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TrueNorth77's picture

SD14 started her job this week. Woohoo!! I am thrilled because it means this kid will finally leave the house, but I was just waiting for this issue to come up, and so it has, on day 2.

SD works 11-3 today. DH works 3pm-11pm, but he is going in early for an interview for a Manager position (he's a Supervisor now). Which means DH can only take SD to work, not pick her up. SD has an electric scooter, but apparently there is just NO place at her work for her to keep it inside. (It's very small- I told her to ask, but I know she didn't). She had even asked for a lock for it for her bday, and I suggested we get her the lock and some other things, but DH just had to get her the more "fun" things, like Bose earbuds and a makeup case. DH ordered the lock 2 days ago (see, wouldn't it have been better to get it as a gift?, especially since DH is tight on cash?) but it's not coming until later today. DH asked if I can pick SD up from work at 3. I WFH and had planned on going shopping at that time 25 mins away, so I could get it done early and relax outside after. I don't want to leave after 3pm. Here is the thing: SD's job is WALKABLE. Everything in our town is walkable. There are 5K people here. It is extremely safe, and small. I don't believe in giving kids rides to places that are ridiculously close. You see kids walking and riding bikes all the time. I would have never gotten a ride to this job at her age. In fact I rode my bike out into the country to my job. DH used to have to ride his bike 1.5 miles into town to school. I get that somehow the mindset has changed, but SD will get home and literally lay on her bed watching Tik Tok for the rest of the night once she gets home. It will not kill her to get excercise and walk 12 mins. DH for some reason just feels like he has to give skids rides everywhere. It drives me insane and I don't want to enable or encourage this lazyness, but I also feel guilty for telling DH no, because that is often my answer to him regarding skids since we have such different ideas of parenting. He often feels I push back on everything.  

I told DH I wasn't going to be home at that time and would be shopping, so he should have SD walk home. He said, hm. He obviously didn't like that idea and sat there thinking for a while. I just kept my mouth shut, but really I wanted to ask what his issue was with SD walking home from a very walkable location? He wasn't upset with me about it, thankfully, and we have gone through this exact issue with SS17 when he was this age, and my stance was the same then. We have gotten into arguments about it before. I just do not get it. He acts like they are walking 5 miles, instead of blocks. 

We are also supposed to go tubing with friends tomorrow, it's an annual adult outing, and he mentioned he "feels guilty for leaving tomorrow". I'm like...it's for part of the day, and she is 14, SS17 will be working all day...We can do things sometimes when SD is here, she's not a toddler. We haven't done anything without her in MONTHS. He said, I know, I still feel guilty because she doesn't have friends. Sigh. I patted his arm while silently screaming inside. The dad guilt is at an all-time high. 

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Cover1W's picture

The coddling drives me mad as well!  There was the whole debacle last fall with YSDthen16 and DH having mental gymnastics with her walking 5 minutes to the bus stop and waiting there for the bus. Manufactured incompetence.

DH has lately been better at planning things even if YSD might be at our home. I have told him several times I don't want to plan around YSD because we cannot. She gives no notice whether she'll be over or not, usually it's silence until the day before or the night before. I am not waiting. Last night he had heard nothing from her (haven't seen her for like 2 months now) and he was ok with meeting me in town for some social fun tonight anyway - and would do so even if she was coming.

I hope your DH goes with you, it's important to do so.

Progress.

TrueNorth77's picture

Good for you! I'm glad your DH is finally coming around. But I just cannot understand this struggle with having them walk 5 mins somewhere. It's not just our DH's either, my neighbor's 15yr old daughter works at the same place SD just started, and she will drop everything to go pick her up. She finally let her walk home the other day for the first time. 

DH is planning on coming tomorrow, I just hope he allows himself to have fun and not text SD the whole time to check on her and then overcompensate by treating her like she's 5. I just wonder when this will improve. I think when she gets friends to hang out with, but it's starting to feel like that will never happen....

Lillywy00's picture

Probably because they know crime is EVERYWHERE - even in 'safe' neighborhoods / upscale communities....there is no shortage of predators. 

I personally think anywhere in America is unsafe for women/girls/elderly to walk alone 

However that is NOT your problem to solve. Unless he is going to compensate you for transporting her while he's at work then HE needs to adjust his schedule to pick her up or pay a nanny to pick her up. Period!

