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Nickiabrown's picture

I am appalled, yet intrigued by most of these posts. These are true and honest feelings here and to have a place to express them is priceless. I feel that while it is good to explore the shadow side of your ego, it is also good to know that emotions are formed by thoughts. What if the original thought was different. I'm not talking about avoiding reality, I'm refering to the strong feelings of dislike toward children. To recognize selfishness, rudeness, and all of the other personality flaws that are used to describe these children, it is vital to know that these traits all lie within us. Humanity as a whole. The bottom line in each situation is really the other parent. It is about your differences in child-rearing and boundaries as they were formed and shaped by being raised in two different worlds. A child is a product of the one you have attached yourself to. They were that wet cement and your significant other is responsible for what has been ingrained. I can personally say that I am having trouble with my boyfriend and my oldest daughter who is 16. She simply doesn't like him. Unlike most of the posts I do not condone bad behavior. I try to look deeper from both sides and I am not always correct in my assesment.It's a process that comes with time and wisdom. However, it is never too late to shape a child. They are highly impressionable.I believe that it is time to get really upset with the enablers aned the responsible parties which is most likely the man or woman that you have chosen to commit to for not taking control of the situation and addressing one of your most basic and essential human need for love. Your feelings deserve to be validated by the one that you are committed to. Get down to the nitty gritty because the outlandish beahvior displayed by the child may very well be cues picked up from their parents.

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Nymh's picture

Nickia, I agree with you on a lot of what you have said, but in my experience posts like this on ST usually don't go well and are met with lots and lots of replies on how someone feels justified in blaming the child, or on how their situation is very different from yours and you couldn't possibly understand, or that their SO is a piece of gold and the other parent is a low-life piece of trash and it is all their fault, or on how maybe they don't blame the child and they understand that the parents are responsible, but they come here to vent about their frustrations which may include thoughts that they feel guilty about having or couldn't possibly express to their SO...

Luckily we don't have many problems with SS's behavior. Despite having a pretty screwed up family dynamic for the first several years of his life, a father who was never there and a mother who is genuinely crazy, he's turned out to be a good kid. I can't for the life of me figure out how we managed to form such a well behaved child out of our messed up situation, but I am sooo thankful.

*~So sayeth Nymh~*

Most Evil's picture

I am commenting to say, I will no longer comment on these type of posts - what has it been, a whole week since the last person 'figured it out' for everyone? LOL!

I always feel it is a BM whose child misbehaves at the step's house, who doesn't want them to be held accountable there.
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Totalybogus's picture

Life itself is not black and white. It is many different shades of gray. While it is true that the behavior the child manifests is not only learned, but tolerated by their parents most often because the parents feel they are depriving the child of that fairytale family, it is also true that people are only human and have human emotions. Most here, myself included, can reason that there are underlying issues that cause a child to behave as they do as well as the comparative fault of our partners in attributing to and enabling that behavior, but just as it is a basic human need for love, it is a basic human emotion to feel pain, frustration, apathy and anger towards the person who is actually espousing that behavior.

What I sense from most of the people here is that while they may feel these very basic emotions about their stepkids and while they vent what their inner most thoughts are here on this board, they, like myself, will swallow those feelings when the time comes to act and actually do the adult thing.

I think what people seem to forget is that even though we are adults and we should only have adult thoughts, we are still living breathing people with feelings.

Hate-Me's picture

lol these posts make me laugh...this is a support site for step parents, it is a place to vent....if you dont like the posts...THEN LEAVE!

Amazed's picture

I've actually been seeing a lot of posts lately that have been holding Biomoms and biodads responsible for the behavior of the child. I'm sorry that you haven't also seen these posts. Maybe stick around for a bit and you'll notice that many of us do hold the parents responsible for the behavior. Then again at some point the child does recognize right from wrong and has to be held accountable occasionally for their own mean side.

Perhaps you can pick a few members and just read their entire story (if the blogs still exist)...you'll see in many posts anger, frustration,a sense of futility and even a bit of humor as they try to cope with the things in their head.

Sometimes venting it out rids the mind of ugliness and makes room for better things to grow. It's just a process, a cleansing process that I think some people get stuck in. Some keep repeating the vent cycle because it's so helpful to them. I have adverse opinions about the things some people say about their stepchildren but as long as I see them growing and changing with each vent then I feel the site is serving the purpose it was built to serve.

Everyone has a different way to cope. Some people feel that by indulging their resentment and anger they are forcing their mind to stay in that black cloud of bad emotions. Others feel getting it out is the best way to rid their mind of the issue.

