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Adult Stepchildren - DOES IT EVER STOP

SM0's picture

I'm married 10 years and have 2 biological daughters from a previous marriage (ages 19 and 21) They have always lived with us - except during school term. During school breaks they return home and when school is out, they come back home. My 3 step children, ages 21, 26 and 28 have NEVER lived with us. Since my husband's divorce 12 years ago they have always lived with their mother out of state. Sometimes my step children come and visit during a school breaks or during holidays.

My 28 year old stepson has , is self supporting, has his undergraduate degree and his own apartment (out of state). He will finish up his Master's in a couple of months and already has a job lined up back in his home state of Texas after graduation. His sister who is 26, also has her own apartment out of state, is self supporting and is working on her PHD. Lately, I have noticed that when they come to visit, they have been leaving "stuff" here. (out of season clothes, boxes of old school work, garbage bags full of old mail (from as far back as 7 years ago), wall hangings, photos, books, even old childhood movie videos and preschool books, etc.) I'm finding old packed and torn boxes and multiple trash bags stuffed with clothes thrown in closets, office, garage, basement and attic. No organization at all. I asked my stepson why are they leaving all this stuff here and he said, because neither of them have the space at their apartment and because they don't have a designated room here. According to him, at their mom's house where they were raised, they each have/had their own bedroom. Since they don't have a designated bedroom to call their own here with me and their dad, they leave their belongings here to make it feel like this is their home too.

My biological daughters have designated rooms here because they have lived in this house with me all of their lives (BEFORE I even met my husband). This is and has always been their home and legal place of residence and it will likely remain that way until they complete their undergraduate studies. My stepchildren have NEVER lived here with us and we don't have 3 extra rooms to be able to designate a specific one for each of them now. We do have a spare guest room and since usually only one stepchild visits at a time (due to schedules, etc) the guest room is where he/she sleeps. If everyone happens to show up at the same time, we work it out by sharing rooms. No one sleeps on the floor or is sent to a hotel. We simply make adjustments to make it work for everyone.

When my stepson moves back to Texas for his new job, he won't be too far from his mother and the home he was raised in. I am told that at one time his mom said "she was tired of taking care of grown folks", so I assume that influenced his decision to move in with his GRANDPARENTS when he returns to work there. Though he will live with his grandparents, he still wants to store his apt furniture, out of season clothes and miscellaneous stuff HERE! We can barely walk in this house now, but he and his dad decided it was perfectly alright - without even giving me a chance to express my concerns. When he decided to inform me of the plans, I told him, NO because our home is becoming too cluttered with their things. I also suggested that he and his sister might consider sharing a storage facility, splitting the cost (though according to dad money is not an issue for them as his daughter supposedly has well over $10k in her personal savings account.) Their dad thinks I'm being unreasonable and doesn't mind all this stock piling of junk in our home.

They consult with their dad and make decisions about what's acceptable in this house without including me on a regular basis - even though they do not live here. I'm just supposed to fall in line with their plans. This has been the pattern for a while now. For example, while visiting over the holidays, my stepdaughter made a last minute request to bring 4 or 5 of her friends to our family holiday diner. Friends no one else has ever even met. This would DOUBLE the number of folks I would have to prepare for and feed. They would show up, eat and leave for a night of partying. She asked her dad if it was ok and he told her YES! Without even asking me what I thought about it. Knowing that I just left the hospital a few days prior. AND knowing that I would be the one to have to do all the cooking and cleaning when she and her friends left. I refused to go buy extra groceries to cook more food for any ADDITIONAL last minute friends. I told my husband I would cook for our immediate family members only (my biological daughters were visiting their grands, so I had only planned for our family of 5. NO ADDITIONS!)

I recently completed treatment for cancer and other associated illness. I am doing well now, but sometimes have issues that stem from the surgery and my body just trying to get back to normal. My patience and energy level is just not quite there for dealing with all this junk in the house, or the inconsiderateness and the emotions of these, educated and supposed to be, independent adults. They are not far from being 30 years old for goodness sake. I have started putting my foot down and I'm saying NO! My husband says he doesn't understand why am not okay with all this. Has anyone else experienced anything similar to this with adult step children? Am I off base on this?

twoviewpoints's picture

There are three of them, correct? Have Dad talk to them about how there just isn't room for the extra storage. Between the three of them they surely can afford one small to medium size storage unit.

Sure, they want all that junk ( Wink ) , at least until they have their own apartments and/or homes and then they will seriously rethink sorting it out as to what can go and what they just must keep (forever and ever *rolls eyes*)

Dad can help them properly pack and the stuff up and move it to the new storage unit. Don't make it about 'this isn't their home', or 'you've never lived here'. No need to go that far. They are welcome to come visit and you enjoy having them, but the stuff just takes up too much needed space considering they are able to come on such a limited time.

