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My husband's ex wife of 22 yrs wont stop going to HIs family reunion after asked not to

stepmom48's picture

I am new to this forum, but here it goes. My husband and I got married 3 years ago. He has an ex wife with 3 kids that all grow and near their 30's now.
My husband's deceased fathers family throws a family reunion every year for his side. The first year we were married his ex wife showed up. I thought this was odd. She's not bad person and I can get along with her but I still feel funny with ex wife there and didn't want to drive 2 hrs and chip in for the meal like everyone does to have to hang out with his kids and their mother at MY husbands reunion., it not her family and has not been for 22 yrs! Its supposed to be my new family where I get to know them with out interference. It also gets in the way for me to have relationship with his adult kids.
Really its pathetic and petty, but I don't want to party with his ex if I don't have to. If its for the adult kids or grand kids events that one one thing, you go and get along and do it for the,, but this is MY husbands family, my new extended family and I feel like I should not be made to be shown up or second best or compete in anyway.
We don't go to the ex's family reunions, what gives her the right to show up to his when she isn't married nor do they have little kids with and have to interact with each other at all?
Apparently she came for years to keep his kids involved when they were young and he allowed it because he wanted to see his kids. He didn't know he could assert tohave them dropped off with him, but she didn't not have to be there.
he never drew the boundary line nor expected to be remarried with someone who doesn't accept hanging with the ex unless it is necessary.( for kids or grand kids sake, events)
He says he don't want her there either , but he's a non-confrontational person.

I said this is a conversation he needs to have with her on phone. ( If write letter my husband has Dyslexia so if I type it she will think its all me and I'm the bad villan here and I don't want to create a problem with his kids over this matter but it may very well)

Then the ex tells my husband at their daughters house for the grandkids party (which I couldn't not go to this time) that she's thinking of going this year. He told her no and she said she didnt care , shes going.

I said that its not her family and she was not directly invited. And call his kids and tell them they are welcome to come, but not bring their mother as he did not approve of it now that he is remarried and clearly is not her place any longer and really ahs nto been for 22 years. To respect our position. if they want to come they can, if not, that's their choice. But this si the way it is going to be.

So then I tell his cousins.
Some said that they were sorry and didn't mean to make me and my husband feel uncomfortable now he is remarried after all these years. One cousin told me they didn't want to hear the circumstances and in the past their parents were divorce and they welcomed everyone. Said it was out problem. All we asked is not directly invite her and take her of the family facebook site, as it was for family members only. I was shocked at the insensitivity as the new family member, I said, wow, I see where priorities lie,you rather accept ex of 22 yrs rather than your actual counsin's feelings and wishes. I guess that family doesnt support my husband then?
The ex needs to get a life and move on. My husbands extended family is not hers it not even ex inlaws as they are deceased.
This makes my husband sad, he wants to see some people he cant see often like his favorite aunt.

We are both saying in our case we are not accepting it and if we are the family, it would be nice to at least respect Tony's wishes and not cause conflict for him and me. Especially if its the family party and every one chips in for the meal... not paying for party we cant enjoy because of an ex's unnecessary attendance.

So do I suck it up again for the 4th year and pretend to be friendly? Should I go and sit and be silent and ignore her? Or should I tell her quietly to go home, not her place as she is not our family and we will invite ourselves to her family reunions out of spite too?She can hang or be friends with his family on their own time, not on ours

We can choose not to go, to give the family a message that we don't accept the ex attending any longer as, my husband is the family, not her.

Any thoughts?

SacrificialLamb's picture

I understand that going to a family reunion and seeing the ex is annoying. What I don't understand is how bad it bothers you. My DH's ex is still included in events sometimes, because she remained friends with DH's sister. It really has no bearing on me whatsoever, and I have had pleasant conversations with BM. I don't want to be her friend, and I expect the feeling to be mutual, but I am not at all threatened by her presence.

DH and I discussed once before how his family was still friendly with his ex. I asked him if it bothered him. He said he didn't understand it, but the reality is that it isn't important to him or I.

My ex is from Central America. In all the times that I had been there, there would be large family parties there to welcome us back. And several divorced spouses came to those parties. It was very civilized and respectful, and it made a huge impression on me.

If I were in your spot, I would let BM be the one to stick out like a sore thumb. By you complaining to other family members when they had no problem with BM attending all those years, you are putting the negative spotlight on yourself. And that's going to get back to the skids, who are going to wonder why you have such a problem with it.

