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Tax return fun - TBM cheats her own daughter out of $500

CLove's picture

WEll, the lies got deep this week, waters murky and the stink of them is wafting around me. I am still amazed that TBM has decided to cheat her daughter out of a bundle of cash that she did nothing to earn.

The other day, SO asked me to do Winona's taxes for her. He told Winona that I, Clove, would be doing her taxes, so send me the W2. I said "ok sure". This was to find out the truth of things, plus help her out because she has been living somewhere else, living her life working and going to school, and in general being independant.

TBM wanted $500 of Munchkins Child Tax Credit money, and was pressuring SO to "hand it over because Winona SD18 made too much money, so she could not claim the eldest as a dependent." Forget about the fact that TBM did not provide more than 50% of support, that Winona has been on her own since last September. But TBM told SO that she received $4,000 in refund money when she filed a few weeks ago. Hmmmm. Things are just not adding up.

I plug in the numbers to the heavy-weight tax software we use here, viewing the calculations. I tell Winona "you will be getting around $1,400!!! Give me your bank information, and it will be automatically deposited to your bank account". She texts me back "Thats great, thank you thank you so much! When do you think it will be there?" She has never been appreciative to me, so I see some growth has happened. I click the submit button, and an error code pops up. Im tired, so I do not investigate further.

On the way home, my brain is chewing on this. The only thing I can think of is that someone else took her social to use for their refund. I tell this to SO, asking "are you certain that your ex wife did not claim Winona as her dependant? No? Ill bet you she is totally lying, so that you will feel compelled to split half of munchkins tax credit".

Well, I view the error codes the next morning and clear as day is the text detailing that the IRS cannot accept our return as filed because the SS has been used for another return. BAM, busted. SO and Beast argued that day, apparently, as she insisted she did not use Winonas SS. WELL someone did, hello. I text the bad news to Winona, and hand the situation to CPA, who recommends she check with her mother-monster, to confirm, so we can make sure there isnt any identity theft going on. She texts her mother who doesnt get back to her, I tell her that hey - your getting $500 less of a refund, because your mother claimed you (fraudulently), and she texts back "thats not fair". Nope isnt.

Winona texts back that her mother confessed, but will pay her the $500 difference. SO was also informed that Beast did indeed use Winonas SS to get reund, but is now being harassed for $500 for munchkin, or Beast will take him to court. Now I need to research Family Court laws. Grrrr. Just cant win. She has her strangle hold on our lives with her vagina-claws. So doesnt currently pay any child support for Munchkin, but at any time, she can bring him to court and request it, forget about 50/50 custody agreement.

6 years and 2 1/2 months of dark cloud hanging over us. I guess I felt safe, because SO told me that she would never do this, that she understands its not in the best interest of her child, that she will get more if she works with us, instead of against us. He told me it was very difficult to overturn the custody agreement once signed and filed. My eyes have been opened, and now I clearly see the minefield we must walk through for the next several years.

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momjeans's picture

This is sad. There is nothing holding this woman to paying her the $500 she’s says she will. I really hope she does follow through.

And, obviously, there’s a big difference between $500 and $1400. I would give this sorry piece of crap BM $0 for Munchkin for pulling this BS.

So, with Winona not living with her mom for more than 9 months last year, I assume, and there being no court order laying out who can claim who, and when, I say... let her spend the money to take him to court. I have a strong feeling the legal hammer will come down hard on her on both sides. Federal and family court.

CLove's picture

Yes, but I doubt the Beast can spell TAX FRAUD. Because Winona was born of her, she owes her mother (GUS) for the rest of her natural life.

As many issues as I have had with Winona previously, I really was trying to do the best thing. Her very first tax return, a rite of passage into the "adult world", no longer "claimed as a dependant", screwed up by her mother. Yup, the same mother who knocked the living daylights out of her, throttled her and called her a b!tch.