If it keeps peace with DH, he can chip in part of the storage unit cost. Who knows, there might be some stuff lurking around in the corner, closets and attics of the house that you and/or your daughters might also store until later.

Seventy-five bucks split three or four ways is pretty cheap to keep your needed space available and your occasional skids feeling like their stuff is safe and being kept for them.

My own youngest (until he and his fiancé bought their house a about four years ago) was not given much of a choice. He was living at home until his DF graduated and they found a house. He paid rent and all that, but I still one day just announced it was time he and DF got a storage unit. He had his hunting and fishing gear, a few nice tables of various types he had purchased from his step-grandpa's auction, beginnings of kitchen household things his DF and he was beginning to buy ect ect ect.

He just took one weekend to sort, properly pack and run my pick-up truck over to the rented storage unit and son and I once again went back to peace and plenty of room.

sammigirl's picture

Have your DH rent a storage unit, close by; move it all out in the unit. Good idea to store some of your own extra stuff too.

still learning's picture

When DH and I first got together he was storing ss's, sil's and exGF's stuff. It was ridiculous and impossible for me to feel comfortable with mountains and rooms of others people's junk all over. I set a boundary that everyone needed to get their stuff in 30 days or it gets donated. ss's got their stuff but sil and exgf's stuff went to a good cause.

How silly that your grown and gone adult skids need to stake their claim in a home that was never theirs to begin with. I couldn't imagine leaving bags of crap at my mothers house. How rude to impose on someone like that.

I'd box it all up and send it to them with a nice note saying, "Thought you'd be missing these." If they get upset just tell them you don't have the space.

**ETA: "his mom said "she was tired of taking care of grown folks"" I agree with his mother, taking care of and having your grown children live w/you is no fun. You're still in that parent/child dynamic. You never get a break and they never really grow up.

BethAnne's picture

Your husband is your problem, not his kids. If he agrees to things without consulting you that is him being out of line. You need to work out how to get him to realize that you deserve equal say in decisions that affect you and your home

Indigo's picture

Agree. DH made unilateral decisions w/o discussing it with his spouse who's daily life would be affected.

So, perhaps, OP can rent a storage unit and move all of the skids belongings into it w/o discussion. Done. Issue resolved. One month paid for and the bill placed on DH's desk.

marblefawn's picture

Yea, this happened to me. I had to get very hard and slap husband with a newspaper every single time he and SD made a decision for which I was not consulted. I was like a broken record, but I brought it up EVERY SINGLE TIME, even when it was a decision that made no difference to me. The point was training him to always say, "Let me check with Marblefawn and get back to you." Magic words: "Let me check with SMO and get back to you." How damn hard is that??????

So SD's stuff is still in my basement 14 months after it appeared without consultation with me. I've decided not to fight that battle yet, especially because I feel the stuff has a glowing future someday being tossed from a window and set on fire...a la Betty Broderick. Damn...that would feel SO GOOD. Especially in these sub-zero temperatures.

I think for you, the fact that your kids lived there might make this storage issue a harder battle to fight - your husband will always throw that out there in an argument. But that's not the point to drive home. The point to drive home is that you should always be consulted about household issues: "You and your kids, who don't even live here, made a decision about something going on in my own house - how do you think that makes me feel? What does that say about my role here?" If you have a track record of always consulting him, throw this in his face, ask him, "Don't I always consult with you about things like this?" and when he concedes that is indeed your record, you then sweetly say, "Great. So when can you get the things moved to the storage unit?"

Right now, you need to have less stress, less to do, and less to clean so you can concentrate on your health. The stuff has to go. And no more dinners unless you invite the skids, that way you will know who is showing up. If your husband gives you any crap, just point out that they bring too many uninvited guests, so until this stops, you must make the invitation to them. Period. No invitation, no skids. They have taken advantage of your kindness, so now you must roll back the open invitations until they learn not to take advantage (just like swatting them with a newspaper!)

My husband has a very loosy goosy way of dealing with his kid and family. I was single for years and had total control of who was rolling through my space. We've both had to give a little. But the bottom line is if you consult with your spouse, there will be no surprises.

I think, given your health history, you really need to lay down the law with some of this stuff that they've all gotten away with for years. Girl, time to let that cancer work for you! You tell him how important a stress-free life is for your continued recovery. Tell him "stress free" for you means knowing who to expect for dinner, knowing what to expect will be stored in your closets, and having some control over your own household.

Stick to your guns on this. You've got too many other things on which to focus. You beat back cancer. I think you can handle these pesky skids!

sandye21's picture

^^^THIS!!^^^ "The point to drive home is that you should always be consulted about household issues" I went through this with my DH also, and at times what he caused by his unilateral decisions was terrible. One example: A contractor who was building a bridge nearby asked him if he could place a 'little bit' of waste material on the lot that I owned. Without consulting me, DH replied, "Sure!" I got home from work to find the entire 1/2 acre lot with a one foot (or more) layer of rock on it. I had to call the county and negotiate with them to remove the rock. I Even had to threaten legal action since they had not asked the legal owner. This kind of thing happened numerous times before I finally told him that I would make all decisions regarding the property that I owned. Period. The reason for sharing this story is to warn you how 'out of hand' the situation can get so you need to address it now.

