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Redin's picture

Dd sent bm a friend request and pretended to be an old friend of sds. She said she was sad to hear sd had passed and wanted to offer her condolences. She asked when and how sd died, she died of cancer almost 4 yrs ago. It was a reoccurance for the 3rd time. She got cancer at 10, it came back when she was 19 and then came back aggressively at 24 and she died 6 months later. I beleive dd said brain cancer but then she said tumor so I'm not sure which it is it the same? Dh is pissed that no one told him when she was diagnosed at 10. He should have been told. I can't beleieve a mother would hold this information back. Dh is considering taking legal action aganist bm but I don't know if that would even be considered? It may be to late now.

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twoviewpoints's picture

Wasn't your Dh providing health insurance and/or paying a spilt percentage of medical cost that he would have suspected something serious was wrong with the child?

Anyway... I'm sorry for your Dh's loss, belatedly, but nevertheless. Losing a child is difficult and something no parent should ever have to face.

Redin's picture

No and thanks. I can't beleive the lengths bm went to to not tell dh. My guess is she enjoyed the attention of a sick child and didn't want to share that with dh. I would have made sure sd got all the right treatments and made sure bm wasn't playing it up for attention. None of that matters now though.

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

Sadly I'm not sure if he would have a case. What is his reasons? What would he claim as her behavior did to him? What did he lose?

Don't get me wrong she's a horrible person but our court system sadly doesn't punish people for that alone.

Redin's picture

My thoughts to. I don't think we could do anything except expose bm for what she is.

CompletelyPuzzled's picture

I understand that your DH is sad and angry but I doubt he would accomplish anything by taking legal action. He should probably just leave it alone. This is probably a very painful topic for his other children. It would be cruel to bring all of this back up. Plus, if he attacks BM, he may lose any hope he has of ever reconciling with his kids. He should really consider if it is worth it.

Redin's picture

You say that like it's a bad thing. :? Lol i will be 100% honest with you guys, i don't want him to reconcile with them. They brought us nothing but trouble and i still have a criminal record because of them. No thank you, they aren't worth my time or my energy.

Redin's picture

He didn't know she had cancer. Bm knew where his parents lived. She could have told them and they would have told us. Dh was pushed out by bm and his childrens bad attitudes and behavior. Sorry but not really. We were not their punching bags.

Redin's picture

It wasn't a choice. Bm made it so he couldn't be involved. She turned his kids against him and told then to misbehave in our home. She told sd to take a hard book and smash my dd in the face with it. She broke dds nose and when she flew back and hit the ground she got a concussion. I couldn't have that behavior around my kids.

twoviewpoints's picture

never mind. I saw below additional info.

Redin's picture

My dd (dearest daughter) pretended to be a friend of sds that passed and she contacted bm on facebook so we could find out what happened.

Redin's picture

Thank you but don't blame dh for any of this. When you have a bm like her it's best to stay away for your own protection.

fourbrats's picture

Long time lurker...first post or comment.

His daughter was 7 or so when he disappeared from her life. Why would mom contact him three years later when he made the choice to no longer see his children? And why the nasty comments about treatments and mom wanting attention when her child had cancer? That is just cruel to say. This mom went through this three times with her child and ultimately she lost her child. You can be upset or unforgiving when it comes to what happened or what you perceived happened, but you cross a line when it comes to questioning what she did while her child was fighting cancer when your husband chose years before that to not be involved. Mom owned your husband nothing.

What did SD do at 7 years old that led to this 20 year estrangement? What did you do that led to your arrest?

Please leave SS, the other SD, and the ex alone.

Redin's picture

She was 8 and bm told her to smash my dd in the face with a book. Dd flew backwards and hit her head and convulsed. She had a broken nose and a concussion and spent 2 days in the hospital. It took her months to get back to her normal self. She had to have plastic surgery as an adult to fix her nose since it didn't heal excatly right. That is what sd and bm did.

