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O/T Mental Health at work aka the Levee Burst

CLove's picture

As the storms have been waging battle here in California, I have been glued to weather reports. Discussion at work has centered on weather, and its effect on our industry - agriculture. Entire towns underwater.

Last week, a levee near to my work, already struggling to keep together, broke, flooding an adjacent town. My co-worker, kind of a crusty salty ag guy on the precipice of retirement, has been evacuated now for 10 days. I keep my distance from him, since he has not been that nice to me for whatever reason. Now, of course, seeing his stress over the evacuation, and having been on the recieving end of his impatience, I am seeing his mental health decline and a sort of nervous energy aura around him.

Hes been bantering with his protege non-stop for a year now, and hes still continuing, but under the surface I can see the cracks appearing, much like those in the levee that just broke.

Today it happened. He got triggered by a comment made by Golden One protege, and went OFF. I heard the eff word a lot, and yelling and just kind of sat there thinking "I knew this would happen..."

It just made me think that mental health and the workplace is really not talked about or addressed enough. Even now, as things are improved, there still needs to be a LOT more progression. We arent emotionless machines. I had a bit of a breakdown last year, and really tried to shift things since then. Ive done a great turnaround of a work situation that was making me miserable. And watching my co-worker (who is an assistant manager and making close to 6 figures so he can affford therapy but is too crusty and old-school to consider it) crack under the pressure of his stress, it makes me think about mental health in the workplace.

Just throwing some thoughts out there. Im safe and sound in my home a few towns over, but theres an entire town of dis-placed people suffering just a block away from me here at my desk at work.

*** Edited to add new detail ***

This crusty assistant manager - hes done this before - blasting out about nothing - but what makes me sit up and take notice is that at the end of the day, when Golden One protegee and I were speaking of it (he was in shock and he needed to talk it out...) GO mentioned a comment this Salty Guy made as regards guns and ukrain and shooting people at war being better than being evacuated from his home.

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Exjuliemccoy's picture

Your poor coworker. I hope he hasn't lost everything, as so many have.

Weather fatigue is real - at least for those of us used to living in a mild climate. I feel depressed and frustrated, being forced everyday to look at the damage these storms have caused yet knowing realistically nothing can be done until things dry out. Ugh.

CLove's picture

I do empathise with his current stress of not being in his home. The water went up as far as the steps to his house. He knows this due to drone footage. The garage is severely damaged. He rents from a family member.

I think his outburst was a conglomeration of different things related to this. A week of this, and the whole thing was preventable and they arent handling it right.

cold gray weather fatigue. I am having that too! Where is that ray of sunshine? I try to stay away fromthe news, instead focusing on my daily commute - one landslide and its another 3 hours in the car...

Exjuliemccoy's picture

Last Friday was a PERFECT Spring day, a gift and a promise of better days ahead. I was able to accomplish some things outside, which made me feel better.

Hang in there, cLove.

Livingoutloud's picture

Living in a rough climate isn't easy. We never know when is the next ice or snow storm or flood going to hit. Just last month we had people without power over a week in the middle of winter and many couldn't even get into their yards or garages because of fallen power lines. Cant get your car either. 

poor people who get displaced/had to evacuate. It's too hard!

I do feel that mental health at workplace is being addressed. Many insurances cover mental health concerns and if not then most bigger employers offer mental health assistance. Many employers offer workshops and PDs on mental health. And people can read. Info is everywhere 

Yes many people refuse to seek therapy or even acknowledge importance of mental health. I don't think it's due to society not addressing it. In my experience it has been sufficiently addressed for many decades.
 

Some people still live in the past, so to speak, when therapy was shameful or not spoken about. Or some believe they just don't need it. Much of it just comes from upbringing.
 

Education is the key. More educated people become more likely they to seek and accept help. By education I don't just mean get degrees, but developing overall well rounded worldly views on life. 

 

CLove's picture

During this period of evacuation, he has mentioned guns and ukrain and shooting people. This was told to me at the end of the day, from the Golden One protegee. 

I reported it to my boss the manager. He doesnt seem to think there is anything to worry about.

JRI's picture

I live in St. Louis, in the Mississippi Valley.  I was working during our disastrous floods in the 90's.  Unbelievable scenes.  I didn't have family flooded out but some of the co-workers and some of their families were.  Clothing drives. Food drives.  Tragic stories.

A nearby riverside community with a long flood history built a big levee which has been effective.  Result:  a downriver community now floods more often.  Sigh...

 

Patience2000's picture

Several of you mentioned that some old crusty people refuse therapy. Where you live you may have access to mental health. I do not. I am old and crusty, and I would have loved to have had someone to talk to when,  A. A flood took 2/3 of our property in 2020 B. my dear father died in 2021 and C. my adult SD, well, is a SD and you all can relate. So please don't lump us all into one category. The largest town over has grief therapy, but only for children, I tried the local church that has therapy but it was only for Catholics. I tried local therapists, but there are only three and they had a waiting list. I found some online resources, but there you go. I hope you can reach out to your coworker and give him some peace.

Livingoutloud's picture

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Yes it's very important to have people for support. It's a shame that local church wasn't helpful. Are there no other denominations in the area (if you are a church goer)? Typucsly religious institutions are helpful in times like this 

Seeking mental health support has nothing to do with "old and crusty" though. The issue is a mind set, not age. Some young people live in the past and if they grow up in the family where mental health was a taboo, they'd live in the same manner. There are some 20 year olds who think it's a woman's job to raise children, cook and clean. So being stuck in the past is not the issue of age. 

