Help with Husband being rude towards his step children
My husband and I have been married for 6 years now and my two sons (not from him) are 16 and 12! Neither one gets along with him and he seems to be very rude towards my 16 year old the most. He just says dumb childish things like "Lady's First" when my sone attempts to be nice and open the door for him as he is carrying laundry upstairs. Then he makes both of them do crazy amounts of chores or at least did for a while until I fought for them not to! My 16 year old has a really hard time making friends and he started a new school this year with all AP classes. I think my husband has a lot to do with it as he is just rude to my son. The other night we were all sitting down for family dinner and my son got coffee to drink and was walking back to the table to sit down and my husband moved his chair (supposedly by accident) when he went by and hit my son knocking coffee all over him! Now instead of saying are you ok? I'm sorry....He started yelling at my son for running into his chair!!! No i'm sorry, no are you ok? Just yelling at him for running into him and how stupid he is! I'm at a loss as I have three other children 5,3,and 1 by my husband and I hate to just walk out and raise them without their father, but I also don't want them turning out like this either!! I mentioned this to my husband about saying sorry and he didn't think he needed to say sorry, it wasn't his fault it was my son's!! The next day he was an hour late to pick up my son from school and never called him to tell him he was running late because he left the phone at home. But when he got there he NEVER said sorry a simple sorry I was late!! Instead he told him the extra stops he was stopping and if complained then he could add more...knowing that my son hates to stop after school anywhere because of all his homework he has!! My 16 year old ended up getting out of the car over arguing with him and walked all the way home!
What should I do?? We don't have a lot of money for conceling and everything as my husband works a real crappy low pay job and I stay home with the kids, usually the one that drives everyone to and from school and work. He says that my son just doesn't like him and everyone is out to get him, but it's him that just doesn't treat anyone with respect. He is controlling and always has to be right. I love my husband but I wish he'd just care about his family a bit more and his step kids as his own kids.
Personally I think your
Personally I think your husband does not like your older two kids and is trying to get rid of them. If he is like this to you and his bios then you need to leave or resign yourself to the fact that you married an abusive jerk who doesn't care for you or anyone else.
I guess I should have
I guess I should have explained the chair thing a little better. He didn't pull the chair out of under my son!! That would have been much worse. My husband was sitting down in his chair and he moved his chair back to adjust his chair to the table and my son was walking by and walked into his chair causing the coffee to spill on him. I do believe this was an accident, but the point of it is why not say sorry?? and ask if he was ok, instead of yelling at him for spilling coffee and running into his chair???
>>Then he makes both of them
>>Then he makes both of them do crazy amounts of chores or at least did for a while until I fought for them not to!<<
This stuck out at me. While I'm not condoning what your DH did with the chair incident, I wonder if this is your DH's passive aggressive protest against something. Sometimes when we are in situations we don't like we don't always deal with them in a healthy way.
Are there any reasons your DH could be feeling frustrated or resentful of the situation he's in?
You mentioned you disagreed on the amount of chores the boys should do. Does he feel your sons are lazy and don't help out around the house enough?
>>My 16 year old has a really hard time making friends and he started a new school this year with all AP classes. I think my husband has a lot to do with it as he is just rude to my son.<<
How does your husband have anything to do with your son having trouble making friends? :?
You have five kids in the house. You state that you don't work and your DH has a crappy, low paying job. Do you get CS for your two older sons? Could it be your DH feels he is working to support your sons? This could be his view of things.
Regarding being an hour late to pick up your son. Could it be your DH resented having to pick up your son, especially since you don't work? I'm not trying to blame you, mind you, I'm just trying to get into your DH's head.
I know some men, when they don't want to do something, instead of just saying no, will do something like this, i.e. be an hour late to pick up the boy, and then proclaim he has a lot of stops to make, knowing this would annoy your son. This is a passive aggressive method to make sure you don't ask him to pick up your son again.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/passive-aggressive-behavior/AN01563
"A passive-aggressive person might appear to agree — perhaps even enthusiastically — with another person's request. Rather than complying with the request, however, he or she might express anger or resentment by failing to follow through or missing deadlines."