My arrest and conviction were bulls!it. Seeing dd convulsing on the floor I picked her up and rushed her to the hospital. I called dh from there and he came to us. I was covered in blood as was dd. It was a long night and the kids were old enough to call their mother to come get them. Instead, sd who was 6 decided to go outside and walk on a busy road. The police got involved and i was arrested for leaving them alone. The court said after the emergency was over i was responsible to find someone to get them. They aren't my kids, i had my hands full with dd and my only thoughts were making sure she was okay.

You don't know bm. I do and i know she relished in the attention she got. That is the kind of woman she is.

Redin's picture

I don't blame the police, i disagree with them. I honestly didn't think about the stepkids except to want to strangle sd. I just assumed they would call their mom to come get them. I didn't think they were home by themselves or i would have called bm or a neighbor. I was stressed out with what happened, i was covered in blood and i was in full freak out mode. So my thoughts weren't about the skids.

keepitsimplestupid's picture

Was your DH home at the time? Did he leave the kids alone in the house to go to the ER? I'm not understanding why YOU were charged.

Redin's picture

Dh was at work. I left them to take dd to the er. I really thought they called bm to come get them.

keepitsimplestupid's picture

If that's the case then yes, you should have been charged. I can't believe someone would leave 3 kids in a house, one who is 6 years old and walking the street. Sorry, but yes, the police were correct in charging you. It doesn't matter if the kids are related to you or what was going on. Your child convulsing on the floor and bloody? CALL 911! Isn't that the first instinct? After explaining what happened, the cops would have handled the violent abuse that was going on with your SD.

Epic fail.

Please leave the BM and those skids alone. Don't try to contact them anymore. Leave your DH to make whatever he wants of what's left of his relationships with his kids. Your involvement hasn't benefitted anyone.

fourbrats's picture

I will reply here although I read everything.....

So YOUR DD was an instigator and acting abusively towards your stepchildren. Your SD defended herself against your DD. Perhaps she used too much force, but defended herself. Your DD was injured enough to convulse but you failed to call 911. You left three small children at home alone and the youngest got out of the house. You were arrested (rightfully so) for leaving them. Your husband then abused HIS child for defending herself against YOUR child (not his, yours) and this is somehow all the fault of BM and the stepkids?

Oh and now you have your DD lying to a mother who lost her child for some perceived "right" your husband has to know anything about the children he abandoned in favor of your child 20 years ago. Yeah, leave them alone. If anything, once BM finds out it was your daughter who posed as a friend on Facebook she could pursue civil actions of her own. That is really mean spirited.

Redin's picture

After dh spanked sd for what she did bm called children services on dh and he was arrested (he refused all plea deals and was acquitted ) for leaving a mark. A good a$$ whooping will do that. He didn't bruise her butt but a belt will leave welts. Bm filied for supervised visits and won. She refused to answer her phone. How is dh at fault for that? She knew where his parents lived, she could have contacted him through them.

Disneyfan's picture

Did your husband spank your daughter for pinching SD?

Good for BM for calling CPS. What you just described is child abuse.

twoviewpoints's picture

Sounds like they both were arrested, but at different times and reasons. Op for leaving the kids alone and afterwards Dad for beating on the little girl with a belt.

And yes, if any adult had ever beat on my kid with a belt I would have called DCFS also.

But then I would have called an ambulance for a convulsing bleeding child and not picked her up and ran out the door... so I guess some extreme poor decisions were going on in OP's home but on the day and immediately following.

DaniellaR's picture

It's very easy to be judgmental about an emergent situation but most people are so panicked, they respond oddly. I watch people everyday drive kids that are not breathing into the ER or let a relative hang on the brink of life for days before calling an ambulance. With my own DD, calling the ambulance wasn't even a thought to me. I am part of the team that first responders rush these people to- I responded how I always do, someone else called the ambulance. It's not the first thing I would think to do either, I have more training than the medics, I would mainly just want their equipment.

