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Disengagment Otherwise Insane

Cover1W's picture

1) THE ROOM:
DH was AGAIN taking out SDs trash for them and complaining about how 'disgusting' is was and how they just leave it. I told him "Why should they do it if they know you'll do it for them?" He says that they should do it...me,"Then you don't touch it and make them do it!" "But it's gross!" he states. "And that's exactly why you leave it for them to LEARN that!" And he comes back with..."They don't separate the trash and recycle." Me, exasperated, "Yes you need to watch them and make sure they do it and do it right and that means you make the effort!"

Then I watched him finish taking out the trash for them and then he moved on to cleaning up all the dirty dishes from SD13s room. Her room was likely the worst I've seen it in a long time. I continue to shut the door and walk away. He's starting to ask why it gets like that and how disrespectful it is for everyone but does not enforce any rules at all and continues to clean up after her.

2) THE LOCK:
I came home before DH on Friday and found the front door unlocked AGAIN.
When DH came home I asked him if he had been home yet.
"No, was the door unlocked?"
Yes, it was. And I've about had it with SD13 not locking it.
"Well, she's getting better."
It's not about doing it sometimes, it's about each and every single time.
"No, she has been better."
Well, every time I come home first, that door's unlocked. I've talked with you, I've spoken with her and no one seems to care. It's been two years of me discussing this. If I come home ONE MORE TIME and that door is unlocked, I'm hiring a locksmith to install auto-locks/keypads and you are paying for 100% of it. 100%!
"Well, ok then..." trailed off with nothing to say...
You know that this isn't just about stuff, it's about personal safety and learning to take care of yourself and things. When she goes to college or is on her own she needs to already know how to lock a door.
"But college isn't the real world, it's not like living on your own."
Come on DH! College can be WORSE with random people walking around the dorms or student apartments. She needs to learn NOW how to be aware of this stuff...
And then I throw up my hands and walk away. Done with that.

3) SUMMER VACATION:
DH says he notices I've removed the vacation days from our joint calendar.
"Yes, you never worked with me on the planning so I stopped planning. There's also no affordable rentals left in that area so we can't go."
Well, we could got to X place.
"The place you wanted to go to anyway. Fine. You plan it. I'll contribute $ to it, but I'm not paying for 50% of the cost as it's more expense than I wanted to do."
And conversation over.

Disengagement is the only thing that saves me from going crazy.
I'll discuss it but won't take any blame.
DH also knows my "if you continue talking about SDs I'm going to strangle you" look.
He actually said this weekend, about my niece helping my sister around the house while she's studying for an exam..."Niece is really helpful and mature about those things. She does more than the SDs." Yes, DH, because her parents have demanded it and taught her how.

Comments

skatermom's picture

I'm also not planning anything. I usually do most of the planning and paying as DH will just sit back and wait for something to happen, no more.

ESMOD's picture

I think you are dealing with things really well. I like how you point out to him how you are not just complaining about her door locking for the heck of it. It's for her safety. You want her to not have a problem in the future etc... I think it really helps if our feedback can take a perspective of it actually coming from a place where we are trying to help the skids.

I think it sounds like she needs to have a new rule of no eating or drinking in her room. I think dad can say.. Well, you don't take out your trash and leave plates in your room.. Since you can't act responsibly, you lose that privilege.

Also WTG on the vacation thing. If he wants it bad enough, he will plan it out.

Cover1W's picture

OH, I've been there done that with the room cleaning/food issue.
NOTHING happens b/c DH doesn't have any rules.
I become the bad person.
I simply make sure the door is shut. That's it.

Salems Lot's picture

I'm not planning any vacation either.
My son wants to fly me out to BC (all by myself) for my 50th. Maybe I'll take him up on it..LOL

bearcub25's picture

SD16 is the same way. She had ants really bad last month. DSO actually said, I'm surprised you don't have 500 mice with all the garbage and uneaten food laying there.

I had to go on the disengagement train with her and her room 3 years ago. Never changes, DSO doesn't enforce, and I don't touch her room.

Edited to add: I do go to battle with her over towels. She does her own laundry but only washes a towel or 2 for her to use. The rest disappear in her room and I have to throw a huge every few months to get some for the rest of the family.

Cover1W's picture

Same issue with the house towels.
I have separated the towels for the master bath into the master closet for DH and I so we have them.
SD13 will use 2 towels per shower, then leave them on her floor to molder.
She actually has said, "It's gross to use a towel more than one time." BUT she lives with moldy food, moldy towels, sheets not washed for 6 months, wears pjs not washed for 6 months, dirty socks and underwear all over the place, etc. She never, ever does laundry on her own and constantly wears dirty clothing. And a freshly used towel is disgusting.

I told DH recently that I no longer monitor the house towels nor do I wash them. We had plenty of them last year and I don't go into SD13s room to get them. If he and she run out of towels he can either wash them or buy more (we don't have any beach towels for the pool right now either - they lost ALL of them last year...oh yes, I do have one stashed away for my own use.). SD11 has taken to storing her towels in her bedroom as well so she doesn't lose them.

Monchichi's picture

I would fumigate SD's room weekly to get my point across to them all. I would literally put a fogger or equivalent in the middle of her room, let it off and seal her door with tape to make sure it doesn't permeate my house. I would not be able to cope with what you are dealing with. My compulsions wouldn't allow for it.

Acratopotes's picture

simply NO...

Locks will be changed and OSD and DH will not get keys again, I recall DH making her a copy cause she lost her key...
thus she did not get any better, simply get a new lock and SD can not come and go as she please, she will have to wait till an adult person is there..

due to these reasons Aergia lost her house key 3 months shy of her 18th birthday... she's not happy about it but SO simply said, you are not responsible with the key thus you can not get a new key...

Cover1W's picture

Yep, we got a new lock and DH made her a key.
I have told him she can wait outside till we get home (the look of horror on his face!)

I'm certain I'll be hiring the locksmith within the month; I haven't really broached the subject with him before so I need to let it sink in first (because I know him) and THEN do it. And yes, I will not spend any of my time/effort/money on this - besides making the appointment. I could install them on my own, but nope, not doing that either.