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Futuremrssimmons's picture

So I have 2 boys age 15 and 8. Me and my fiance are supposed to get married 10/13/18. My 15 year old and my fiance do not get along and my fiance has said if things don't change with his behavior we will not get married. Shouldn't he be my side no matter What? Good and bad? Im very sad over this so called probation period that i cant even be excited about planning our wedding. He is not even that bad a kid. He makes good grades he just has a really bad attitude(That he gets from his loser dad). I'm torn. My fiance thinks I should let him be the disciplinarian but he just yells in anger. I dont like it. I know I should be harder on my kid but i feel like all i do is fuss at him. My fiance acts miserable here at the house and acts like he hates my kid. I have stuck by fiance through alot of major issues and i feel like he is just ready to give it all up. This should be a happy time but its like im just waiting for him to leave me because of my 15 yr old. I need some good advice.

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secret's picture

Sounds easy.

- you know your kid has a bad attitude
- you know you should be harder on your kid
- you know your fiance is miserable
- you know your fiance wants to discipline the kid.....probably because he sees you're not hard enough on the kid

He should be on your side, yes - but that does NOT include being treated like crap by a 15 year old's attitude, and that does NOT include accepting to see his future wife be treated the same. It means working with you towards the same goal. Sounds like his goal is to stop your son's attitude, and sounds like it's not yours.

If you know all these things, why are you continuing to allow your 15 year old child to have a bad attitude?

Your future husband is essentially telling you to get your parenting sh!t together or he won't marry you.... you're essentially saying you know you need to do better...

....so what's the hold up?

Annoyed2626's picture

This comment above makes the most sense. You seem to know what needs to be done, however, a 15 year old kid is very well set in their ways. A 9 year old is set in their ways. This is not going to be easy, but getting the kids attitude under control is the only answer. I know the feeling he has. It ruined a relationship I had. He feels trapped in his own house, getting disrespected by a child and there's nothing he can do about it. It's an awful feeling.

jadewolf0325's picture

I'm stepdad to three boys, one of which is 15. I had the good fortune of being in his life from an early age.

My advice?

He wants to discipline and he is not established yet as parental figure. Best he can do is back you up. Your son is 15, not 5. It sounds as if he is jealous and acting immature, which begs the question is he ready to do what he will need to do as a parent / stepdad? Yelling and being physical with your 15 year old son will not help your son or a potential relationship with your fiancé.

Your primary concern are your children, this might not be the man you want as your children's stepdad. He may need to go to parenting classes and come to terms with what his role will need to be.

However... I do agree that as his mother you need to be more assertive in what is acceptable behavior from your son.

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

Flip this around. Would you be ok marrying this man knowing your going to be living with his child who doesn't respect you? How would you feel if he allowed his child's bad behavior just making the excuse that he's a kid and he gets it from his loser BM.

It's not an excuse. Your child is ruining your relationship and your partner has valid reasons for being displeased. If you want things to work out get your act together and parent your kid. This guy is amazing for realizing now he has a problem and not just going in thinking it will all get better.

Love isn't going to withstand everything and more than a few relationships are ruined by children. I wouldn't be with my partner if he allowed his kids to get away with having a "bad attitude". I'm not going to be disrespected in my own home then on top of it told I don't have the authority to discipline.

Willow2010's picture

I would NEVER marry someone if the hatred was that great between my underage kid and a SO. And I darn sure would not marry someone that acts like he “hates” my kid. Especially since you stood by him in a bad time in HIS life and now he is giving you ultimatums and probation periods. No…just no.

Sounds like your son has a 15 year old attitude and your SO wants to be the one to control your kid by being the disciplinarian. (yelling in anger)

If you “really” want to save this relationship, I would sit your SO down and tell him that for the sake of your relationship you will live apart, and not marry, until your son is in college or in the military at 18. By then, your son will have matured and maybe your SO will have matured also.

But honestly, if I stuck with my SO during a bad time in his life and he bailed on me during a bad time in mine…I would not want to marry him.

secret's picture

is he really acting like he hates her kid, though? Or is this one of those times where the parent thinks the partner hates the kid because the partner asked the kid to take the trash out, or the parent thinks the partner is picking on the kid because the partner talks to the parent about something the kid did...

zerostepdrama's picture

Either way... doesn't sound like a good situation for all of those involved and sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

I agree it's not good but how many times do we call BD a Disney dad for this behavior.

OP states she KNOWS her son has an attitude and she should do something but she's choosing not to.
SO may appear like he hates the kid because because he feels like so many of the stepmoms here. He is expected to provide and care for the child but has no say in making him mind.

