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Lillywy00's picture

I've been saying how weak this new generation is. 
 

The young men can barely provide for themselves let alone a wife and kids

The young women have bad attitudes, petty af, and just as trifling. 
 

This is the result of a generation of Disneyparent level coddling/lack of accountability/lack of responsibility, entitlement, and delusions of grandeur

Lillywy00's picture

From my own experience I was very intentional to raise my bio as someone who would be a contributor to society and have basic work ethic 

The Disneyland dad I used to deal with raised lazy, coddled, entitled, demanding spawns

His son is 16 and rather than teach him work ethic he warehouses him (shoves a video game in front of his face all day/night to the point of addiction) all because he "doesn't want to drive him to a job"

Like mf how lazy can YOU be and wonder why your son isn't just as lazy if not lazier because that's what you're teaching him. 
 

Both you and their breeder have cars and you mean to tell me you can't drop him at a JOB a few minutes away?!? So you're raising a male sugar baby?!? 
 

Granted if you really didnt want to take him to a job then let him get paid to cut the neighbors yards, sell bottled water, sell candy, sell t-shirts......something ffs!!!!

so to answer your question about whose skids are these .... those are the Disneyland dads kids 

AlmostGone834's picture

I've said it before and I'll say it again... thank God we're not at war. Can you imagine a draft? Holy he- The fact that we can blow up the planet 10x over with our nuclear supply is the only reason we haven't been invaded. 

Lillywy00's picture

A draft would probably consist of masculine women bc these men too scared 

thinkthrice's picture

Chef hired a 16 yr old kid mid June off of the nextdoor app who was portrayed by his mother as "hardworking."  There was a photo of him pushing a lawnmower.  Chef hired him to help load demolition junk into a dump truck for the day.   

It was unusually warm that day but this kid looked miserable , stopped work every 5 minutes and stopped every time Chef took a business call.  He told Chef "I HATE to sweat!"

We paid him good money for a kid that age.   $200.  Chef told him there was more work if he wanted. 

 He made some  excuse about going to his Dad's for the whole summer and we never heard from him again.   Probably could have hired a local Amish kid for half that, would have done much more work and no b1tching!

AlmostGone834's picture

It's a soul-sucking delicate balance. DH and I have a small business with anywhere from 15-20 people working for us at any given time. It's not a career job but we do have a solid chunk of people who have been working for us for years. We also have people who come and go so I do a lot of hiring (and occasionally firing). It takes the patience of a saint to deal with some people, I swear. I think I've gotten a lot of gray hairs and wrinkles from dealing with the BS people do. 

thinkthrice's picture

Wanted to "give him a chance. "  Chef also accidentally hired a scam artist contractor without telling me.   I caught it just in time to keep from being conned out of thousands. 

Finding help in this welfare state is next to impossible including day laborers bc everyone is paid by government to sit on their brains in front of screens all day.

Cover1W's picture

I work with some really great younger people, but our department hires carefully.  out younger, most recent hire needs some instruction on professional behavior but her manager is on it. I think she'll do well.

Talking with my HR rep recently we got to talking about other things...she said HR is having historically high numbers of interventions with new, young employees right out of college. I think the turnover is very high as a result. So there is a generational difference, and the helicopter parenting, lack of basic skills, covid lack of socialization, etc. Is real.

ESMOD's picture

I read that article and it's unfortunate that these kids have not been better prepared for the realities of working. 

They are the first generation of kids that I can say were probably raised in total participation trophy.. spare their feelings.. self esteem is more important than performance  their whole lives.

The ones that were marginally capable of doing the school work were unchallenged as schools put all their energies into getting even the lowest performing kids to try to pass the competency exams that dictated their school standing.  They learned they did not have to put much effort out.. since things were dumbed down to a much lower common denominator.  Neither of my skids had to try in school.. they were naturally smart enough to pass most everything they needed to... and often were smarter than their actual teacher. (the conversations with my DH about their workpapers being wrong.. but my DH telling me that they didn't have to put the right answer down.. but only the answer the teacher thought was right).

I would also kind of blame the fact that many of them developed poor "work hygiene habits" because of the pandemic... things like needing to be on time.. and productive went by the wayside.

And.... I have seen a trend of people who are younger wanting to cherry pick their work... they only want "meaningful" work.  but employers have work that needs to get done.. not all of it is super exciting.. and guess what?  as the new guy, you are going to bear the brunt of that boring stuff.. and in the end... that's also how you end up gaining experience.. showing initiative.. doing all the things that will EARN you higher work.

News flash that your "education" has not prepared you for real life.. for real work.. you don't come out of college with much value.. other than a sponge that can soak up new processes.. produce more output for them.. your degree may get you in the door.. but your case study work in college was not real life and the value of your opinions is marginal at the entry stage.. it's a time to keep your mouth shut.. ears open and nose to the grindstone.. not fun... not sexy.. but that's how it goes.. expecting everyone to see your talent as miraculous like your mom and dad did?  haha. sorry to disappoint.