No he was late due to both of
No he was late due to both of us getting shopping out of the way while our over active 5 year was in school. My husband got cut at 3 hours of work and we went to sams club to pick up food for the month. I stayed home to take care of it as the freezer needed cleaning and he was late to leave to pick up the kids. He left the phone at home in a rush, so I am not mad about the fact he was late, although with traffic it should have only been 40mins late, but regardless, it's the fact he should have addressed the opening, "I'm sorry I'm late, but your mom and I got food shopping out of the way so you don't need to worry about coming shopping. I had to pick up your brothers first so they weren't in aftercare and then I picked you up right afterwards...I left the phone at home. Sorry, did your mom call?" Instead he tries to start an argument with him. He annoys him by telling him all the extra stops he can ad. It was something so little that could have been prevented had I just gone and left him cleaning the freezer and putting away the food, but I didn't think it would have gone that way. Of course if I hadn't left my phone and purse in the car then I could have called my son myself and tell him the situation so he wouldn't have been so upset too. I guess it's a small thing, but I expect him to just relate to the situation like I do and try to make it better, instead of edging people on and picking. Am I right?
He used to not be this way
He used to not be this way though or I would have never married him!! He used to get mad at his boss for saying his stepkids as he called them his kids!! He used to take the boys (two older ones/mine) out all the time, concerts, busch gardens and movies. It wasn't until the last baby was born that he changed. He changed with all the kids, not just the older ones. He didn't want another child and I did. Well I didn't plan on it, but I was happy I was pregnant and he wasn't. He got harder on my older children and frustrated with our(smaller children) I'm not making up excuses, but I really thought it was just the pressure of another baby to support and the fact we didn't have a lot of money, but I thought he'd get a better job and he'd change! He didn't want to get a better job, instead I started working from home and I cover the rent, he barely covers the utilizes! I thought this was marriage until my mother came down and pointed it out even more. Yes he thinks the kids are lazy and that I am a push over. Maybe I am a little, but it's because I feel bad not staying with their real dad and I want to make sure they have everything that their friend's have. My 12 year old goes to a school that is charter, but most of the kids are rich so I fight to rent in a good area, nice house and pay way too much for our medium size home! I want my kids to have every oppurtity they can have and my 16 year old skipped a grade, all AP classes so it's really stressful for him to keep up, so I can't put a normal chore chart on him!
Thank you. I don't believe
Thank you. I don't believe in abortion so I would never not have a child. But really I met thank you for saying to not disney parenting. I admit I am at fault for that, that is why I made a chore chart and stuck to it for the boys. I still give them more then what my husband thinks I should, but that is my choice not his. My son couldn't handle a job or a car as he needs to focus on his studies and along with skipping a grade his maturity level is just not there for studying like he should. He just turned 16 so driver's ed is on the list as I was the one that wouldn't let him take it until 16 years as I don't think he was ready. He is extremely smart in books, but not street smart.
It sounds like you're putting
It sounds like you're putting heavy financial stress on your family in order to keep up with the Joneses.
I can see why your husband may be angry, but that's no reason to be an ass toward your kids.
How can you love a man so
How can you love a man so much that you would allow this to happen to your kids?
Protecting all of your children should be more important than having a few of them grow up in an intact family.
If he didn't want another
If he didn't want another child, he should have went in for a quick snip snip.
The main issue is that he's a
The main issue is that he's a jackass.
You're right. We would hear
You're right. We would hear about all the poor choices mom has made and how awful the kids are. We would not hear about the way he treats her kids.
He has a right to be upet about the money issues (but not the baby). But the way he is treating the kids is just wrong.
I was told the chore chart
I was told the chore chart wasn't really that bad. I am a push over when it comes to chores. It's because the older ones have helped out a lot with babysitting and helping out with the little ones when they were little little I don't like adding anything extra to there plate durning the school year week and my husband thinks they need responsibilities or they won't be able to do anything without mommy! One only takes the trash out on Monday nights and Thursday nights to the road and mows our lawn twice a month (our lawn is very small as we live in the city with little grass!) Other one unloads dishes or puts dishes away nightly. Use to be dishes every night and trash to the dumpster for the other kid or they would take turns and babysit on weekends well both of us was working. Now I don't have my 16 year old babysit as he not reliable. My 16 year old and husband use to get along but my husband is demanding and wants things done his way. My 16 year old wants things done his way. You see where I am going with this. They both have an over powering attitude. He stopped repecting my husband when my husband started discipling him when he was 10 years old for about 2 years then I told him they were my children and he could disciple his own kids but not the older ones. My 16 year old hated moving away when we got married and I think he blames his step dad for that as we are 1200 miles from his grandparents and dad. He sees them all 3 times a year from my pocket. I thought the move would be good for all of us, but my 16 year old just never accepted it. So there is a lot of hate between them. My husband says how can he respect a child that hates him and my son says he's not going to respect his stepfather when he clearly hates him and is just a jerk to him! I am in the middle and so are his three siblings that are by his stepdad. I clearly wouldn't stay if abuse was going on as I left my first husband the moment he touched me and looked at my son! I was a single parent for 9 years and I could do it again if need be, but I don't know if this is fixable for everyone. I worry about the smaller kids without there dad in there life. I love my husband, but I love my older children more!!