Ispofacto's picture

Crime rates have varied over time, with a sharp rise after 1900 and reaching a broad bulging peak between the 1970s and early 1990s. After 1992, crime rates began to fall year by year and have since declined significantly.

Property crime — theft, auto theft and burglary — has been falling regularly for the last 20 years. Violent crime — aggravated assault, murder, rape and robbery — increased at least in 2020, but remains lower than it was in the 1990s.

 

Lillywy00's picture

Violent crime — aggravated assault, murder, rape and robbery — increased at least in 2020, but remains lower than it was in the 1990s.

This sound like something a man (who doesn't have to worry about being catcalled / preyed upon just for being a young female walking alone) would say. 
 

My city is dangerous as hell (a bit different from yours) but I'd never walk alone (regardless of what city I'm in) if I wasn't a man and/or without a weapon/gun. I've been catcalled, harassed by homeless panhandlers, men honking horn while driving, men trying to pick me up as if I'm a streetwalker, and more all while walking mere feet from my car to the destination. I can only image a young teen girl having to deal with this happening. 

Anyways OP let the dad rack his brain about how he can protect his daughter that's his job not yours  

Only downside to this is him realizing you can't/won't help him, telling his daughter it's not safe, her quitting her job, and clinging to you all summer long 

Maybe offer to help on occasion but make him compensate you heavily for the inconvenience to you  

 

Rags's picture

There are always sub groups in any factual statistic that are outliers to the data population.  Even the safest cities have crime.

The sad part is, those outliers are people/victims.

I have had harrassment issues, been approached by homeless people, and propositioned by pimps/hookers in more than one country and in more than one city domestically.  Had a coat stolen in a snatch and grab at a bus stop commuting to and from the office, had someone attempt to snatch a carry-on at an airport, had a taxi driver try to have me pay to let me out of the cab after I had paid the fare, had a cell phone grabbed in a scooter drive by. Though the grabber ended up eating the curb when I grabbed his arm that was holding my cell phone and he flipped face first into the curb with enough force that he was out cold. I took my phone and walked off. I my experience it is not a good idea to be a foreigner present at a crime scene in a 2nd or 3rd world country.   I have also had to pay  bribes a few times to police officers who pulled me over for driving Western in Middle East countries.

I am sorry that you have experience the harrassment, etc.  

Noway2b1's picture

I too rode my bike to work/school or took the bus at 15-16 in a not so small town. My DH couldn't let precious YSS (36 at the time) walk a 10-15 minute walk to our house most of 2022 when he would park his work truck at a gas station in order to visit us. It was to cold or to hot. Eye roll. He also was on call prior to this for many years when YSS would ride the Amtrak or bus into town to visit and always had a pickup anywhere from 10 pm to 3 am. I finally told DH "Why can't he just Uber here?" My own son was 16 and regularly caught Uber when I didn't want to get him after 10 pm. I think it's ok for a one off to go get her, if you didn't already have plans but I think you're smart setting that boundary now. 

TrueNorth77's picture

Good grief. Since when did walking become SOO bad? 

Lillywy00's picture

I hate it when they go into dad guilt/coddling mode

This dude does that too

He literally tried to have me driving into the hood (where his ex chose to enroll their kids) everyday at 3pm to pick up their kids because both of them worked and I was self-employed with a flexible schedule. 

First I had to make up excuses, dodge his calls, then I flat out told him NO!!! I'm not driving my luxury vehicle into the hood. It was not my choice to enroll them there (I would have sent them to a school with bus pickup), they are close enough to WALK (but I guess he's too scared for his son to walk through the hood - again not my problem, that's what your ex chose), and I thought he/his ex should meet some parents and carpool. He came up with unlimited excuses then stormed off and figured out his own solution to the problems him and his exwife created. 

Hare dare these people make all these choices for their kids that they cannot fulfill, then expect me to be the savior/do all the work uncompensated.

Now if it's a safe neighborhood then she can use her scooter. If your husband wants to coddle then he can adjust HIS work schedule and walk with her/transport her.

CLove's picture

YEP. Husband and Toxic Troll both have coddled and enabled both skids to point of disablement.

Very frustrating and husband expected me to do it also. Im done.

TrueNorth77's picture

She is lucky if she gets 50 steps. And she has a heart condition, her Dr. has made it clear she needs exercise. DH used to make her walk on the treadmill for like 3 weeks and then that went away. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.