 

Lillywy00's picture

I read that article and it's unfortunate that these kids have not been better prepared for the realities of working. 
 

unfortunate but is it shocking though?

Just in these forums alone .... there is no shortage of "gentle" parenting and then these people wonder why their kids don't want to work .... well coddle a kid from 0-17 why expect anything different after this?!?

 

****Beware of locking in with a partner with lazy under 17 year old kids bc 18+ hits and most likely that pattern is what will play out

Little Type Amy's picture

I will raise my hand too at this time on behalf of SD29 , mostly due to the lack of consistent discipline & motivation, ,lack of  and the challenge in accepting feedback   She tends to display such an  emotional reaction to everything , as if the universe has something against her so can't take any constructiive critcism since her  feelings are that fragile

. Its not surprising that she still has no job or has accomplished any goals since she ( also in classic BM fashion) just gives up too quick and doesnt follow through on anything.

I want to say she falls back like that since its the easy way out to just keep being Broken and playing the poor me victim card  with a codependency problem to be handled like she is made of glass , since putting in effort to make it in life  on her own is asking too much. She is in this constant state of being in defeat and  learned helplessness claiming its because she "doesnt have options like anyone else" so she doesnt bother to try. 

Yet, she laments all the time on how she aspires to live more comfortably financially and have the things that DH and I have ( a good home in a safe neighborhood, a car, etc) All things that we actually have had to WORK for ( which she fails to do) and it didnt fall in our laps out of the sky or come easily for us. 

The girl can't even handle her own affairs let alone a steady job, like staying dedicated to  apartment hunting enough for a better place,since she is disastifed with what she has,  or for any task that she knows she can and needs to complete. In her words, she requires to have "Company: for everything. Its like she struggles to do much of anything like an adult without expecting everyone to hold her hand  and baby her.  and have others validation and even Pity every step of the way. 

She can't even handle going to tutoring sessions to prepare to take the GED to at least get some more of an education so she could improve her chances. . She just blames her genes. She also still cites  BM for not giving her a ride to those courses as a reason why she had yet after many  many years and chances to complete that. Nevermind the fact that I know she lives in an area where public transport is an option .she knows damn well what Uber is and has a DL .  The takeway is that the excuses never stops and it doesnt look too good for her in life..it also makes her generation look really  bad too. 

ESMOD's picture

Rags,  I'm pretty well educated (business degree plus a masters) and my brother was also college educated.. my parents both had advanced degrees.. from harvard.   But my dad, who was a big proponent of me getting my education, would be the first to tell you that the value of degrees.. the quality of the education and the real experience of accomplishment is well diminished for most.

I would also point out that the vast majority of degreed individuals will work for other degreed individuals, it's not as if you will necessarily have a super great chance of being one of those lofty exec suite denizens.  People who end up at the highest levels of performance.. and those that start those billion dollar companies often are the beneficiaries of the intersection of luck.. and preparedness.. maybe with a sprinkle of privilege wealth to underpin.

I would say that in the trades.. a lot of the people who run/start those companies do not have formal degrees, but they often have certifications etc.. I actually think that right now, being in a trade field of work is probably one of the more attainable ways for people to be their own boss.. have their own company.. and generate their own wealth.  On our recent cruise in the Norweigan Haven, it was almost as many business people as it was those who owned their own fire suppression companies.. plumbing.. hvac etc..   

I think at one time, getting your degree did show that you were capable of completing a goal, but the cost of those degrees now is difficult to swallow.. and critical thinking can be developed, but if you don't have the underpinning mind.. they aren't really working on that too much any more. 

Do I think a degree is worthless? no.. but it is "worth less" than it was decades ago.  If you want to go into the corporate grind.. you will probably need one to rise above certain levels.. 

What I would advocate is people working while getting their degree.. like my YSD is doing, where her company pays her back for all her classes.  She has actually risen to management ranks without a degree.. so it's not impossible to get ahead without one... but I do think it's a good thing to have as long as you aren't racking up a half a million dollars on that basket weaving degree.

Again.. for some people, they will still get value out of their degrees.. but there are also a lot of people that aren't coming out of college with the critical thinking skills necessary to succeed.. hence the people posting that they should be getting "time blindness" accomodations and showing up for corporate interviews in shorts.  

The reality is most people won't become billionaires... many will not even be able to aspire to being multi millionaires.. most people will work for other people.. college is no longer a golden ticket to a great career.. shoot, 30 years ago when I had my freshly minted business degree, I struggled to find an entry level corporate job.. though with time, I found my groove (and a masters degree along the way).  But, I am not sad if someone wants to go to work, to learn a trade and possibly be their own boss one day, they may learn a lot of lessons on self reliance and dedication that we just don't see at the universities any more.