No outside person can say which way is good or bad...that's an individual choice the blogger must make for themselves.

"Always be a first-rate version of yourself, instead of a second-rate version of somebody else." ~Judy Garland

BMJen's picture

This is how I see it.

If everyone else is allowed to come here and say whatever they want in regards to their skids, right down to stating that they hate them, then you are very much so allowed to come here and say that you think that was a little harsh.

For some reason the people that will string you up right now after writing your blog, are the same ones that will "vent", rather harshley, about their skids.

I say to hell with it all. You are allowed to come here and bitch, fuss, vent, say whatever you want. That's what the site is for right? Well that's exactaly what you've done, you've stated your op. I know that I have felt this same exact way from time to time. Now I've learned how to just skip right over the blogs that I know I don't have the stomach for! Smile

"If you don’t adapt and look within yourself, you’ll just keep wading in that stagnant poisonous pool of stepparent hell." author: BitchBitchBarbie

kidsaplenty's picture

Agreed, there is nothing wrong with this thread. I think when someone posts about a situation it is going to get feedback and if they don't want feedback they shouldn't be posting on a public site, yes even a support one. Support might look like, 'I can relate my skid is just like that' to 'I'm sorry you're feeling bad' to 'hey hearing you describe your sitch it appears you might want to look at some changes in you to make things go better (ie disengage, throttle back on the hostility, etc..,) I've posted a few blogs here and gotten some good advice and some with stuff I would never in a million years do but hey, I put it out there so I'm going to get feedback.

Some blogs I just skip because like you I can't stomach them too. Then I have my favorite posters that I read most of what they blog because I think they have really good perspectives.

Amazed's picture

My sentence that you so lovingly posted on your blog comments still holds true for how I feel about being here...
"If you don’t adapt and look within yourself, you’ll just keep wading in that stagnant poisonous pool of stepparent hell."

"Always be a first-rate version of yourself, instead of a second-rate version of somebody else." ~Judy Garland

LotusFlower's picture

Well...I'm gonna take a whole different approach...and I'm gonna be 100% honest...when I read some skid bashing posts I get really upset....my SM made my sister live in the basement...(and this is no joke)...I had the wicked SM from Cinderella, so yea...it makes my stomach turn when I read some of the things people say about their skids...u can just HEAR the hatred, jealousy and insecurity when u read between the lines....HOWEVER... I do believe that people need a forum to vent about their frustrations, so I bite my tongue....it is my HOPE that if someone is able to vent about their frustration here, then maybe they won't take it out on the child :(......however, if u put it out here for all of us to read, be prepared to hear things u may not agree with....its the way dialogue works....

A mother is not defined by the "b" or the "s" in front of her name, she is defined by how she handles the "mother" part.....

kidsaplenty's picture

You are right. There are some who come to vent/find solutions and some that I suspect come for validation of their hatred/jealousy and sadly it might just feed it more and the kids trapped in the situation are the victims. There are some posters that are trying so hard and I cheer for them when things improve and other that I cheer for the skids when I hear the kids are no longer coming to visit because some posters shouldn't be near any children.

Nymh's picture

Here, here!

This is exactly how I feel. I have an XBF who had a truly wicked SM also. One of the many evil things that she did to him which stands out foremost in my mind is toting him around in the backseat of her car all day long while she ran errands and visited friends and family. He stayed strapped to the seat all day, despite his pleading which got more desperate as the day went on. No food, no water, no bathroom... He said by the end of the day he was passed out, sitting in his own filth and when she finally let him get out and saw that he had messed himself in her car, she beat him.

I am not saying that anyone on this site would do something so horrible, or abuse their SKids in any way... but at the same time, it is not outside the realm of possibility, and when I see such hatred and jealousy as I have seen in some posts, I always wonder.

*~So sayeth Nymh~*

Hate-Me's picture

lol the wicked SM. is it possible to also have wicked stepkids?? i have never mistreated the monsters yet they seem to find a way to upset me every weekend, it never fails. Just because we vent our frustrations and name call doesnt mean we do it to them in person. this is a place for most to vent those evil thought so it doesnt turn into actions in our everyday lives...after all, is it really healthy to bottle emotions? when you do, they fester and turn into a huge infection of resentment.

Sita Tara's picture

The path to enlightenment cannot be handed down by stating the obvious, nor can it be hindered by such. Welcome, and write what you wish. I know I could not have come so far these past two years without the friends this site has brought into my life. I have gotten far more than I have given. The good the bad the ugly.