As far as the house SD had free reign when she visited. I was her cook and maid, scapegoat, emotional punching bag, etc. The day I banned her from my home DH had allowed her and her husband to make Christmas cookies for their friends in the kitchen, using our baking supplies while she and her husband treated me as if I was dog doo. In the end I was screamed at and rated one cookie!

Today we live in a home we both paid for and now we always discuss things that have any effect on our property or our comfort.

If your DH is paying for 1/2 of the living expenses he should be able to invite people over for dinner - as long as he discusses it with you first. But if he is not paying for part of the payment on the house he does not have the right to bring in Skids furniture without discussing it with you. I like the idea of a separate 'man cave' where he could store his kids things inside. Possibly a small out-building he pays for.

I'm also amazed no one helped around the house or cooked meals when you were recuperating from surgery. Disgusting!

pinkb's picture

Been there, done that bought the T-shirt. Same thing happened to me. My DH's sister is the "keeper of the family heirlooms" (i.e. a bunch of crap that everyone is too lazy to go through and throw away). Yes, we have a big house (largely because any money that isn't "tied down" my husband has a habit of spending) and we don't have kids of our own (though it's always a treat when the snotty just-graduated-from-an-expensive-college-while-BM-is-collecting-food-stamps shows up).

SIL moved a bunch of her junk into our basement for "6 months and no more than a year" and then had the nerve to ask us to host the movers when the junk arrived AND ask us to pay for half. She also asked us for a "loan" for "personal reasons" which I was amenable to until my DH decided we should give it to her as a "gift" instead. All while he's still paying off credit card bills with over 20% interest.

After 19 months I had had it. I sent her an amiable email saying "hey, we are going to use the space where your stuff is... when's it convenient for your to collect your things?" Of course, this has made me the *crazy bitch* in the family because "with all that space why can't {you} keep our things"?

BECAUSE YOU ARE A 50+YO WOMAN! GET A STORAGE SPACE, CRAZY!

Take command of your space but do be prepared for the consequences. I never ever thought I would be villianized for not allowing everyone and their brother for using my house as personal storage. Just, "no thank, you"!

And, it just adds more insult to injury that all this is going on while you are trying to get well.

Just say NO!

mro's picture

Okay, playing devils advocate here. I'm assuming it's your house , since you said your girls grew up there. What kind of financial arrangement do you have with your DH? I am in the same situation , since he had to sell his house according to the CO . We want to have our own house together, but haven't found it yet, so we are living in my house. He pays half the expenses and has access to half the house. We share the master bedroom, he gets half of the basement, and half of the garage. He has a man cave ( former dining room turned den) and I have my cave ( spare bedroom). If he wants to store his adult kid's cr@p in his space that's his business. And if I want to store my adult kids' cr@p in my space that's my business. I would draw the line at furniture , since it takes up so much space. It doesn't even make sense for someone to get a truck and move furniture several states away to store. As far as the other stuff, totes are your friend. DH and the "kids " can go buy some , sort their stuff, and store it in his space.

Since you and yours apparently have access to more than half the house, are you paying more than half of the expenses?
Will your kids get the boot on graduation from college? They are adults too.

Regarding preparing a holiday meal two days after you get out of the hospital, whether it's for five or 10, just say no. It's okay to take care of yourself . I agree with the others. Your problem is with your DH. Why would you allow this? Why would he allow this? Does he not know how to cook? How about the other three adults in the home? If not, there's always your local grocery deli/ Boston market / Costco/ Sam's Club for a bulk meal. Even if you prepare the meal, why is it assumed you have to do the cleaning?

twoviewpoints's picture

If I had two adult bio-kids living with me and one adult SD visiting my home... it sure would not have been ME cooking and cleaning the holiday meal.

It was wrong of the OP's adult bio-kids and it was wrong on the SD. The OP had 3 to 8 adult women wanting to be cooked and served. Pfft. Never in my world. Those young ladies would have been cleaning, preparing, grocery shopping. And if not, well I guess there is always a jar of peanut butter in the cupboard and a jar of jam in the fridge while I just go off to my bedroom and rest and relax.

And for what it's worth, the OP's own adult bio-kids should be ashamed of themselves to live with Mommy and not think they had to help and/or completely do for Mom (even without any skids also visiting) in her recuperation period. I'm evil to my adult children, I expect them to act like adults. I'm also 'mean' to minors, you live in the home, you participate in the home's needs. I am no one's maid nor servant, not even my DH's.