TrueNorth77's picture

He did come tubing. The arm pat was to try and show I'm not a total asshole because I can be so exasperated with his dad guilt and the way he handles skids that I don't often show compassion, and I'm trying to remember he's doing the best I can and I can't bully the guilt out of him. That's just going to cause more issues with him and I. So, a little arm pat, he followed through on his adult committment with me, kthen spent yesterday coddling SD to make up for the guilt. 

Rags's picture

The self flagilation of guilt that so many prior breeders in blended marriages put themselves through is decidedly unattractive.

Fortunately, when my DW does it, it is short lived.

IMHO it is not about bullying it out of them. It is more about not letting them delude themselves or anyone else with it.

Harry's picture

About DH screwing up fun Adult time.   He has fun adult time with BM before the kids.  He needs  to be working on his relationship with you.  Picking up SD.  Not a big.  That seams to be what goes on today.  People drive to see people three houses away  

Rags's picture

Mess formation on a courtyard in the winter or summer when they were either freezing for cooking.

Before Military school, If we missed the bus, we walked, or more accurately ran, and we had better not be late for school, or for dinner after school

Adults have no business being catered to by their parents.  Some of these failed SKidults would be waiting... for ever... if they expected a ride from me. They can hike their happy asses or... not come to my home.  A specific situation, no problem with a ride.  Entitled laziness, they had better have learned to hike.

smh

Rumplestiltskin's picture

I don't know the layout of her walk home, so I can't say how safe it is. Some areas truly are safer than others. Assuming there's any chance it's not safe, if SD doesn't have a reliable way to get to and from work, voluntelling OP to do it is sh!tty. SD has 2 parents and a brother. Other solutions include 1) SD gets a job with hours where one of those 3 people or someone else is her designated ride. 2) SD only works shifts where someone else can bring her. 3) SD doesn't have a job. When parents try to guilt stepparents into doing things they don't want to do, it creates resentment and they wonder why the SP resents the child. OP isn't an extension of her husband that he can make use of whenever he wants. 

TrueNorth77's picture

Sure, crime can randomly happen anywhere...But, aside from keeping every kid in a bubble and never letting them go outside alone even in small safe towns, you make calls based on the area, crime rate, etc. We have zero crime, except occasional vandalism or the random car break-in. Depending on which way she walks home from work, it's all nice residential, and she passes DH work, a family she babysits for, a police officer's home, 3 friends homes (some ours, 1 hers), and other people she knows. It is a VERY small town. Kids are always off by themselves riding bikes and scooters, or walking. DH is not concerned about safety whatsoever- she rides the same exact route to the store on her scooter all the time, and he is always encouraging her to go out for a scooter ride, to the park, literally anywhere to get outside. For some reason it's the "walking" that is just SUCH a big deal, because he knows she doesn't want to, and heaven forbid a kid walk if they don't really want to. It defies logic honestly. 

CLove's picture

The weekend of Fathers Day, SD17 Powersulk was with us, and wanted to go to the mall which is 1.4 miles one way, about 30 mins walking distance. So...I dropped her off because I was doing some running around, and she went about her business. She was meeting her friend and they were going to shop and work out.

Then when I was done running around but neaqr to the mall, I called her and told her I could give her a ride. She said no Im waiting with my friend for the bus that she is taking. Then, after her friend tok her bus, to a town over 30 miles away, she called HUSBAND-DADDY CAKES to pick her up and bring her home. Shes gotten pretty professional level at wrapping him and mom around her little fingers, and he asked me because he had a few drinks. So, I rebelled and told him "tell her to walk its 30 mins or less, she had her chance with me already..." So he did, and then I felt bad and softened up, and went to get her, as she was half way home and her legs were cramping up from her work out because she NEVER does anything...

So, never again...!

Rags's picture

These are not innocent minor children. All of them, DH, TT, FF, and even PS are toxic, failed, manipulative, toxic adults. Or in PS case, a semi-proto adult who has earned having her nose rubbed in her toxic crap, and to live adult consequences for her last 42 wks as a minor.

Next time, let her hobble home for how every hours it takes her to finish the 30minute walk.

smh

Nea

TrueNorth77's picture

That would have been a life lesson if she walked all the way back. When someone is offering to do you a favor, you are on THEIR timeline, not yours. And everyone isn't just available at the drop of a hat. I bet next time she would put more thought into it!

Rags's picture

Does SDPS actually put much thought into anything other than manipulating others into delivering on her instant gratification desires?

SD's history does not indicate to me that she is much of a thinker beyond that.