IslandGal's picture

I'm also wondering why you blame BM totally? Your husband is just as much to blame if he never made contact and let it be this way for many years. I get why you banished the kids if they behaved atrociously - but there was nothing to stop your husband from maintaining contact.

Him giving up on them was his choice entirely - this is not all BM's fault. She's lost a child and is hurting - she doesn't need you being malicious and putting all the blame on her.

Stop making excuses for him. Its obvious you don't want his other kids around but again - these are choices he needs to make and you should just stay out of it and mind your own business. I'm shocked your daughter made contact - why? What business of it was hers?? She faked being a friend to get info - I find that pretty damn disgusting - especially as she faked sympathy - how classy. Not.

Redin's picture

Dd was very nice to bm more so then bm deserves. We wanted to find out what happened and this was a fast way. Don't be rude about dd. She expressed sympathy and was kind.

IslandGal's picture

I smell bulshit. Why would dd be so nice if she was treated so horribly by bm and sd in the past?

She faked being a friend and she faked sympathy -that's how she got the info YOU were after.

You both acted underhanded and fake as all hell.

Why dont you just back off and leave BM alone? Why keep on at her? This is none of your business - it is up to your husband to pursue or not. He chose to stay away - he is a grown ass man who, I'm sure, can make his own decisions. You need to just stay out of it.

Redin's picture

She was nice because we wanted to get the information. :? I don't understand the bullshi! comment. I fully admit what we did and why. We were nice though. Bm has no idea it was us, she thinks sd had a long lost friend thinking of her. Its a win win for all of us.

IslandGal's picture

...and again..why even contact her in the first place? Sounds to me like you and your daughter were being intrusive. You both had no business contacting BM and you went about it in a sly way. Your daughter isn't friends with her so if it soothes your conscience to fake the sympathy..then that's on you both.

You both need to stay out of BM's business seeing as you have nothing but contempt and disdain for her.

The bulshit comment is from your talking through your ass. You reached out with ulterior motives. You don't give a damn about SD's passing and your daughter faked sympathy to get info for your own benefit. Neither of you were being genuine so quit the crap about being 'nice' about it.

WTF...REALLY's picture

Yup....and then the kids lost their dad over thier step sisters anger issues.....really a sad story.

I hope he just leaves them alone.

Wifeypoo's picture

“Sometimes the crazy BM is the other one”

I just spit out my camomile tea all over me. Smile

DaniellaR's picture

Yep lol

WTF...REALLY's picture

Sorry she died. What a heartbreaking story. Poor siblings and BM S well. So sad.

If your husband is heartbroken, then it sounds like he still loves his kids. He should Focus on the ones that are still alive. It’s hard to take his grief seriously if he only care about thier death and not thier life. He still has living kids.

He walked away...it’s time to walk back towards them.

And yes...I get the crazy BM and what trouble they can cause....if you know the BM in my life....you’d be shocked. She’s a nut.....but my husband knows he needs a relationship with his child dispite a crazy BM.

Your husband walked away from young children. He needs to be more humble about what happened since he left.

notarelative's picture

There's enough blame here for everyone to have some - you included.

You left young children alone and expected them to call their mom and have her pick them up. You blame a six year old for wandering and the subsequent police involvement. You imply that the child died because the mom did not procure the correct treatment for the child and that you would have if you had known that she was ill.

If the BM were to write here she might tell the tale of the step child who was constantly hitting her child and how when, after repeated incidents she told her child to hit back, things went from bad to worse.

There's no basis for a suit. There's probably no hope of reconciliation with the son. The best you can hope for is that somehow your husband and his son find a way to coexist at work.

momof3smof2's picture

So, your husband dumped his kids, and now he wants to sue the woman who stuck around to actually raise her kids, saw said child through THREE bouts of cancer, then had to bury her child? Seriously?

notasm3's picture

My DH had a son who died, and he was not informed. I don't think the blame game is black and white.