I really would just let it go. Of all the things that could be wrong, this is something where you need to pick your battles.

ChiefGrownup's picture

I don't know what you should do but I feel for you.

I am lucky to enjoy a great relationship with my in-laws and they would never do this. If I had a different set of in-laws, I could not stand this. I am just not going to play "My Two Wives" for anybody.

I would not get into any confrontation with the in-laws themselves. I would tell my husband I couldn't tolerate it. If he chose to go without me, knowing bm would be there, I think it would be a big damage to our marriage. So he would be in a very hard spot, too.

My guess is the only winner in this mess will be bm. Your in-laws will not stand by their cousin because they think some precedent has been set in a previous generation that makes this just spiffy. So they are pre-set to think of you as a bad apple since you don't like it.

So cousins will lose cousins, you will lose in-laws, but BM will queen it all around. Bad situation.

ldvilen's picture

Ex has been an ex- for 22 years! Oh, yeah. I want to go and annoy 99 people just so I can see the SIL I miss s-o-o-o much after 22 years. :sick: . The woman is a be.atch. She wants to make sure everyone is still licking her hinny over her 1st wife status, and apparently some still are.

But, but, what can you do about it? That is the question. Your options are go and play "My Two Wives," double :sick: :sick:. An option. It's up to you. You can go and suck it up and take it for the 1,000,0001 time. Or, you can avoid the event and let DH go himself, if he wants to.

As a SM, you have to do what works for you, because every time you make a move, someone will be telling you to dance this way, and then when you do, someone will be telling you to dance the other way instead. Go, don't go. But, at the end of the day, you can only control your own actions.

twoviewpoints's picture

I don't get it. You are fine with having birthday party with BM (in her home?) and hang together socializing during all adult child and grandchild events, but it's the end of the world if DH's elderly aunts/uncles and their adult children (the cousins) hold a carry-in dinner reunion and they invite BM. An once a year large gathering where there is much less chance you'll have to sit at the same table with BM and make small talk.

You made your husband call his ex and inform her not to attend an event he, himself nor his deceased parents are hosting and is an invited guest at someone else's hosted event. Now you're telling the host and her family not let allow BM to come, and when that isn't working you plan to confront BM herself there and tell her to leave.

You ae coming across as a real piece of work. If you want to control an invitation list, you need to offer to host this reunion next year in your town and do all the prep work. When you are a guest at someone else's event you don't get to be in charge. No. You and husband attend or you don't.

If it were really about getting to know your 'new family', you wouldn't wait and met up with them once a year. You'd invite them over for dinner or a BBQ now and hen in small groups and personally get to know them . You'd pick up the phone and occasionally chat visit with them. You take a trip to their area now and then and you reach out to them to form relationships with them. What you don't do is barge into their long traditional event and start telling them what to do or who to invite and/or exclude.

Birthday cake on a much more personal level, but not a picnic plate at a large gathering, You've got some weird boundaries and choices of battles...but if you do decide to attend this reunion, I sincerely hope you behave yourself. That, or do the host/hostess a favor and stay home, Don't go with the intention of spoiling their long time ways and traditions.

stepmom48's picture

Its not someone elses event nor put on by any one... u miss under stood... everyone decides together a date usually at our xmas gathering.. shes not invited then .. shes not involed in that... its a mutal family reunion that everyone pitches in for the meat and brings dish to pass . Found out she never pitches in. No b day parties are not in her home and i nver really ssid i likec it.. i suck it up.. we only see ex at grandchildren parties only. We live 2 hrs away and cant get back home very often. I didnt make my husband do anytbing. He said he does not want her there.. it isnt just me.

Disneyfan's picture

Clearly, your husband and his family have been fine with this for more than TWO DECADES. NOW all of a sudden it's a problem.

Girl, stop playing. People are not stupid. Your husband is complaining now because you planted that seed.

If you have an issue with BM being there, then don't go.

