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Sadielady's picture

This weekend is Thanksgiving in Canada. DH and I are hosting my family for dinner on Saturday. DH's sister is hosting dinner for their family as well. And we haven't been invited . This is a first and I'm thrilled about it. It means there's no decision for us to make and no guilt or second thoughts about that decision. It means a peaceful gathering with my extended family without the backdrop of DH's family drama. 
But DH is sad about it. The last time he communicated with his family (his uncle), he said he just wanted everyone to leave him alone. So I guess they are. But they're doing it in a shitty way. If I were in their shoes, I would have told him where TG dinner was going to be this year (they take turns in his family) amd make it clear that he is wanted there and will be missed, but also put zero pressure on him to attend Nd and let him know I understood why he wouldn't be there. Their toxic way of handling this is "you want to be left alone? Okay f-you". He's slowly coming to terms with who they are, but it's really hard to watch. 
 

Quick update on engagement party fall out: both DH and I gave statements to police about his ex's behaviour and we were told that she would be contacted and "cautioned" on criminal harrassment and lying to police. I'm waiting for a copy of the police report for more specifics. 

 

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advice.only2's picture

While I understand your DH being sad he did ask for them to leave him alone and they are complying.  I mean are they supposed to extend the invitation knowing most of them are blocked, just so he can respond with, “what part of leaving me alone don’t you understand?”  While his feelings are valid he does need to address and accept that they are complying with his own wishes, and if that upsets him then he needs to consider if he truly wants to be left alone, or if he wants the ability to pick and choose how he is involved with the family.

Rumplestiltskin's picture

They sent the cops to his house as punishment for skipping a party. He told them to leave him alone, and they did. It's a win as far as i'm concerned. But, if he's going to hem and haw and be sad about it, maybe he needs to do some soul-searching and make a decision. Then own his choice. I'm sick of these weak men who let their wives and exes and kids fight it out while they wring their hands and feel special. If he had taken any control at all of the situation in the past and set boundaries, BM would not have felt empowered to do what she did. IMO. 

Sadielady's picture

I agree that DH has dropped the ball with his family in the past. And I agree that he can't be surprised by their behaviour now. But that doesn't mean he can't be sad about it. I've never regretted my decision to leave my forst marriage, but that doesn't mean that I didn't curl up and cry in the process. I think it's reasonable for him to be sad. And I think his family's response (or lack thereof) was to be expected. My point about how I would have handled it (by letting the person know that I understand that they need space and that I'm here when there ready) is just that. It's how I would handled it. 

advice.only2's picture

Well of course he is allowed to be sad, and ideally it would be nice for them to address this and “leave the door open” so to speak, but it’s obvious these are not the kind of people who do that.  He should look into what his grief really means, is he sad because of what he thought he lost, or is he sad because he’s realizing what he never had.

Rumplestiltskin's picture

I understand him being sad and I understand your feelings of needing to defend him. I don't want you to feel like you have to defend him here, too. I think maybe the victim/defender thing is a pattern you guys have fallen into. It's weird that BM also seems to feel a need to defend him. Calling the cops was ridiculous, though. Did she think you had him chained to the floor? I don't mean to sound harsh, but reading all that you have been through makes me mad. Mad for you, that you are being treated the way you are by his family. I hope your DH feels half as protective toward you as you do toward him. 

Sadielady's picture

I appreciate you saying that. I come to this site because I worry about burning my friends and family out with all of this drama. I have many supportive people in my life but it can't be all about me and about this all the time. But I'm ambivalent about this site because when I blog, I'm looking for people who can relate to what I'm saying. People who will understand how complicated and multilayered these issues are. And, instead, I often (not always) feel like my actions are criticized and my intentions are being challenged. 

ESMOD's picture

I do just want to chime in because I think you may be thinking about some of my comments.  I don't doubt that your intentions have been honorable in your attempts to protect your husband and defend your relationship. 

And.. yes step life can be very complex.. and easy to say and do things that end up not improving the situation (as you, yourself said about your message to your SIL.. you said that you probably messed up.. it's easy to mess up in a mine field).  

So cautioning about potential blow back.. encouraging paths that have our spouses step up.. stepping back and not participating.. are all meant as helpful and ways that you could make your life nicer.. easier.. simpler.  That is the intent.. and hope that we can all learn from our experiences.. and learn how to live our lives in the most drama free way.  for you that would mean less contact with his family for you...let your DH deal with them if and when he wants to.. because they clearly are misinterpreting so much of what you have tried to do... which actualy has not 100 percent worked in your favor.  But.. sometimes there are no good solutions.. so you do what you think is best.. and hope for the best. 

Personally.. I would rather not knock myself out trying to "help".. when the likelihood of it working out is so low.. I would put my energies in other directions.. and hopefully enjoy a more peaceful life..

I'm sorry your DH is sad.. and I hope he does not come to the point where he puts estrangement on your shoulders.. because that often happens to partners like us.. we get blamed for their estrangement from their family.. despite all attempts to actually help. I'm not saying it IS your fault.. clearly he has his own issues and ones with his family.. but sometimes people look for a scapegoat.. and right now.. unfortunately.. you could end up in that spot..even though he welcomed your assistance.  (that's why advice to back off is really hoping to help you..lol).

Sadielady's picture

Thank you ESMOD. I have definitely become the family scapegoat but not my DH's (although I understand how that can happen and it's a fear I've often voiced in our marriage therapy). Interstingly, DH has scapegoated an aunt who has been particularly nasty and I caution him against  focusing on her and letting the rest of the family off the hook. He so wants to believe that his family isn't capable of everything they've done, but he also knows that there's no denying facts. 
 

I'm fully detached from the family, and have been since March. The only one I was still attempting to have a relationship with was SS and that was because he was making an effort (in a very Eddie Haskle way mind you). As predicted, he directed his engagement party anger at me and accused DH of choosing me over him. DH, finally, acknowledged that he did and does choose me over everyone else, just as he expects that SS will choose his wife-to-be over everyone else, and just as SD chose her husband (which is what started this whole mess, and which has been supported by the whole family). SS didn't like hearing that message, but he's heard it. I've not reached out to SS at all and I don't intend to. He knows where to find me. I don't know what the future holds for DH and his kids but I wholeheartedly agree that there his relationships to navigate, not mine. 
 

I admit I've put a lot of effort into "fixing" things and my heart has been broken by my "fall from grace" with my SKs and DH's extended family. But I can honestly say that I'm not holding onto hope for a change, nor do I want one anymore. 

Rags's picture

Though he did the right thing IMHO.  He needs to know that his absence will be far more impactful on that gathering than it will be on him.

Their crap and his absence will be the 5000Lb gorilla in the room whether they want to admit it or not.

Enjoy your TG without their drama.  I hope that DH will enjoy the drama free holiday as well.

Happy Thanksgiving!

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