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I posted in General Discussion but they said to post here... BM is openly denying SO to speak to his children what do we do

buterfly_2011's picture
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Court papers say:

Parent B may contact children 3x a week. And the calls can't be monitored by Parent A.

Two nights ago we got a text from BM that said until we buy a phone for skids they will not be permitted to speak to my SO. AND when he does buy them one she will be listening in on all the calls. Skids are 11, 15 and 17. We have some papers headed to her regarding other things but now this. We don't know what to do. Should he text her back and ask to speak to the kids so she keeps texting telling us no? So we have that documented more than once? He has tried to send them messages via facebook and has gotten no response. We just don't know what to do. They are 6 hours away. She has told him that since he is a POS father who won't give MORE money then they are HER kids.... we give her exactly what they agreed upon when they divorced. But every week it's more and more and more. He just doesn't know what to do anymore. Every week its something but she has never denied him access to the kids.

hippiegirl's picture

Well, if he pays the b!tch child support, then why can't she buy phones?

Orange County Ca's picture

The order implies that the equipment be supplied by her. She can use either the house land line or her own cell phone and pass it around to the kids. Just ignore her demand now and if this ends up in court.

Her failure to abode by the court order is a criminal violation. First Daddy should have his attorney send her a letter pointing that out and declaring intent to make that charge should she not comply with the order. Or he can send it himself - return receipt requested and a back-up regular mail.

Then he sends her a email making reference to only one thing - the contact phone number he is to call to speak to his children in accordance with the courts order dated ........ docket number....... etc - you get the idea. He saves and prints out the email and any response. No back and forth. Just what's the number? She answers. Print out both (I presume she doesn't provide a number).

Dad calls the number provided or her land line/cell number if none is provided and notes the time and date. Subpoened phone records will show the shortness of the calls. This part becomes difficult because he should get a disinterested third party to witness the attempt. But he doesn't need a lot of attempts. Two or three over two or three days will do. Three days in a row are fine - it'll be done in a week. The witness notes the time, date and what number was called.

Then he asks that the court find her in criminal contempt. Easy and expensive unless he can do all the filings himself.

Journey1982's picture

I've only been a part of this site for a short time. I have read a lot about CS and the nasty things BMs do to their ex to get back at them (for whatever reason) and to keep them from seeing their childred. I totally understand what everyone is going through because my SO suffers the same problems.

My question is, what are these BMs going to do when the CS ends and they have to support themselves and they no longer have control over their kids and how much contact they have with their father?

Just wondering what my SO has to look forward to in about 16 months, which is when CS will stop and his daughter can contact her dad anytime she wants. When I first met SO he was paying for everything his daughter needed, including medical bills, and extra activities she participated in, in addition to the CS. He finally had to put an end to everything except CS (because thats all he was required to pay) because he couldn't afford it anymore. Plus BM was buying Coach purses and she purchased herself a new $40K car. When he stop paying everything, his BM cried poor mouth and said she could not afford to live because he didn't pay her enough and then thats when the fun began - PAS. Believe me, he pays a lot for 1 child.

Can anyone tell me their experiences?

buterfly_2011's picture

My SO has been paying for everything for the past 5 years. As well as CO CS. So she has been living free and clear of having to do much other than go back to school. Now that he has put a stop to all the extras that's when crap started. Now he is a worthless POS. And now her BF is the savior who is taking care of HER babies. Please....... we have 13 more years of this. I am trying to decide if this is the life I want to live for the next 13 years.

NJStepmom's picture

Hi, What is SO?
My fiancé now only communicates with the BM via email. It got worse at first, but now it is much better. And having her write emails has created a great set of documents to her irrational behavior etc. And you say she does not prevent access to the kids, but interfering with telephone calls is interfering with access.

buterfly_2011's picture

I use it for significant other. We aren't married.

NJStepmom's picture

I strongly second what Orange County CA said. I went through something similar very recently. Document, document, document. And representing yourself Pro Se in this kind of matter is very easy. It is a cut and dried situation. Where are you?

StepKidto3Momto3's picture

SO can file in court and ask that she be held in contempt.

He could also provide a cheap cell phone that can only call his cell phone (Verizon's usage controls are great for this).