Thinking you get to come in and change the way this extended family has done things for DECADES, screams entitled and spoiled.

stepmom48's picture

My husband is hurt over this.. im bothered by it...but hes not upset over my reaction.. which is clearly ok... it is not someone's event they are hosting... it is the whole families get togeyher hosted at a park..everyone pays to chip in for the pavilion and meat..ex comes with dish but doesnt pay we found put.. we paid for ladt time unknowigly..and we are not somone's homes...my husband understands too amd he is going to speak up again to his adult kids not to bring her that things have changed...he told his son last year so she did not show up...and hes calling ex warning her to stay away that she was not invited by them or him
And its not her place any more.... It was only one cousin who was callous about our feelings. everyone else didnt realize what was going on until I said something . They were ok with what i said.. so im no peice of work...thats aweful thing to say to me or anyone.. like our feelings dont matter.. its our family.. not hers. you wanna hang with the ex's.. go for it bur on ypur own time... not ours...we are not... im the wife and its disrespectful to go to a plave that you were not invited our family is our family.. she needs to move on. We can be spiteful too and show up to her family reunion uninvited. touche.

hereiam's picture

I absolutely would not help pay for a party in which I had no say. Your husband has expressed his wishes to his family and they just disregard? Some family.

My DH will not be anywhere that BM is, so we would not go. He would not say anything to his family, he shouldn't have to, he just wouldn't go. She's an ex for a reason, he does not want to hang out with her, and although she does not bother me, I shouldn't have to hang out with her.

hurtingbad.13's picture

I feel you. Been there. But, there's only one of two things you can do. Go and and be miserable or don't go and feel guilty. I would opt for the guilt. Bottom line is that no one really cares but you and her. She knows it makes you uncomfortable and she is wallowing in it. To all of those who don't get it, you got to be there. It's hard to establish yourself in a parking spot where another care is parked.

ChiefGrownup's picture

"It's hard to establish yourself in a parking spot where another care is parked."

Absolutely perfectly said.

ldvilen's picture

Love this one too, "It's hard to establish yourself in a parking spot where another car is parked." Can you get or act like a tank and bulldoze over it? Sure. But you are going to cause a scene. Not that there is necessarily anything wrong with that, if that is your choice. But, just know what you are doing.

ChiefGrownup's picture

It's true. As I said before, there is only one winner here and it is not op no matter what she does.

Stay home while DH goes to a party where BM is his de facto date? Ummmm....I see mushroom clouds on that one.

Fuss and fight with in-laws over this? Why not just aim a Molotov cocktail at your own face?

The only possible sunshine I can see anywhere is weak and watered down but it might be perhaps dh and op host a different family party at Christmas or St. Patrick's Day or something. Then you can control the guest list and still see your relatives.

Just no way no how am I ever gonna play "My Two Wives." And if dh wants to date his ex-wife while I stay home there will be some decisions to make.

hereiam's picture

Yep, if DH wants to see his favorite aunt, he and OP can host their own family together and invite who they wants. I would skip the "family" reunion with his EX wife.

ldvilen's picture

I think a key word or two is missing here. What this should read is: "BM's presence should not be a challenge to your status as wife." Whether or not BM's presence is a challenge to a SM's status as a wife varies from family to family and situation to situation and is an individualized issue.

People are always trying to tell SMs how they are supposed to be feeling rather than looking at what they are feeling and why are they feeling that way. When a blank statement is made like, "BM's presence is not a challenge," or similar, how do you know? You have no way of knowing that. I'm not saying that is necessarily true in this situation, but we've all known many a BM from here who thinks nothing of PAS'ing her children against bio-dad and SM, of course, and is constantly chirping at the kids, "You don't have to listen to SM. She's nothing to you." You better believe that type of BM IS a challenge to a SM's status as a wife, because BM is making it very clear that she is still large and in charge of bio-dad, kids, and SM herself.

You are correct, tho., that "Some families make it work." Most of us also know families as you describe above, where BM, SM and DH and kids all hang out together with little to no problems. Usually, in those cases all involved are motivated to make it work. BM pushes her kids to accept SM, DH pushes kids to accept SM, and SM steps back and does not feel her role as dad's wife is challenged. BUT, that is more or less the order of acceptance that has to come first. Many a SM starts off thinking that her and DH are husband and wife and everyone is okay with this. It is usually only after she gets her a$$ kicked a couple of times that the fear and doubts start to creep in. It may be real or it may be largely imagined, but either way, there is a basis for her to feel BM's presence is a challenge to her status.

And, Happy Blended Family has to start with BM giving the kids permission to like SM. Unless you have a strong DH, and many of us here do not, without BM's permission, there is no way the family is going to make it work, and unfortunately that is just the way some BMs want it.