OSS was extremely troubled from a very, very young age (like 7 or 8). He spent a year out of school (back before children had to be offered other accommodations) and DH stayed home with him (worked nights). After their divorce BM sent OSS to live with DH (who gladly accepted him) when he was about 14 or 15 and she could not handle him.

OSS got involved in gang culture and after participating in a murder (or multiple murders) he skipped the state and went underground for more than a decade. This was not DH or BM tossing him away. It was OSS fleeing from murder charges.

Twenty years later BM and DH both knew where OSS was, but he could not come back in state as there were still warrants out for his arrest. There is no statute of limitations with murder. Both talked to him by phone.

When OSS was dying BM went to his side. DH begged her for information. We were very new then and I remember his pleas to her. When OSS died (on Valentine's Day) BM held the funeral (out of state where OSS had fled), but did not tell DH until after the funeral. She listed DH as the father and told everyone that he could not be bothered to attend.

BM deserves a place in hell for that. Which since she is the most holier than thou church lady would be poetic justice.

still learning's picture

OP, regardless of what happened in the past a parent has a right to know if their child is deceased. It's plain cruel to purposefully withhold that kind of information. I doubt your DH can accomplish anything with legal action. If I were his friend I'd advise him to start a scholarship fund or make a charitable donation in her honor.

Acratopotes's picture

how can you pull your daughter into this mess? That's just a bit low IMHO.

Now DH's daughter dies, DH decided to walk away from them, he has no case against BM. And yes your DH walked away, when they divorced there were a CO in place with visitation, skids got poisoned against their father and he simply sat back, he did nothing. He could've gone back to court and said, BM is in content she refuses visitation, he could've gotten the kids into therapy... but he decided to do nothing.

Your DH needs to get over this and over himself, he can't change the past...

Cara1128's picture

First condoleances! I am sorry this happenened!
Soo many issues
1. Leave BM alone! Isn't it enough she lost a child? You almost lost your child... Have you no compassion?
2. Leaving a 6 yr old to wander alone on the street is ON YOU!
3. Good on BM for keeping her kids away from yours
4. Hitting a 6 year old with a belt is child abuse and ON HIM!
5. I understand that blood makes us do some crazy things and I am sorry that your DH had to go thru being in
surgery rehab as a result of SD defending herself from pinching.

ESMOD's picture

Nutshell

You allowed your older DD to torment a 6 year old
BM told 6 year old she could defend herself
6 year old defended herself after you literally watched your kid torment her an did nothing about it.
you left a 6 year old alone and didn't call anyone.
You got your DH to abandon his child over your GUBM antics.

I feel badly that your DH missed knowing his daughter and allowed his wife's twisted thinking to rob him of that.

I think it's ridiculous that you expected a 6 year old to put up with your older daugher's anger issues because she was a poor widdle COD. So, your daughter got hurt? Maybe if you had taught her to treat others with respect... the situation wouldn't have happened.

Snowflake's picture

Your Dh's kids are not your concern any longer. They are all full grown adults now who want to have nothing to do with your husband, you, or your kids. The only reason he found out now is because he happened to get a job working in the same office as his estranged son.

As far as your DH taking the BM to court. That is simply wishful thinking, and I can't imagine that any lawyer would take that case. He has no legal grounds in which to sue. It is a parent's responsibility to care for a child. He willingly walked away. He willingly decided to not pursue a parallel-parenting situation. His wife was legally charged with willingly leaving a minor child alone, no matter what the circumstances. If he did take her to court, keep in mind that BM could counter sue for Child-Support and medical bills. Especially if he didn't sign his rights away. And his bio-son that he works with would most likely tell facts from his point of view, the bio-son who he now works with.

I can imagine that your husband's work environment can't be pleasant with his son working there. Your husband is best doing what he knows how to do best. Just walk away.