidepiece. its bigger and deeper than just power sulk.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

Yep. Mrs Barnacle Butthead with CLove on the side. No sex is good enough to tolerate that caca. {{hugs}}

Rumplestiltskin's picture

I get that you want PS to care about you and you want to be involved in her life. But she's a little sh!t who only cares about herself. Many of us were as teens and hopefully she will grow out of it but right now, you have the little sh!t. Don't engage with her.

Your DH cares most about his own comfort. His beer drinking, and making life as easy as possible for himself. He also wants to have a good relationship with his daughter but lacks the brain power and non-laziness to do anything but react when she asks him for something. He is unwilling or unable to proactively manage that relationship. Not ideal soul-mate material, but again, that's what you've got. That's what i've got, too, and trust me it makes me want to lash out often. And sometimes i do, too. It is what it is. We have to focus on ourselves. We've been told that self-absorption is a bad trait, but it's the only way to survive a step nightmare with a lazy bastard.

I've had about the same day you have lol. Hugs. We mean well. We have to take care of ourselves. Don't slow down to look at the wreck and for God's sake, don't comment on it!

ETA self-absorption is not the ONLY way. Leaving takes care of the problem. But only you know when you are ready to give up and call it a day. The sunk cost fallacy is hard to get past. 

Rumplestiltskin's picture

My SO is also very easily distracted. It's me who can't let things go. I can let them go if the offending behavior has stopped, but when it keeps happening, that's when i struggle. 

Aniki-Moderator's picture

I know a variety of ways to distract my DH. But sexy time in this situation would be a major Hell No.

AgedOut's picture

"less is more" 

I ask "is SD17 Powersulk with us tonight?"

Husband "yes, I pick her up at 6:30, shes with friends"

 

You "ok. but don't forget I'm waiting for you for supper. What are you thinking we'll have?"

 

stop there, less is more.

 

then: I had texted the night before asking about her high school's 40-student art exhibit, and would she be a part of it, as she had been working diligently on a painting and it was to be exhibited "somewhere"...and zero response

 

ok, you asked. she ignored. not your issue. if you want to go to support the other artists and your friends, go. Have a blast. But don't ask her twice. 

 

Less is more. 

 

Less.

Is.

More.

 

 

 

CLove's picture

I did in fact mention my hunger and that he would be arriving on the late side, but her "joy" supercedes everything else. He eventually got tired of waiting around for her and she had to get a ride (30 mins 1 way) from her friend. We ended up having a nice evening and I got a bit of steak...

Nope, havent texted her again since...and will happily make my plans to attend...shes on her own.

ESMOD's picture

he was drinking beer with his buddy.. hardly languishing and "tired of waiting".. really.. he was fine with it.

StepUltimate's picture

Don't let her hit you up for a ride home if you DO run into her at the gallery. She's a user!

CajunMom's picture

Regardless of the reasons. After the last troubles with PS17, you should not be texting this girl. AT ALL.  Need info on the art exhibit? Call the studio where it's being held. Let your DH handle the dynamics of that visit with his kid; you make your own plans to support the community and other kids. The beer schedule impacts finances, not him scheduling around his kid's social life. THAT is the issue to deal with...the money. And while sarcasm has it's place, it still keeps you engaged in the "SK" issues. 

I'm speaking from experience...I stayed engaged WAY too long and learned my lesson the hard way. My mental health took one hell of a hit. So, if I were in your shoes, DH would get the "we are now short X dollars because you chose to drink at the bar rather than pick up a 6 pack for home." "I am going to attend the high school art department's student exhibit at X Gallery on X date at X time. I might see you there if you go with SD17."  Then you let it go and let HIM deal with his kid.

Hang in there, CLove....it does take a while to completely disengage. Maybe mediatate on some of the comments here on disengaging and do some thinking about how you can do different in the future. Best to you.

CLove's picture

Yes, you are right. What the heck was I thinking anyway.

We have separate finances, so I cant take that approach.

I think hes planning on fishing anyway...

Rumplestiltskin's picture

And do NOT drop or alter any plans at the last minute to bring her there! One of the reasons i would get so mad at my SO for keeping me in the dark about his kids was that he would then need me to drop everything and babysit or transport either his kids or his brothers'. I'm not that sucker anymore. Just because i like to be home, doesn't mean i want to be anyone's beck and call babysitter or taxi. Or, most recently, pet hotel. 

CLove's picture

He will twist himself into a pretzel to figure out transport. Barnacle Buddy (not me) is sometimes his go to. That transport thing stopped a while ago.

AlmostGone834's picture

Every time she does something like this tell your husband "SD did X. It's Y and I'm not living with her"

Ex: 

"SD didn't text me back. It's rude and I'm not living with her"

"SD forgot to clean up her dishes. It's frustrating and I'm not living with her."

"SD is failing. It's ridiculous and I'm not living with her"

"SD won't get a job. It's lazy and I'm not living with her"

Repeat, repeat, repeat. Completely shut down your relationship with her. No text, nothing beyond a civil hello and goodbye. No favors. Change the subject when he brings her up (unless he's complaining about her then see above... "Right DH. And it's Y and this is another reason why I'm not living with her"). Remind your DH every chance you get that you don't get along. 
 

I let DH know periodically that I will never live with LI again. It leads to arguments. Its damaging to our (mine and LI's) relationship. It is damaging to our (mine and DH's) relationship. I am set in my ways and we have different ideas of "clean". I enjoy a quiet house. I can't abide disrespectful behavior (even normal sassy teenage stuff). Having another adult in the house is uncomfortable. She destroys stuff/"she doesn't have an appreciation for antiques". I don't trust her not to burn the house down while cooking/"I don't like other women in my kitchen".

I also throw in other subtle comments like "Oh she would be bored stiff living in the middle of nowhere (and by that I mean here). She's always lived in the suburbs...." Or "Well at her age you know, friends, boyfriends and her peers (you know the connections she has down there) are the most important things." or "Remember how she hated driving in the snow? Yeah a lot of people don't want to deal with that..." ect ect.

 

CLove's picture

Ive been prepping this for a little while now.

"You KNOW shes not choosing you over toxic troll shes wanting to be with her FRIENDS"

"She has a nice little community over there in Beach Town"

"I just saw this ad for traveling nurses looking for a furnished room for rent"

"Rents are sky high everywhere around us, we can make some decent $$$$! cover mortgage and pop taxes!!!!"

Harry's picture

What ever yiu said was wash down with the beers.   If he doesn't gave tge money he should not be drinking.  He has a problem. 
'You should be disengage from SD   She treats you like shi*.   If you want to take the time and go to the art thing. Go.. But don't go to support SD. She doesn't support you, actually doesn't respect you,  

yes, she most likely mentally screw up like BM.  But that doesn't equal lack or respect.