Acratopotes's picture

You left your husbands name in the post...

and if BM is going, then why don't you and DH simply do not go.... you can't tell people what to do in their homes, and you can't dictate a guest list... but you can decline going...

ldvilen's picture

I like to add to0 that one of the harsh realities of being a SM is when you realize that even tho. you and DH are married, some will still see BM as a family member, and not you, especially if BM and DH have been married for years and your and DH's marriage to you is relatively new. Heck, I've read more than once here where BM, even tho. she left DH and may have left him for another man even, is more accepted by DH's family than DH himself or his new wife.

I see where you are coming from being a new SM and probably not married before--you are just assuming you are family now by marriage. Happens all the time with relatives, they marry so-and-so and they are instantly welcomed into the family. SS comes home from overseas with a wife, and everyone is instantly fawning all over her welcoming her into the family fold. BUT, with SM, for some reason it is a different story.

People in DH's family saw DH and his ex- have kids, saw them over many years at different events, watched the kids grow up, and so on. Divorce is hard on a lot of people and just not mom, dad and the kids. No matter the reason for the divorce, given all of the history with BM and dad and the kids, it is much easier to just pretend the divorce never happened and SM is just some off-figure in the distance somewhere, even tho. one could argue that BM gave up the right to be considered part of the family after the divorce. Also, grandparents, in particular, might be afraid that they won't see their GKs any more if they alienate BM.

There are a lot of things that are hypocritical and unfair and double-standard for SMs, but like ChiefGrownup says, there is not much you can do other than control yourself and your own actions. Given that history and with BM holding the mother card, she can come out smelling like a sweet rose every time. Fair or not, most will play the "they are the parents" card, even tho. the event may clearly be meant for couples and one should assume that a married couple = couple. I always say, BM gets a infinite number of passes, DH at least a few, and SM gets none.

So, if it is important for you and your DH to be a couple and considered as a couple in the eyes of ALL of the family, then your options are, unfortunately, limited. But, that doesn't mean you have to suck up and take anything you don't want. There are options. But, like a different poster said above, too many people are used to seeing BM's car in the family driveway rather than yours. Getting that out of their minds is not as easy as you'd think, and there is no way you can force an image out of someone's mind.

In the end, a SM has to do what works for her, because through no fault of her own, she got herself slap dab in the middle of someone else's divorce or family issue. It is almost literally liked you jump into the middle of a cage fight when you became involved with or married DH, whether a SM realizes it or not. You are going to be jumped on, kicked, shocked and surprised. Tricks are going to be pulled. Very few SMs expect this. Most of the people toward the outside of the cage fare better. But, if you want to jump right in, that is totally up to you.

I know I have no intention of living my life with my DH on the outside looking in, and it took me years, but at least for myself now I have a better understanding when to try to stay out of the fray and when not to. If it is that important to you, jump right in and go for it big time with your head held high and your nails sharpened.

momof4andsk's picture

My first ex-husband's family still tells me all the time that just because he and I aren't married anymore, doesn't mean we're not family (especially because I am still their granddaughter's mom). I think it's very sweet and it's gteat for my daughter that we are all still friendly. HOWEVER, I would not feel comfortable hanging out at their family reunion, especially with his new wife there. I really don't like staying and talking if his new wife is there, considering she is hostile to me (she is hostile to everyone, which I think is the reason they're always so happy to see me, lol). If the BM had any sense, she would know how to bow out gracefully, but she obviously doesn't. Shake it off. You can still get to know his family. Just go and be your charming self and outshine her! Then go home and make your husband happy, I am sure that's all they care about in the end.

Rags's picture

Do not abdicate your place at the reunion and do not allow the X to force you not to go. Go, you and DH be happy, you be radiant, and crush the X when she shows up by asking her to leave or depart any conversation that you and your DH are having with family members.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Make it clear that she is not welcome. Over, and over, and over again.

Enjoy~ }:)

stepmom48's picture

Thank you for everyone's point of view...
update:
this year we completely ignored the EX. She showed up not with any of her adult kids for the first time, but used her grand kids to come and brought them instead so she has excuse to come, we laughed. really? If she is so good and tight with my husbands father's family, why could she not come by herself? I feel sorry for her, she never dated after my husband left her and has no life these last 25 years..so she keeps coming to her ex's family reunion even when kids are grown? My husbands mother divorced his father when he was only 6 months old, but his mom never went to her ex's family reunion. .. see what I mean?