Ok so lets say her kids are
Ok so lets say her kids are assholes. Even if they are, his behaviour is abusive. THAT'S the issue.
my two older children are
my two older children are from someone else and I was never married to him. my husband and I got married when my oldest was 9 almost 10. I think he is too over demanding to answer your question. He asks too much from them. My son can be lazy sometimes, but he goes to school and does homework most of the night. He takes all college classes in high school.
"He used to get mad at his
"He used to get mad at his boss for saying his stepkids as he called them his kids!!"
This is a ploy at best. Sounds like your DH resents the fact that he is working at a crappy, low paying job and has to support your older bio sons. In my case, Guilty Daddy, who did years and years of butt kissing his now PASed out and well on their way to failure--children (my skids) who were truly (and still are) DEMONS, yet always trying to be passive aggressive with my GROWN bios who are respectful, productive and don't cause him any trouble whatsoever.
Guilty Daddy has referred to my bioson (stb 26 and in the Air Force) as "his son" blah blah blah. When in truth he has done things like illogically infer bad motives (Bioson drained the lawnmower battery on purpose--this after bioson asking if he could mow the lawn for us) or small things like cheer for ANY OPPOSITE football team that is playing my bioson's fav team. Then when bioson comes to visit with his GF, pretend that he is FOR bioson's team. Saying things like "your son will NEVER make it in the Air Force!" Yeah, well he HAS and is climbing up the ranks--wrong again Guilty Daddy.
Just because Guilty Daddy's children are mental midgets, uber failng in school,budding felons, and he let the BM just take right over while he rolled over, he needs to "take it out" on someone.
In your case, he's taking out his frustrations (obviously) on your older biosons. Either they go to live with their biodad--which will be hell because if you have to pay CS while they live at their biodad's, DH will have yet another thing to whine, complain and be resentful over. Or you stand up to DH which, from the sound of it, will put the proverbial last nail in the coffin.
Ooh boy.... Okay. Take this
Ooh boy....
Okay. Take this advice for what it is. I am not the burning bush here but there are aspects of your post that struck me in how my relationship was with my own father. My father wasn't abusive. Controlling? Yes. But he bent over backwards for my Mom, me and my brother. At one point he was working 3 jobs to make ends meet. That kind of stress takes its toll on a man. I am not saying that to excuse the way he is treating you and your kids but please hear me out. When a man (and this equally applies to women but I am sticking with a man's physiology for the sake of brevity) gets over-worked and over-stressed, the blood flow to their brain gets funneled to their Amygdalla. That's the portion of the brain responsible for a man's "fight-or-flight" response to any situation. The more stress heaped on the man, the less likely he is capable of rational "higher intelligent" thought. You mentioned that he was not always like this. Well from the way I read your posts, this is what is happening to your husband. Any slight, or innocent accident will automatically be seen by him as an attack on him and that is why he is responding to your children the way he is. It's a vicious cycle. The less respect he gives, the less respect he gets in return until he reaches a breaking point and he will - inevitably - snap.
I hope I am not frightening you or anything, but your husband is in a place right now where he is in "seige mode". Any approach is seen as a threat. Any gesture towards him is viewed as an attack. I've seen it happen with my own father and I was fortunate to recognize it in me when it was starting to happen to me.
There are two things I would suggest to him that he do immediately. I know you said that family councelling is something you cannot afford, but he NEEDS to talk to someone outside his family circle in order to get some perspective. Maybe a close friend? A relative? A priest? I dunno, but until your husband has given himself a chance to unwind, he will not likely get any better. The second thing I would look at are the basics; sleeping, proper food and exercise. If any of those are out of whack, his ability to handle stress will be diminished.