Yes some areas don't have as many resources. It would be a great topic for a thread about discrepancies in quality of medical care and education in various regions 

classyNJ's picture

Since my job (insurance) and home are in the shore towns of Jersey, we are highly stressed especially thru hurricane season.  

If we get a bad storm, we work 24 hours a day, sleeping in shifts since we need to help our clients thru it.  It's hard when the older folks who were on the islands and have homes that have passed down from generation lose everything all the while trying to relocate ourselves and our families. I have seen more than a few break and it is not pretty.

Our company provides the wellness programs and have counselers come in during those times to help us work thru the issues.  Sometimes it helps and sometimes we just don't have the time to take to sit down with them and talk it out.  But we need to take our mental health in our own hands.  Having family, friends and co-workers support is utmost as well.

Some like your co-worker just don't realize how much stress they are under until they break.  We all think we can handle it, but ignore the warning signs.

I hope your co-worker finds peace and is back in his home as soon as possible. 

Livingoutloud's picture

There's a lot of research done on impact of various events on people's mental health and overall state of their emotions. Natural disasters along with house fires and floods are actually considered similar to wars in regards to impact on humans' psyche. Even though talking about Ukraine and guns seems to be hysterical exaggeration, this guy might not be that far off comparing the impact of these events on people's well being. Actually house fire has been always compared to surviving war conflicts by the intensity of long term emotional damage 

CLove's picture

Thank you for your well-presented input.

AlmostGone834's picture

I saw that story about the town on the news. I'm so sorry. We just had that huge snowstorm (and thankfully entire towns were not destroyed) at Christmas and I feel so bad for you guys out there. I'm glad you're safe Clove. These extreme weather events are wreaking havoc in this country. 
 

As for mental health in the workplace, I feel like everything just moves way too fast these days. With phones, email etc we are always connected to our job and can't ever slow down. Everything has to be done like yesterday and it's exhausting.

CLove's picture

I complain about my commute but not too loudly because I have my home.

So I tip toe around hoping to not make anyone mad.

But my co worker - he jokes about it (the one who cracked) and so everyone things hes cool with things, but hes not...as we found out.

strugglingSM's picture

I'm just returning to work from materntiy leave. DH has not been working for months and finally got a temp job that is 2 hours away from our home, so I'm essentially solo parenting an infant and a toddler during the week. And I'm trying to manage some health-related issues for my infant that will require multiple appointments over the next few weeks. All that is to say, my mental health struggle is real right now. One of the few benefits to my job is that it is flexible and I fly under the radar a bit, so I'm trying to take advantage of that and ease myself back into a full time schedule.

I'm also in charge of HR in my current role and we've had several people take mental health leave...one person for nearly two years. It's good to work at a place that allows us that flexibility and allows us to be our authentic selves who sometimes need to dial back a bit, but it still feels precarious...and on a personal level, it feels weird to share so much about myself with coworkers...that is now how I was raised.  

CLove's picture

Wow! I cant imagine how hard things are right now.

I hope the temp job leads to something else more permanent and closer to home.

Rags's picture

and emotional illness these days is still a hard thing for me to work around.  I never remember this being a thing even 10 years ago.

My former #2 shared fairly frequently and broadly that he was "on the spectrum" , meducated for addiction, and medicated for emotional health issues.  I firmly believe he was bi-polar. Technical skill wise, he was outstanding. However, he was poison to relationships and to the cultural dynamics in my business.  If he had not transferred, it would have cost him his job. I had initiated terminal disciplinary action when my then boss interceded and transferred him.

My new #2 is technically more broadly knowledgeable and capable though only incrementally better technically. His soft skills are orders of magnitude better.  All was going great for the first 10wks after he joined my team as my #2. Then we had a couple of very stressful weeks and his medicated anxiety conditon raised it's head.  Before coming to work for me, he worked for my bosses boss. So, when his anxiety overwhelmed him, he called my bosses boss had a manic vent episode and the next chapter of Rags' medicated mentally/emotionally ill #2s drama began.  My two up boss called my boss, groused at him about talking to his people. My boss backed him off by telling him that my #2 is not my bosses employee nor is he my boss's boss's employee.

My boss was in house last week for a day. I had to book some 1:1 time with him to read him into the anxiety condition of my new #2.  I did not violate any confidences by reading my boss in.  My new #2 has repeatedly brought up his condition publically several times since joining my team. My boss did confirm that he suspected though did not know. Now he knows. Apparently by boss reached out to my #2 and coached him to go to me, then to my boss, before going above that level.  Open door policy aside, if we do not know we can't fix a problem. Not communicating is not accepable.

Companies are so terrified of law suits that being able to directly address issues with people identifying as mentally or behaviorally special needs makes being a manager just that much more difficult.  To keep an employer in line when I have been approached to accomodate over stepping behavior by a mentally/emotionally/behaviorally ill employee I have pointed out that failing to deal with these situation creates a hostile work environment and is more of a risk at a broader level than if a "syndrome" afflicted employee takes legal action for disciplinary action.  I have also pointed out that a number of my employees are multiple protected class individuals... including me.

It is interesting how that backs the company off and gets them focused on resolution to the problem rather than accomodating toxic.

I have advised on a number of opportunities to improve the support the revenue generating organziations get from the central support orgs. Not much action yet. But I am hopeful.

I will not accept not managing my business and having to default to HR, Safety, Finance... etc... in decisioning. I engage them, discuss with them, take their expert advice, then I manage my business making the decisions for my business.

So far, it has worked out and the Sr. leaders seem to be appreciated. 

Knock on wood that continues.