Any how, We didn't show up until the end purposely and the whole family when I came jumped up to hug me and him with arms up etc very excited..... 2 older cousins didn't like that my hub and I didn't want Ex there and told us to ignore and just come anyhow... at least we made our wishes known and the family needs to understand OUR boundaries and accept them if they want to be in our lives... and just because we see it differently than some of them, does't mean we are wrong, they have to accept me and my husband and how we both feel . Its a two way street.

so yeah.. I crushed it and the ex had to watch everyone get excited and run to me.. they have never done that to her in the three years she went that I witnessed...i honestly think she used kids this year to justify her existence ...I have the husband and have for the last 4 years so shes the one jealous not me..... just to reiterate... my husband and was only married to the ex for 7 years and he left her 25 yrs ago.... he has dated 2 other women since then, but not married to any one until me...

I'm not intimidated but I think that it is just not her place any more when kids are grown, I think it is wrong to put yourself out there like that and it is disrespectful to him and me... my husband does not go to her family reunions, so why does she have to go to his when he left her and moved on?...( like the rest of us who divorced and moved on.. I was married before too and had 3 kids with an ex this is not my first marriage and I have a great relationship with my 6 step children and one I am raining in our home who calls me mom , she is 11, the others are 32, 30, 27, 25, 17). I just wanted to know if it was OK to be feeling like the ex doesn't know her boundaries.
I mean if your ex leaves you do you keep pushing in his face or do u accept and move on and create a new life with your family and a new family? in my eyes, yes..leave the ex and his family behind, you can be civil with out being in their face and you will survive. my kids and I did. He raised civil with her but he doesn't need to party with her.

I asked my own family and other families and their response was supportive of mine. There comes a time and place when the kids are grown and you are no longer raising them to leave and move forward finally as the job is finally done. you leave the civil stuff to only events that involve the kids/grandkids..

My family doesn't invite' their EX's to family reunions, as to not disrespect the family member's wishes-- so why would anyone force us to I have to accept this? I honestly think they should respect the wishes of my husband and I both if he don't want it and neither do I, then do what he asks, after all he is the real family member, not the ex over 25 yrs ago who was only married for handful of years. they did not spend a lifetime together, he had 3 more kids after her with another woman he never married.

I don't go to my EX's family reunions either but I do keep in touch with the ex sister-in-law. but that's it. i dont g barging in to my ex's family stuff now that we are divorced and have been for over 16 years. I feel his Ex can hang and keep in touch with his family on their own time, not on ours. His family reunions are our time, not hers any more and she has to accept that.

Now that my husband has re-married me, she should go find her life with someone else and stop going ---her time is completely done. she looks foolish.

So last year she she did not go so we had a great time.., but this year she grabbed the grandkids but their parents didn't come( my husband's daughter and son in law)..so she had a reason to go. she wont go on her own interestingly enough.. always has to have a kid to assert, but she has no position but being the EX.

I watched the last few reaunions she came and his family didn't really hang with her at all yet they tell us we have to accept her coming???, instead she played with her 2 little grandkids this year and her son..... honestly she could do that at her own house... I think she is still trying to assert her place when there is none and hasn't been.

There is a reason people are EX's....as hurtful as it can be you can heal and move on and create a new life without your ex's family.. we did it.. we need to be left alone to do our thing with out the past in our face as we are trying to create our new life together.... The chapter is now closed.

Disneyfan's picture

If the family did not want BM to attend, they would have said something TWO DECADES ago.

It's possible for them to be excited to see AND still enjoy having BM there.

They should not have to change the way they hgave celebrated to 20+years just to accommodate you.

Livingoutloud's picture

You sound jealous.

If you have good marriage I don't see why do you care about ex attending a reunion? She is obviously invited. They probably ran to you to make you comfortable because they know you feel awkward (family onbviousky discussed that you are upset over ex attending). They maybe discussed that they need to make an extra effort to make you welcome so you aren't upset.

They likely didn't need to run and welcome BM because they know her well for many years and know she is content and comfortable. You on the contrary aren't comfortable.

Some other comments are weird. Why is it bad for her to bring grandkids to a reunion? How do you know she didn't date for 25 years? Who knows what she does in her private time. When I remarried my ex knew but when I was single he had no ways of knowing who and when I am dating. That's private. Does your DH told you she doesn't date? How does he know? Is he saying it to you so you don't feel insecure about her?