Willow2010's picture

But even then…I would think long and hard about marrying someone when I had a 15 year old with a bad attitude. Why add to an already stressful situation?

She can get her kid raised without interference and drama from her SO. Her SO can save himself a few years of drama by waiting until she gets her kid raised. Easy peasy.

ProbablyAlreadyInsane's picture

I get wanting your SO to be on your side, I REALLY do. But the reality is, the kid is going to be around, he shouldn't have to put up with attitude and disrespect that you aren't working to change. All that would do is build up resentment from your SO and possibly cause future issues.

He knows the kid isn't going anywhere and is asking for your help to get things to where they should be. I can tell you flat out, things are miserable when Skids are coping attitude and being disrespectful, my husband fixes it whenever it shows and that makes it so much better!

If all you're doing is fussing, then throw some real consequences at him, we did that with the skids and the turn-around was good. Your SO needs your support in this topic. You can't expect him to have to deal with attitude forever just because you don't want to be harder on a teenager that probably needs the discipline.

Just food for thought.

Just1question's picture

I agree with what many others have said, you need to be more firm and discipline your child. I’m sure it’s frustrating for your SO to not only be disrespected, but to also see you being disrespected and doing nothing about it. Teenagers are moody anyways, but you can set some interventions in motion so your 15yo knows it’s not okay to disrespect your fiancé. You say your SO should be by your side always, but what a betrayal that you won’t discipline your son on your SOs behalf. Perhaps your son needs counseling from what he’s experienced from BF, but evenso, excusing his behavior on his BF is you just enabling him. He’s 3 years from being a legal adult, you can’t keep making excuses for him, you need to teach and guide him. Sometimes tough love brings good outcomes.

moeilijk's picture

It must be disappointing to find out that your fiance is one of those fair-weather friends. You've been there for him through tough times in the past. He loves you and wants to marry you ... but threatens to cancel the wedding unless your son behaves the way he likes. He's willing to use your marriage and future happiness as a bartering point to try to control your teen. What a huge guilt trip to put on your son!!! So inappropriate for an adult to put the responsibility for whether or not the adults get married on a teen.

I don't know what your fiance's problem with your son is, but a bad attitude is pretty much par for the course with a 15 yo, especially with a new marriage on the horizon.

If the problem is you not being a strong parent, that's easy enough to improve. Lots of websites and library books to give you different points of views and strategies. You can think about what you want for your son and how you think you can best help support and guide him. It's work, mental and emotional, but you can do it. You already know better than just blowing your top and yelling in anger.

lieutenant_dad's picture

Stepparents don't have the same tolerance level for kid shenanigans that bio parents do. You have blinders on and tolerate a lot more from your son than your fiance ever will be able to handle, and you're going to go mama bear on anyone who "threatens" your kids, even your fiance. Your fiance is already starting out on his back foot and needs YOUR support to move forward.

If your kid has an attitude, nip it in the bud. Don't tolerate it. Punish your son when he gets mouthy and out of line. Yes, teenagers have attitudes, but that doesn't mean you let it run rampant. It may mean that you only ground him for the weekend, or only take his phone away for one night, but you certainly don't just say, "he's a teen, it's how they are, let it go."

It would be good to sit down with your fiance, outline specific behaviors that are punishable/have consequence, then jointly figure out what the consequence will be for said behavior. Then BACK UP YOUR FIANCE when that behavior happens, and deliver consequences every time you see the behavior. You have to be a united front with our fiance, and part of that is letting him have some say in the running of the household in regards to your kids.

Also keep in mind that your fiance DOESN'T have to love or like your kids. On the flip side, your kids don't have to like or love your fiance. So long as everyone is respectful, that is good enough.

Your fiance is telling you what he needs. Listen to him and come to a compromise. I'm not saying give in and let him be an authoritarian, but meet him halfway in regards to your son. Realize that you're going to be more tolerant and try to see how annoying it would be to have someone live in your home with a bad attitude that you can't reasonably do anything about. This is a pretty easy problem to fix if you're willing to bend a bit. If you don't want to bend, your fiance has told you exactly what will happen - he won't marry you.

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

On top of this he is on your side by trying to parent, be it the only way he knows how. Yeah yelling at a teen when you're are angry doesn't exactly work but have you given him options on what he can do? Can he take away the phone or ground the kid? Can he get onto him for his disrespect or do you rush in and excuse him? Do you tell your partner "oh he's just being a kid" when he complains or do you say "I'll fix it," because here it seems like your giving your kid excuses. So what does your partner have left? Nothing, and get his frustrated and he yells because that's all he has.