I an hoping that this will open up Winonas eyes, and the Beast will back off.

momjeans's picture

Per IRS guidelines, can, and should she legally claim Winona? If not, I’d push Winona to contact the IRS and give them the heads-up her Mom did this. She’s going to have to learn to stand up to her mom sooner or later. No better time than now.

notsobad's picture

Both SS and SD got tax credits for being enrolled in full time Uni. They could either, keep them for once they were out of school and making money or give them to a parent, grandparent or spouse. The reasoning being that one of those 3 would be helping the student financially and could use the credit now.
SS and SD would give theirs to DH.

DH and I are the only ones who gave either skid any money during school. BM was too broke.

One year SD calls me in a panic. She NEEDS her tax info. I’m sorry it’s already gone to the accountant.
Later in the year our accountant got a call from CRA, SD and SSs school credits were used twice. They can’t give out any information but ours was filed first so we got the credit.
We know it was BM. It was the first year she’d had her taxes done by a private accountant, she used them without knowing that the skids had already given them to DH. Then when the accountant asked for the skids to sign them to BM, she found out she couldn’t but pushed it through anyway.

The next year she demanded that she be allowed to use them. DH said when you actually give them money you can use them.

CLove's picture

Its a slimy dirty game she tried to play (both our BM Beasts), but the kids know who has their back in a pinch.

The Beast never did tax returns, until divorce, and SO was trying to help her out sharing the kids between them. It bit him in the behind this year. He has tried to keep things smooth, but she will always be the thorn in the side. She keeps engaging him in different disputes. Lies and manipulations.

notsobad's picture

Bahahahaha, BM here never did her own taxes until she and DH split up.

They had a small company and while she never worked for the company, as in did any actual work, for tax purposes she claimed an income from the company. The skids also worked for the company. It made the corporate taxes lower.

Once CS stopped, she final got a real job and became a realtor.
She did very well, good on her! But she didn’t put anything away for taxes. It was, after all her money (insert sarcasm icon here).
She ended up in some hot water with CRA and had to hire an accountant. They went hunting for deductions so that her CRA bill wasn’t so outrageous and up came the school credits.

SD did say something about the credits and helping BM out. DH said if BM started giving SD money for school, she could have them but until then he needed them or he wasn’t going to be able to give SD as much $$ to live on. He also told SD that she could keep them for herself in years to come but if he ever found out SD had lied to him and given them to BM he’d never trust SD again.

CLove's picture

Waters get murkier and murkier! Wow, thats a cool deal, transferal of credits to children, if the parent can afford it. We need that small chunk of cash that just got smaller. Here in the states, it is non-transferable.

Munchkin wants a bunk bed, for her room at her mothers apartment. She assumed her parents would go half-and half (wtf?) I do not know why. But now, there is a snowballs chance in he!! that will happen. She will not even get a dresser, ill make sure of that. All bets are off when she pulled this scheme. No more being "nice". She is on her own.

notsobad's picture

It’s from the child to the parent, grandparents or spouse.
From a tax website

“Transfer of tuition, education and textbook credits
If a student is unable to use all or a portion of these credits, he or she can transfer up to $5,000 to an eligible person. That translates into a $750 federal tax credit. Transfer to an eligible person is available only for credits earned in the current year. To make this designation, the student must complete and sign Form T2202. To support the amount claimed, a copy of this form should be kept by the designated person and, if applicable, by the student. Currently, the form doesn’t need to be filed with the return, but it must be available if requested by the CRA.”

DH stopped being nice to BM once I pointed out all it did was give BM permission to treat him like crap.
She was going to treat him like crap no matter what he did so why Try to be the good guy? Do what’s best for himself and the skids, let BM figure out her own damn life.

CLove's picture

Exactly my point. Do not incite, but do not jump through hoops, and bend over backwards. She is on her own, and as such cannot demand anything other that what is the basic for Munchkin SD11 (almost 12). He does well for his children, and always provides for the, and watches over them, so there is that. At our house, Munchkin has her own room and I have helped her clean and organize and re-do it so its really nice. At her mothers there is a room ready, except it has all types of trash in it, and the mattress has makeup gunk (cleanable!) so Munchkin still sleeps on the couch in the living room.