Anyone who treated my kids
Anyone who treated my kids that way would have to have my shoe surgically removed from thier anus. Whatever the extraneous problems in your life, woman up and stick up for you kids. My mother's husband told me at age 15 that I had a terrible personality and would never get anywhere in life. Very calmly and in great detail, within earshot of my mother. "Crushing" doesn't even begin to describe what that did to me. Now, I love my mom to death, she's my only living parent- but our relationship changed forever, on that day.
>>He stopped repecting my
>>He stopped repecting my husband when my husband started discipling him when he was 10 years old for about 2 years then I told him they were my children and he could disciple his own kids but not the older ones.<<
So you want your DH to consider your two oldest children his, but he's not allowed to discipline them as if they were his? You see the double standard here?
I noticed another statement you made:
>>I still give them more then what my husband thinks I should, but that is my choice not his.<< Again, how can you expect your husband to treat your two oldest as his, when he's not allowed to make any decisions regarding them?
I don't think anyone is condoning your DH's behavior, but it seems like both parties are contributing to the problem. Like Draco said, stress takes a toll on a person.
Maybe you can sit down and talk with your DH. See if both of you can work out a compromise regarding the discipline and chore issues.
Well someone sure has a lack
Well someone sure has a lack of respect for their husband. I'm a step dad and I'll tell you what I make my step kids do one substantial chore every day except Sabbath. By doing this there is a treasure trove of family peace to be had.
A - your kids will respect you because guess what if you don't make them do it, no one will (especially mommy)and they will look to you as an authority figure aka parent, and guess what that's what you are a parent and that's what makes a parent, Discipline.
B - your wife will also respect you more for being the man you born to be aaaaand guess what she won't have to do all the work in the house and can actually enjoy her babies or anything else she wants to do.
And your obvious disregard for his job, ugh I feel sorry for this unappreciated poor schmuck. A wife who doesn't stand by him. Especially when he messes up. Given he needs to be more humble and apologize but it sounds like you guys are going at him with GUNZ BLAZING he probably doesn't want to back down knowing that will give you guys just that extra inch you need to feel justified in whipping your mule just one more time. But no you're right he needs to kiss your son's golden hiney every time he bruises it from walking into chairs....
oh and btw my kids got voted
oh and btw my kids got voted into high school leadership have straight A's both are in sports when before they didn't do anything, play an instrument and both love me dearly.
Before I came along 2 years ago they hung out at home watching tv playing video games with c's and d's with a dead beat NON-DISCIPLINARY dad. With God's help and the guidance that He has in His word about parenting, we've come a long way in a short period of time, and I know that if you give your husband the respect he deserves, you and your kids will get the love and compassion you yearn for as well.
Wow. You want your husband to
Wow. You want your husband to treat your older kids as his own, but not discipline them or give them chores - while you pop out more kids, sit on your ass and be a Disney parent.
I don't agree with the way he acts towards your older kids, but I understand it.
He's supporting 7 people and you're ungrateful. You have no respect for your husband at all. All this contention is just as much your fault. You're lazy and so are your older kids. If I were your husband, I'd take my three kids and leave you.
Well I don't think someone
Well I don't think someone that works their **** off is lazy. I am the one that pays the rent and most of the utilizes. He takes care of the gas and a bill or two. We both work together with ebay to pay some of it. but his job only covers the gas and a water bill per month!!! He works 25-30hours. I am working from home to cover the rest and all the child support goes towards rent. We don't live in a rich hw ouse, normal housing, 4 bedroom decent area. This is where I am getting frustrated at as he is happy with his 9.50-10 dollar an hour job with hours of 25-30!!! You tell me how $1200 a month can pay anything before taxes are taken out??? I may not work outside the home, but I do work from home making money while taking care of kids and cleaning the house. I do telemarking and sales. I am also trying to reopen my photography business I used to have 7 years ago before we moved 1200 miles away. (which I wanted to move because I thought it would be better with the housing oppurity we had at the time. fell through later..) Yes I want him to get a better job...this is why. I don't have him discipline them as I don't believe in spanking. we have together grounded them and took away things. Maybe I didn't clarify the displine part enough.