To each his own.

Peace...love...and red wine.

Sita

Nymh's picture

I would like to add, never underestimate the ability of anyone to manipulate the details of a story to suit their own agenda. I suspect that at least some of the SKids are not nearly as evil if misbehaved as they are made out to be, but their stories are inflated by the poster to give more justification to the feelings of jealousy and anger that they have toward the kids.

We have to remember that a story can be told a thousand different ways depending on the perspective of the storyteller. Details can be added, changed, omitted or over-emphasized to cater to the motive of the person telling the story. I try to remember when reading the posts here that there are other humans involved in each situation and we most likely are not be getting the whole story.

*~So sayeth Nymh~*

Gestalt's picture

I'm not sure it necessarily has to be manipulation of the story, motive likely matters less than perception in a lot of the posts here. Someone could certainly perceive that they are always treatedly rudely by the steps even though through most days they might be being treated respectfully. But the instances of disrespect or lack of consideration are so meaningful to the poster that they do honestly feel as if they are not respected and valued in the home.

It's also very hard sometimes to distinguish between "normal" kid out of line behavior and "step-induced" kid out of line behavior. Some things are normal boundary testing that ALL kids go through, others are quite a bit more situation relevent.

"The beauty of life is, while we cannot undo what is done, we can see it, understand it, learn from it and change, So that every new moment is spent not in regret, guilt, fear or anger, but in wisdom, understanding, and love." -Jennifer Edwards

Abalyn's picture

My posts under my previous name are gone. If you had read them, you would see that I am one of those "skid bashers". You would also see that I hold BM and DH accountable for SD's behavior. They are the ones that absolutely created this monster. Furthermore, I hold them 100% accountable for turning a blind eye to her behavior and doing nothing to curb it. DH is turning around (finally!), but BM is still keep on keeping on.

Do I love my SD? Nope. I don't even like her. I seriously cannot find one single redeeming quality. Yet I tuck her in every night, encourage her performance in sports and academics, sew her halloween costumes, cook her favorite foods, take her shopping, hug her, comfort her when she's sick or upset, and generally treat her like my own. I'm volunteering in her classroom, working backstage at her school performances, teaching her multiplication tables, letting her help bake cookies, and on and on and on.

So what do I do? Leave a man that I dearly love because his child (that will only live here another 10 (gasp! 10) years is a horrific brat? Take the SF that my children adore from them because no one likes his daughter? Insist that she go live with her mother, even though that's the last place she needs to be? Or do what I've been doing - venting here and going to therapy to help me deal, all the while pushing DH to have his daughter evaluated?

Seriously, Nickia, I'd like to know. What would you have me do?

LotusFlower's picture

Awwww...Ab....I think u might like her a little bit ;)....yur a REALLY good SM :)....I don't think I could do all that if I didn't like my skids....Bravo!....u must REALLY adore yur DH Smile

A mother is not defined by the "b" or the "s" in front of her name, she is defined by how she handles the "mother" part.....

Abalyn's picture

It IS a mystery. DH and I were working out our will a year or so ago and he made the comment that if I died, he'd never see my kids again and that would break his heart. I told him that was ridiculous, my kids dad would let them see DH whenever they wanted (ex and SM are pretty cool like that with me and DH). He replied that if he died, there was no way BM would ever let me see SD again. I pulled out an academy award winning performance when I made a sad face and said "oh, yeah, that would be awful". In truth, I was envisioning life without SD and could barely contain my joy. I honestly would not miss her a bit (I don't think - you never know until you've been there I guess). But I really, really don't think I'd give her a second thought if she were no longer a part of my life. Other than relief.

Abalyn's picture

I really don't like her. BUT... I do recognize that she is a product of her environment. I also feel like she has some serious problems and if not for me, they would never be addressed. I could go on and on about it, but the end result is that I'm the only one advocating for her. I've thought about leaving MANY times, but if I do... what will become of her? Ick, maybe I do care about her on some level! Wink

And thanks for the kudos, LF. I needed that today! Smile

Amazed's picture

"I've thought about leaving MANY times, but if I do... what will become of her?"

this just got to me...it's so selfless.

"Always be a first-rate version of yourself, instead of a second-rate version of somebody else." ~Judy Garland

Sia's picture

OMG this is sooo true of my situation, only it's just not all about SD, it's also about my boys..... BUT I have put far more effort into SD17 than I have into my own kids......